In my country the liberals are to the right but in US they are to the left? And I always though Republicans were more liberal in economic questions since they want more free market.
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because they wish to liberate you from you money and choices, duh! for some reason liberal/conservative line is drawn purely on social stance and not on economic in the states. "i am a proud conservative" in the states means you are glad you live by biblical norms where "i am a proud liberal" would mean you are for gay marriage and giving special treatment to subsets of the population with affirmative action styIe laws. both parties are the same on the economic front in the US, they both wish to grant their special interests more free money taken from their constituents.In my country the liberals are to the right but in US they are to the left? And I always though Republicans were more liberal in economic questions since they want more free market.
Cow4ever
[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]Sweden. And all of Europe pretty muchIn what country are liberals considered right wing???
Cow4ever
I'm in Europe and when i hear the word liberal i think left leaning. WTF!?
Sweden. And all of Europe pretty much[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]
In what country are liberals considered right wing???
Ilovegames1992
I'm in Europe and when i hear the word liberal i think left leaning. WTF!?
i thought you lived on one of those little islands around europe, one of those crazy places that likes to stick random "u"s into wordsSweden. And all of Europe pretty much[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]
In what country are liberals considered right wing???
Ilovegames1992
I'm in Europe and when i hear the word liberal i think left leaning. WTF!?
In what way does left leaning makes you liberal? They want to restrict freedom more than anyone.[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"][QUOTE="Cow4ever"] Sweden. And all of Europe pretty muchCow4ever
I'm in Europe and when i hear the word liberal i think left leaning. WTF!?
In what way does left leaning makes you liberal? They want to restrict freedom more than anyone.The Liberal Democrats over here dont?
In what way does left leaning makes you liberal? They want to restrict freedom more than anyone.[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]
I'm in Europe and when i hear the word liberal i think left leaning. WTF!?
Ilovegames1992
The Liberal Democrats over here dont?
There are no democrats here... I'm talking about economically liberal groups like the FDP of Germany for example.Sweden. And all of Europe pretty much[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]
In what country are liberals considered right wing???
Ilovegames1992
I'm in Europe and when i hear the word liberal i think left leaning. WTF!?
In economics liberal refers to economists such as Adam Smith and David Ricardo, and neo-liberal to ones such as Milton Friedman and Alan Greenspan.
In economics liberal refers to economists such as Adam Smith and David Ricardo, and neo-liberal to ones such as Milton Friedman and Alan Greenspan.
theone86
I thought Milton Friedman was referred to as a classic-liberal?
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In economics liberal refers to economists such as Adam Smith and David Ricardo, and neo-liberal to ones such as Milton Friedman and Alan Greenspan.
airshocker
I thought Milton Friedman was referred to as a ****c-liberal?
depends on his age, his views changed quite a bit over his lifetime.Liberal in the United States from the founding of the country until the early 1900s meant Classical Liberal. The 'progressive' democrats hijacked the term.
Classical liberals in the U.S. renamed themselves libertarian.
So if you read an American history book prior to the early 1900s where someone describes themselves as 'liberal' they mean classical liberal or libertarian.
The horrid putrid stinking mess that is American politics has distorted the meaning of words like conservative and liberal into infantile slanders that really mean us and them, dumb and dumber and what not. This results in Americans throwing around the world liberal (as an example)as both a badge of honour and a slur, not to mention as a catchall for all sorts of things which are not liberal. The same can be said for pretty much any politically charged word in American...aka the land where political reason is an oxymoron.
There are a few Dems in government that are moderate or conservative, but that's rare. Conservative Reps care about things like the Constitution, patriotism, family, and the military.topsemag55
So Dems are unpatriotic and don't care about family? :roll:
Anyway, what does this response have to do with the thread anyway?
[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]Sweden. And all of Europe pretty much No. Liberal parties are considered left wing. Unless your political party is called "Liberal Party" and it is actually a conservative one, liberals are lefties...In what country are liberals considered right wing???
Cow4ever
You can't really compare political spectrums across different countries all the time because each place has a different scope of spectrums. For example here in Canada our Liberal party is considered to be the centrist party, despite the fact that it is clearly more left-leaning than the Democratic Party of the US which is considered to be left-wing. And our social democratic party (NDP) is considered to be merely centre-left despite the fact that such a party in the US would be branded the Soviet Communist Party.
Most of the confusion comes from the fact that free-market capitalist economics are liberal ideas that have been adopted across the spectrum.
[QUOTE="topsemag55"]There are a few Dems in government that are moderate or conservative, but that's rare. Conservative Reps care about things like the Constitution, patriotism, family, and the military.GreySeal9
So Dems are unpatriotic and don't care about family? :roll:
Anyway, what does this response have to do with the thread anyway?
Liberals believe in satanic rituals, baby eating and healthcare. Those monsters! On topic and less jokingly though: Democrats are referred to as liberals because they're more left leaning than the Republicans (not a hard feat to achieve at the moment mind you), it's pretty much a relativistic thing. Also Liberal means left wing the world over, I have family in Sweden and I have no idea where you're getting that liberal = right wing thing from.[QUOTE="GreySeal9"][QUOTE="topsemag55"]There are a few Dems in government that are moderate or conservative, but that's rare. Conservative Reps care about things like the Constitution, patriotism, family, and the military.Ace6301
So Dems are unpatriotic and don't care about family? :roll:
Anyway, what does this response have to do with the thread anyway?
Liberals believe in satanic rituals, baby eating and healthcare. Those monsters! On topic and less jokingly though: Democrats are referred to as liberals because they're more left leaning than the Republicans (not a hard feat to achieve at the moment mind you), it's pretty much a relativistic thing. Also Liberal means left wing the world over, I have family in Sweden and I have no idea where you're getting that liberal = right wing thing from. Where I live political liberalism indicates a strong orientation towards capitalism and individualism, as well.[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]Liberals believe in satanic rituals, baby eating and healthcare. Those monsters! On topic and less jokingly though: Democrats are referred to as liberals because they're more left leaning than the Republicans (not a hard feat to achieve at the moment mind you), it's pretty much a relativistic thing. Also Liberal means left wing the world over, I have family in Sweden and I have no idea where you're getting that liberal = right wing thing from. Where I live political liberalism indicates a strong orientation towards capitalism and individualism, as well. where do you live?So Dems are unpatriotic and don't care about family? :roll:
Anyway, what does this response have to do with the thread anyway?
grape_of_wrath
Where I live political liberalism indicates a strong orientation towards capitalism and individualism, as well. where do you live? Israel.[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] Liberals believe in satanic rituals, baby eating and healthcare. Those monsters! On topic and less jokingly though: Democrats are referred to as liberals because they're more left leaning than the Republicans (not a hard feat to achieve at the moment mind you), it's pretty much a relativistic thing. Also Liberal means left wing the world over, I have family in Sweden and I have no idea where you're getting that liberal = right wing thing from.surrealnumber5
Amen brother. There is no more reason or compromise in this country anymore, as we have become a nation of spoiled children, Who scream and shout when they can't have everything the exact way they want it. Anyone who labels themselves as a liberal or a conservative is a tool who is incapable of thinking for themselves. We are in a very dark age right now in the USA, I truly believe we do not have much longer to turn it around. Our bickering and failure to compromise and deal with our problems in a rational manner will end our reign as a world class superpower, if it hasn't alreadyThe horrid putrid stinking mess that is American politics has distorted the meaning of words like conservative and liberal into infantile slanders that really mean us and them, dumb and dumber and what not. This results in Americans throwing around the world liberal (as an example)as both a badge of honour and a slur, not to mention as a catchall for all sorts of things which are not liberal. The same can be said for pretty much any politically charged word in American...aka the land where political reason is an oxymoron.
SUD123456
The words "Democrat" and "liberal" are not synonymous, since there are conservative Democrats. Likewise, the terms "conservative" and "Republican" are not synonymous. There are liberal Republicans.
I'm a conservative, moderate Republican. I agree with Republicans on most issues but with the Democrats on some.
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