Why are humans so barbaric?

I watch the news every day and see acts that humans have commited that makes you wonder WTF? From violence to greed to religion, it seems that we humans may actually be animals like the evolution theory supports, and I'm a man of faith (and I won't state which faith because it's not about faith wars) but wonder if we as humans are doomed and will end up exterminating one another off the face of the globe.

Why do I see a thread talking about how "bad" or barbarichumans are every time I come to OT?

IDK, people are pretty horrible. Just watch Hotel Rwana, or Schindlers List. The s*** makes no damn sense.
What ever happened to the Golden Rule?
THEDJXL

...I see that gif. in your sig everywhere, whats it from lol?

Why do I see a thread talking about how "bad" or barbarichumans are every time I come to OT?

Shrapnel99

You need to upgrade your ESP.

It's human nature. That's just how we are. We used to be peaceful and didn't take much from the Earth and kept to ourselves. But as numbers grew, we needed more and more and more. And humans just became, like you said, barbaric.nintendorocks

Uh, when? Unless you are talking about in the bible in the garden of Eden, man has always been violent.

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Why do I see a thread talking about how "bad" or barbarichumans are every time I come to OT?

guynamedbilly

You need to upgrade your ESP.

That was completely irrelevant...It didn't even use the word barbaric :P

Why do I see a thread talking about how "bad" or barbarichumans are every time I come to OT?

Shrapnel99

It's just another form of "nonconformism" or more appropriately, "anti-conformormism." Which is always popular among the younger crowd, since it's a form of rebellion.

We are barbaric because we are humans. Humans sucklycrof

Yea, your right :(

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Why do I see a thread talking about how "bad" or barbarichumans are every time I come to OT?

MrGeezer

It's just another form of "nonconformism" or more appropriately, "anti-conformormism." Which is always popular among the younger crowd, since it's a form of rebellion.

Well said (although I'm young and don't do that :P )

[QUOTE="THEDJXL"]IDK, people are pretty horrible. Just watch Hotel Rwana, or Schindlers List. The s*** makes no damn sense.
What ever happened to the Golden Rule?
Shrapnel99

...I see that gif. in your sig everywhere, whats it from lol?

Only those who seek the truth (pm me) will know...

It's human nature. That's just how we are. We used to be peaceful and didn't take much from the Earth and kept to ourselves. But as numbers grew, we needed more and more and more. And humans just became, like you said, barbaric.nintendorocks

Bull. If you think we weren't killing off opposing tribes when we were only isolated tribes consisting of only a few hundred people, you're out of your mind.

Hell, even TODAY there are still small tribes of "indigenous peoples" who battle each other. Not everyone lives in cities and drives cars. There are still small tribes who live out in the middle of the jungle, and have been fighting the tiny tribe on the other side of the mountain for the last 200 years.

[QUOTE="nintendorocks"]It's human nature. That's just how we are. We used to be peaceful and didn't take much from the Earth and kept to ourselves. But as numbers grew, we needed more and more and more. And humans just became, like you said, barbaric.guynamedbilly

Uh, when? Unless you are talking about in the bible in the garden of Eden, man has always been violent.

Cain killed Abel in the garden of Eden FYI ..

[QUOTE="Shrapnel99"]

Why do I see a thread talking about how "bad" or barbarichumans are every time I come to OT?

MrGeezer

It's just another form of "nonconformism" or more appropriately, "anti-conformormism." Which is always popular among the younger crowd, since it's a form of rebellion.

Nonconformism is the refusal to conform to common standards, conventions, rules, customs, traditions, norms or laws.

Do you mean that many young people post threads about this topic because of that or that humans are violent because younger people seem to always have a form of rebellion?

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Shrapnel99"]

Why do I see a thread talking about how "bad" or barbarichumans are every time I come to OT?

jt222_us

It's just another form of "nonconformism" or more appropriately, "anti-conformormism." Which is always popular among the younger crowd, since it's a form of rebellion.

Nonconformism is the refusal to conform to common standards, conventions, rules, customs, traditions, norms or laws.

Do you mean that many young people post threads about this topic because of that or that humans are violent because younger people seem to always have a form of rebellion?

I believe he means choice one. But then again, I wouldn't know *looks around suspiciously*

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[QUOTE="nintendorocks"]It's human nature. That's just how we are. We used to be peaceful and didn't take much from the Earth and kept to ourselves. But as numbers grew, we needed more and more and more. And humans just became, like you said, barbaric.DanBrim1

Cain killed Abel in the garden of Eden FWI ..

Yea, exactly. Except I believe they were kicked out of the garden by then.

Anyway the point is humanity regardless of where you believe it originated was founded upon violence. At least, the religions that I know of all have violence in their origin.

If religion isn't your bag, then surely you believe that as man advanced along the evolutionary chain he had to fight off others who would do him harm.

Now, if you were to ask why the very existence of the universe is based upon violence, then you'd have a more substantial point. It's a dog eat dog world and a star eat planet universe. I mean, the big dipper man, the big dipper.

[QUOTE="jt222_us"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Shrapnel99"]

Why do I see a thread talking about how "bad" or barbarichumans are every time I come to OT?

Shrapnel99

It's just another form of "nonconformism" or more appropriately, "anti-conformormism." Which is always popular among the younger crowd, since it's a form of rebellion.

Nonconformism is the refusal to conform to common standards, conventions, rules, customs, traditions, norms or laws.

Do you mean that many young people post threads about this topic because of that or that humans are violent because younger people seem to always have a form of rebellion?

I believe he means choice one. But then again, I wouldn't know *looks around suspiciously*

yeah, sorry for the long quote tree. the reason i was wondering is because if it's choice one and that it's common to post a thread like this, then doesn't that go against the "refusal to conform to common standards"?

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[QUOTE="nintendorocks"]It's human nature. That's just how we are. We used to be peaceful and didn't take much from the Earth and kept to ourselves. But as numbers grew, we needed more and more and more. And humans just became, like you said, barbaric.guynamedbilly

Cain killed Abel in the garden of Eden FWI ..

Yea, exactly. Except I believe they were kicked out of the garden by then.

Anyway the point is humanity regardless of where you believe it originated was founded upon violence. At least, the religions that I know of all have violence in their origin.

If religion isn't your bag, then surely you believe that as man advanced along the evolutionary chain he had to fight off others who would do him harm.

Now, if you were to ask why the very existence of the universe is based upon violence, then you'd have a more substantial point. It's a dog eat dog world and a star eat planet universe. I mean, the big dipper man, the big dipper.

You are right they had the boot out of Eden by the time he killed Abel..It still goes to show that man will kill given any reason and that we as a specices have never lived without it..

We haven't discovered our "destiny" yet. We still need time to learn. Optimus Prime puts it best...

Ironhide: Why are we fighting to save the humans? They're primitive, a violent race.
Optimus Prime: Were we so different? They are a young species; they have much to learn... but I've seen goodness in them. Freedom is the right of all sentient beings...

At least they got Prime's character bang on.

Anyways... we are barbaric because we are still a young group of animals. We have yet to learn that violence is not the answer.

[QUOTE="nintendorocks"]It's human nature. That's just how we are. We used to be peaceful and didn't take much from the Earth and kept to ourselves. But as numbers grew, we needed more and more and more. And humans just became, like you said, barbaric.MrGeezer

Bull. If you think we weren't killing off opposing tribes when we were only isolated tribes consisting of only a few hundred people, you're out of your mind.

Hell, even TODAY there are still small tribes of "indigenous peoples" who battle each other. Not everyone lives in cities and drives cars. There are still small tribes who live out in the middle of the jungle, and have been fighting the tiny tribe on the other side of the mountain for the last 200 years.

Also, for the most part, humans have NEVER tried to keep to themselves. And even when they have tried to keep to themselves, the primary reason was because they knew they were weak and didn't want to get killed.

When humans have (or think they have) the ability to defend themselves, they do NOT keep to themselves. I'm sure you'll deem this to be a bad example, but a lot of you people are probably still in high school, so it's a familiar example. When it's lunchtime, all you kids get thrown into a big cafeteria. Now, go to the cafeteria and look around. Look and see who is sitting by themselves. Almost without exception, they're going to be scared/unpopular/weak. The ONLY reason they avoid human contact is because they lack confidence.

Same applies on a larger scale. Chameleons are solitary animals. Spiders are solitary animals. Humans are NOT solitary animals. We are social animals. We need human interaction, we rely on human interaction. If you are the leader of a tiny tribe, and you encounter another tiny tribe, the ONLY reason you'll run away is if you think they're gonna kick your asses. If you have any confidence, you'll either flat-out annihilate them or try to barter with them for useful goods. Because kepp in mind that when you're living in a small tribe consisting of 100 people, what's going to happen if you DON'T interact with other tribes? You end up completely losing any kind of genetic diversity. After only a few generations, everyone in the tribe is at least everyone else's first cousin. And to say nothing of the fact that the whole tribe is now basically committe=ing incest and we're getting a larger incidence of birth defects, the smallest disease is gonna wipe out the entire ****ing tribe because there is no genetic diversity within the tribe.

The answer to this question is too complex to be answered on a forum adequately.cjdaweasel

Really? I just thought it was that Man is yet to be able to rise above his animialist instinct..

[QUOTE="Shrapnel99"][QUOTE="jt222_us"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Shrapnel99"]

Why do I see a thread talking about how "bad" or barbarichumans are every time I come to OT?

jt222_us

It's just another form of "nonconformism" or more appropriately, "anti-conformormism." Which is always popular among the younger crowd, since it's a form of rebellion.

Nonconformism is the refusal to conform to common standards, conventions, rules, customs, traditions, norms or laws.

Do you mean that many young people post threads about this topic because of that or that humans are violent because younger people seem to always have a form of rebellion?

I believe he means choice one. But then again, I wouldn't know *looks around suspiciously*

yeah, sorry for the long quote tree. the reason i was wondering is because if it's choice one and that it's common to post a thread like this, then doesn't that go against the "refusal to conform to common standards"?

Absolutely.

The thing is, the people who make these sorts of threads usually don't think that far ahead.

Its in our nature to destroy ourselves so yes, WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!!!:cry:tzar3

Its in our nature to kill each other

Its in our nature to kill, kill, kill!!!!

.... yeah....

We haven't discovered our "destiny" yet. We still need time to learn. Optimus Prime puts it best...

Ironhide: Why are we fighting to save the humans? They're primitive, a violent race.
Optimus Prime: Were we so different? They are a young species; they have much to learn... but I've seen goodness in them. Freedom is the right of all sentient beings...

At least they got Prime's character bang on.

Anyways... we are barbaric because we are still a young group of animals. We have yet to learn that violence is not the answer.

foxhound_fox

Except that technically, for the VAST majority of our time on earth, violence HAS been the answer.

As distasteful as it is, the only reason we are as awesome as we are now (quite possibly the only reason you or I or anyone even are ALIVE) is BECAUSE we've been killing each other for so freaking long.

Really, think about it. I'm not saying that we should act like that now, but violence has DEFINITELY worked for us in the past. It's a significant part of the reason why our species still exists.

EDIT: My mistake. Instead of saying "the only reason" (because our capacity for violence is NOT our only attribute), I meant to say "violence is a crucial reason".

My point still stands though. Without our willingness to kill, we would be dead as dirt. However, I am sorry if I implied that our other lerss-violent traits are insignificant.

[QUOTE="jt222_us"][QUOTE="Shrapnel99"][QUOTE="jt222_us"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Shrapnel99"]

Why do I see a thread talking about how "bad" or barbarichumans are every time I come to OT?

MrGeezer

It's just another form of "nonconformism" or more appropriately, "anti-conformormism." Which is always popular among the younger crowd, since it's a form of rebellion.

Nonconformism is the refusal to conform to common standards, conventions, rules, customs, traditions, norms or laws.

Do you mean that many young people post threads about this topic because of that or that humans are violent because younger people seem to always have a form of rebellion?

I believe he means choice one. But then again, I wouldn't know *looks around suspiciously*

yeah, sorry for the long quote tree. the reason i was wondering is because if it's choice one and that it's common to post a thread like this, then doesn't that go against the "refusal to conform to common standards"?

Absolutely.

The thing is, the people who make these sorts of threads usually don't think that far ahead.

Dave Chappelle says "WWWWhhhhaaaat?"

What Gamespot user ever thinks far ahead? Thinking far ahead is reserved for school. It's fun to post topics like this on Gamespot because you can get an answer really quick from Joe Blow who lives anywhere in the world and will tell you what he or she truly thinks.

The fact that humans treat other races as a separate species almost contributes to this problem.

If everyone just stopped seeing each other as black, white, hispanic, asian whatever.....and instead just be proud that all of us are the same human being, then this world would be a better place.

[QUOTE="tzar3"]Its in our nature to destroy ourselves so yes, WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!!!:cry:Def_Jef88

Its in our nature to kill each other

Its in our nature to kill, kill, kill!!!!

.... yeah....

Yup, mass murders, rapist, sadist all of them, we human beings are just evil, for that, I shall comit suicide by hitting a rock on my head until I die, glorious way of dying.:cry:

you know i'd like to know the same thing, but for all the animals that kill their own kind. Like bears, lions, and hippos. Why cant they just get along?!!? :cry:

Why is it emo type people can't understand that killing is part of life? Ohhh i just read the TC's post... you know what WE ARE ANIMALS... but either way that doesn't mean it is impossible that god created us. Maybe he just gave us the ability to evolve into humans, and not created humans directly? like planting a seed and letting it grow

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[QUOTE="tzar3"]Its in our nature to destroy ourselves so yes, WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!!!:cry:tzar3

Its in our nature to kill each other

Its in our nature to kill, kill, kill!!!!

.... yeah....

Yup, mass murders, rapist, sadist all of them, we human beings are just evil, for that, I shall comit suicide by hitting a rock on my head until I die, glorious way of dying.:cry:

Except that technically, for the VAST majority of our time on earth, violence HAS been the answer.

As distasteful as it is, the only reason we are as awesome as we are now (quite possibly the only reason you or I or anyone even are ALIVE) is BECAUSE we've been killing each other for so freaking long.

Really, think about it. I'm not saying that we should act like that now, but violence has DEFINITELY worked for us in the past. It's a significant part of the reason why our species still exists.

MrGeezer

[QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]

[QUOTE="tzar3"]Its in our nature to destroy ourselves so yes, WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!!!:cry:Def_Jef88

Its in our nature to kill each other

Its in our nature to kill, kill, kill!!!!

.... yeah....

Yup, mass murders, rapist, sadist all of them, we human beings are just evil, for that, I shall comit suicide by hitting a rock on my head until I die, glorious way of dying.:cry:

I will if you promise to eat my leaking brain matter and juices from my bashed skull.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

We haven't discovered our "destiny" yet. We still need time to learn. Optimus Prime puts it best...

Ironhide: Why are we fighting to save the humans? They're primitive, a violent race.
Optimus Prime: Were we so different? They are a young species; they have much to learn... but I've seen goodness in them. Freedom is the right of all sentient beings...

At least they got Prime's character bang on.

Anyways... we are barbaric because we are still a young group of animals. We have yet to learn that violence is not the answer.

MrGeezer

Except that technically, for the VAST majority of our time on earth, violence HAS been the answer.

As distasteful as it is, the only reason we are as awesome as we are now (quite possibly the only reason you or I or anyone even are ALIVE) is BECAUSE we've been killing each other for so freaking long.

Really, think about it. I'm not saying that we should act like that now, but violence has DEFINITELY worked for us in the past. It's a significant part of the reason why our species still exists.

What u sayin son?
I'll break yo crackhead back. Word is bond.
You don't want no problems.
*Loads Gun*

[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]

[QUOTE="tzar3"]Its in our nature to destroy ourselves so yes, WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!!!:cry:tzar3

Its in our nature to kill each other

Its in our nature to kill, kill, kill!!!!

.... yeah....

Yup, mass murders, rapist, sadist all of them, we human beings are just evil, for that, I shall comit suicide by hitting a rock on my head until I die, glorious way of dying.:cry:

I will if you promise to eat my leaking brain matter and juices from my bashed skull.

[QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]

[QUOTE="tzar3"]Its in our nature to destroy ourselves so yes, WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!!!:cry:Def_Jef88

Its in our nature to kill each other

Its in our nature to kill, kill, kill!!!!

.... yeah....

Yup, mass murders, rapist, sadist all of them, we human beings are just evil, for that, I shall comit suicide by hitting a rock on my head until I die, glorious way of dying.:cry:

I will if you promise to eat my leaking brain matter and juices from my bashed skull.

You must also eat hobo feces as well. Then I'll take pics.

[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]

[QUOTE="tzar3"]Its in our nature to destroy ourselves so yes, WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!!!:cry:tzar3

Its in our nature to kill each other

Its in our nature to kill, kill, kill!!!!

.... yeah....

Yup, mass murders, rapist, sadist all of them, we human beings are just evil, for that, I shall comit suicide by hitting a rock on my head until I die, glorious way of dying.:cry:

I will if you promise to eat my leaking brain matter and juices from my bashed skull.

You must also eat hobo feces as well. Then I'll take pics.

He ain't gonna be eatin my poop.
Screw you.

We are violent and warlike because that is the way that the God(s) made us. We fight and fight and perfect the art of war so when the Gods return they will unleash us onto the galaxy and the universe. Humanities destiny is to become the fist of the gods. We will become Zues's thunderbolts and smte the aliens, the people on other planets that are under the domain of different gods.

I swear there was nothing special about those brownies.

[QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]

[QUOTE="tzar3"]Its in our nature to destroy ourselves so yes, WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!!!:cry:THEDJXL

Its in our nature to kill each other

Its in our nature to kill, kill, kill!!!!

.... yeah....

Yup, mass murders, rapist, sadist all of them, we human beings are just evil, for that, I shall comit suicide by hitting a rock on my head until I die, glorious way of dying.:cry:

I will if you promise to eat my leaking brain matter and juices from my bashed skull.

You must also eat hobo feces as well. Then I'll take pics.

He ain't gonna be eatin my poop.
Screw you.

Then who will huh? Someones gotta do it.

[QUOTE="THEDJXL"][QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]

[QUOTE="tzar3"]Its in our nature to destroy ourselves so yes, WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!!!:cry:tzar3

Its in our nature to kill each other

Its in our nature to kill, kill, kill!!!!

.... yeah....

Yup, mass murders, rapist, sadist all of them, we human beings are just evil, for that, I shall comit suicide by hitting a rock on my head until I die, glorious way of dying.:cry:

I will if you promise to eat my leaking brain matter and juices from my bashed skull.

You must also eat hobo feces as well. Then I'll take pics.

He ain't gonna be eatin my poop.
Screw you.

Then who will huh? Someones gotta do it.

Fine... Meet me at my dumpster. Please just blur out the face on the pic.