Why are Americans so afraid of 2nd and 3rd world immigrants?

Your statements are just simply false. The IRS does not, in fact, require citizen or resident documentation for filing of taxes. Many undocumented workers do pay taxes. Thats part of what an ITIN is for. In many cases, any business paying in checks actually means that undocumented workers are likely overpaying in taxes because they are generally afraid of taking the standard deduction, despite the fact that they are legally entitled to do so, without fear of deportation.

Your anecdote means little in the face of facts.

@thegerg: I'm pretty sure I already said that they do indeed pay sales tax. How can you get around paying that?

As for property tax on cars... They have a couple legal immigrants who have their drivers licenses and then all the illegals chip in and buy a old run down school bus. That's what the illegals here do, I don't know anything about your illegals.

@Xaosll Your little comment on this would have made me give up on this argument, but there is one word that you chose. You are saying that in many cases, any business paying in checks actually means that, and so on... So are you saying that there are those who do not pay? If not, then why do you have the word "many" right there before cases?

Yes, there are business that employ workers that do not pay taxes, but that's hardly exclusive to undocumented workers. Its even surprisingly common in restaurant, nail/hair salons, and other cash and tip-based businesses for workers to underreport their earnings even if they pay employees in checks. I'll even be willing to concede the probability that undocumented workers comprise of a higher percentage of tax evaders than documented workers (per capita). I am, however, unconvinced that its anywhere near as big of a problem as people think it is.

It's not just Americans. Here in Canada we let many 2nd and third world people into our country and it often times hurts our nation and current citizens far more then it helps the over all economy. For one you get large groups of people who segregate themselves from the current populace, refusing to integrate and change to their new surroundings and society, leading to segregation of cities and their different nationalities/religious groups. As shown in countries like Sweden and France, or Greece. Slums unsafe for people who are born citizens pop up, jobs get lost for citizens born within the country often times do to the fact the people from 2nd and 3rd world countries will work for a far lower wages then what is often given in that chosen field. This has the effect of making it far harder for citizens born within the country to make a living by either making it hard to find a job or hard to live off the now lower wage due to immigrant workers.

I am 100% against immigration from such countries unless you have a skill set or diploma, that is actually something of worth. Doctors, engineers etc.. Currently we hand immigrants $30,000 to start businesses and a life here. That money could have gone to a person born here with a family all ready here instead of to some guy who will ship most of his money back to some shit hole country. I like my country the way it is and I don't think we need to be bringing in people who have little to offer outside of I can do your dirty work for cheaper, because jimmy down the street could do that job to save for his super expensive schooling rather then Ahkmar from Kabul who will send it back to his mother..

The world is also in a massive transitional phase due to climate change and this country is one of the best preserved and bringing more people from places that aren't even politically or socially up to par with our standards only lessons how many resources we have as a nation and the health of those natural systems. So i'd rather we not let them in and I'm all for closing the gates unless you have something of worth for us as a nation.

@ribstaylor1

While i can't speak directly about Canada, so i could be wrong, but your statements echo almost every fallacious and hyperbolic argument that can possibly be made.

There isn't a single, serious economist in the world that believes that immigration is a bad thing for a country's economy. You can make arguments and debates about the negative impacts of illegal immigration, but over all, immigration, legal or otherwise, tends to have a positive effect on the economy.

Immigrants that stick together generally form expatriate communities. This is super common regardless of legal or illegal immigration. This just sounds like anti-immigration rhetoric rather than anti-illegal immigration.

Illegal immigrants do not take jobs from citizens. Those jobs aren't "lost" to citizens. People earn jobs. An employer decided to give a job to someone, who may or may not be an illegal immigrant. And while there's an argument to be made that it may depress wages in a region, you are still generally talking about unskilled or low-skilled jobs. These are jobs that would generally have a higher supply of people than their demand regardless of legal or illegal immigrants. But i suppose its easier to make them out to be the boogeymen than to face the larger issue.

While i have no idea about such loan options, i can say with confidence, that there are far more citizens and legal residents taking advantage of government benefits, services, and welfare than illegal immigrants. Its a cost, sure, but i'm doubtful its anywhere near as costly as you might think it is.

Sending money back home is called "remittance." And once you earn money, you can do whatever the hell you want with it, including sending it back home. This argument doesn't even make much sense since this still feeds into the economic aggregate demand and it, generally, causes more problems back at their home country than it does in the original one.

Frankly, it just sounds like you have xenophobia.

Some immigrants are terrorists and terrorists kill people.

it is mainly just a system of racial profiling at its best

There are a lot of reasons: Language, culture, religion, way of life, crime, entering the country illegally, etc, etc.

Personally, I don't see an issue with immigration as long as they attempt to learn the language. As for crime, citizens and non-citizens commit both commit crimes so it's ridiculous to assume that one group of people will commit crimes at a higher rate. As for illegal immigration, our immigration system is messed up. Forget the fact we have Hispanics jumping the border but rather look at the people waiting 10+ years to become citizens or better yet, look at the Afghan and Iraqi translators who served the US military and yet despite attempts to become citizens are stonewalled and rejected. I'm not saying that it's okay to illegally immigrate, but our immigration system needs a complete overhual.

My two cents.

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They take away jobs from people already here. We don't have enough jobs for the people already living here. It is unfair that I can't even get a job at a fast food place or retail store because they are all taken. I have a 1000 people on a waiting list ahead of me for a chance at a job. I will be waiting years unless I luck out/beg someone to give me something.

People don't want jobs taken away, or services or people immigrating illegally. They don't want wages to drop or uneducated people to enter the country.

You already knew this, so why ask?

Americans are mostly afraid of Mexicans and Latinos when it comes to foreigners. Racially they're considered "white" by government race statistic gathering purposes even though they have more American indigenous racial qualities than those the government considers Native Americans.

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I am not less qualified. I am just as qualified as any other person. The problem is Canada would rather hire immigrants than people in it's own country. I am too dumb to go to college or to get into a trade. My only option is retail/fast food/cleaning or some other no skilled job. However I cannot get one when we have so many immigrants coming in and stealing all the low wage jobs.

The worst part is Canada claims no one is applying for these jobs and they have to attract immigrants to fill the positions. Which is absolute BS. All this does is screw people like me over. I just want a low wage job to make enough money to survive, but I can't even get that.

This ironically forces me to get welfare when I would much rather be working and contributing to society. Oh well. All I can do is keep on trying and handing out those resumes and hopefully something sticks.

What part of Canada do you live in? Our immigration system is even more strict than the American one - we're only lenient to people seeking to obtain refugee status. Everyone else who is let in is either a skilled worker or a young family.

afraid? more diversity is never a bad thing. Bring 'em on in.

it's universal human nature to distrust those that are not like you

Who beyond the nutjobs is scared of immigration?

Xenophobia is a common thing in many countries. It's nothing new. There are a multitude of reasons people may have. Assumptions that they're going to take advantage of the system, take jerbs, and be violent to name a few. It doesn't even matter if someone comes here legally; they can still face discrimination.

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We always have been. Look at how we treated the Chinese, Irish, and Germans back in the 1800s.

Really, the only Americans that are afraid are the blue collar, low-skilled labor types. The rest are either racists or foolishly believe that immigration is bad for them somehow.

You try living in a country in which your situation is so desperate that you would risk your life to get out and make a better life for yourself and then utter this ridiculous sentiment. Do you really think they care that they're entering and living illegally in the country?