why are some women so feminist?

Why are some reason so feminist? Women are just as good at men, and we can wear clothes exactly like them and do manual labor just like them. And, we are being oppressed, because men look at us in "that way" Ok, sure some have valid arguments, like being able to vote, but some even take it to the extreme that if they were married and had a son they would get mad and pretend he was her daughter by dressing him up (how gross, why would anyone do that?)

do manual labor just like them.

wookieeassassin

that i would disagree on except in the most extreme cases, like female body builders who dope up on testosterone.

had a son they would get mad and pretend he was her daughter by dressing him up (how gross, why would anyone do that?)

wookieeassassin

i'd say that's due to some kind of mental illness, seriously :|

If you want equality, why do you still have maternity leave from work?blooddemon666

somehow i don't think dressing your son up in stereotypically female clothing and pretending he's a girlhas anything to do w/ being a feminist.

now if you're saying the woman allows the son to wear stereotypically female clothing because she doesn't want him pigeonholed, then i think that's something else entirely

at any rate, not all women are feminists, and not all feminists are bad. just like every guy isn't a chauvanistic pig, or at least i don't think they all are

If you want equality, why do you still have maternity leave from work?blooddemon666

guys can get paternity leaves, at least at some jobs they can

Why are some reason so feminist? Women are just as good at men, and we can wear clothes exactly like them and do manual labor just like them. And, we are being oppressed, because men look at us in "that way" Ok, sure some have valid arguments, like being able to vote, but some even take it to the extreme that if they were married and had a son they would get mad and pretend he was her daughter by dressing him up (how gross, why would anyone do that?)

wookieeassassin

Can someone translate this please?

some even take it to the extreme that if they were married and had a son they would get mad and pretend he was her daughter by dressing him up (how gross, why would anyone do that?)

wookieeassassin

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some even take it to the extreme that if they were married and had a son they would get mad and pretend he was her daughter by dressing him up (how gross, why would anyone do that?)

xaos

i think he's including insane and mentally unstable women in that group. :)

I hate the feminists that think they are better then men. If all women got "equality", there would be way too many sexual harassment cases, and they would want the old ways back.ThaStig

I know what you mean. They sometimes say they want equal rights, but act like they are better and deserve more.

Why are some reason so feminist? Women are just as good at men, and we can wear clothes exactly like them and do manual labor just like them. And, we are being oppressed, because men look at us in "that way" Ok, sure some have valid arguments, like being able to vote, but some even take it to the extreme that if they were married and had a son they would get mad and pretend he was her daughter by dressing him up (how gross, why would anyone do that?)

wookieeassassin

I consider myself a feminist but that's just not feminists you're talking about, you're talking about f-ed up women who hate men.

I agree that women don't have it as easy as men, but if you want to complain: move to the middle east where women there undergo genital mutilation and are forced to wear berquas, and if they even look at another man, they are executed.blooddemon666

Exactly. The feminists need to wake-up and realize that Islam - not American culture - is their enemy. That's the key to winning the war in my opinion - women. Same goes for the gays.

I agree that women don't have it as easy as men, but if you want to complain: move to the middle east where women there undergo genital mutilation and are forced to wear berquas, and if they even look at another man, they are executed.blooddemon666

Basically: "Never complain about anything ever, because it could always be worse." Oh yeah? Well it can also get better!

You bore me to death.

[QUOTE="blooddemon666"]I agree that women don't have it as easy as men, but if you want to complain: move to the middle east where women there undergo genital mutilation and are forced to wear berquas, and if they even look at another man, they are executed.nbtrap1212

Exactly. The feminists need to wake-up and realize that Islam - not American culture - is their enemy. That's the key to winning the war in my opinion - women. Same goes for the gays.

What do you know about feminism anyway?

If you want equality, why do you still have maternity leave from work?blooddemon666

Why are some reason so feminist? Women are just as good at men, and we can wear clothes exactly like them and do manual labor just like them. And, we are being oppressed, because men look at us in "that way" Ok, sure some have valid arguments, like being able to vote, but some even take it to the extreme that if they were married and had a son they would get mad and pretend he was her daughter by dressing him up (how gross, why would anyone do that?)

wookieeassassin

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[QUOTE="blooddemon666"]I agree that women don't have it as easy as men, but if you want to complain: move to the middle east where women there undergo genital mutilation and are forced to wear berquas, and if they even look at another man, they are executed.doubutsuteki

Exactly. The feminists need to wake-up and realize that Islam - not American culture - is their enemy. That's the key to winning the war in my opinion - women. Same goes for the gays.

What do you know about feminism anyway?

This is what I'm talking about. As if there were anything complicated about feminism...

[QUOTE="blooddemon666"]I agree that women don't have it as easy as men, but if you want to complain: move to the middle east where women there undergo genital mutilation and are forced to wear berquas, and if they even look at another man, they are executed.doubutsuteki

Basically: "Never complain about anything ever, because it could always be worse." Oh yeah? Well it can also get better!

You bore me to death.

:lol::lol::lol:

Well, that's one way of looking at things...

Basically: "Never complain about anything ever, because it could always be worse." Oh yeah? Well it can also get better!You bore me to death.doubutsuteki

If you're such a feminist, why don't you go out and actually change something, instead of just complaining.
pointing out grievances is one thing, but actually going about trying to rectify them, completely different.

and it seems to me that you're just complaining.

I agree that women don't have it as easy as men, but if you want to complain: move to the middle east where women there undergo genital mutilation and are forced to wear berquas, and if they even look at another man, they are executed.blooddemon666

[QUOTE="blooddemon666"]I agree that women don't have it as easy as men, but if you want to complain: move to the middle east where women there undergo genital mutilation and are forced to wear berquas, and if they even look at another man, they are executed.nintendo_fan675

I believe that was just hyperbole.

[QUOTE="doubutsuteki"]Basically: "Never complain about anything ever, because it could always be worse." Oh yeah? Well it can also get better!You bore me to death.blooddemon666

If you're such a feminist, why don't you go out and actually change something, instead of just complaining.
pointing out grievances is one thing, but actually going about trying to rectify them, completely different.

and it seems to me that you're just complaining.

I didn't complain.

One thing I can do on my own is to reply to posts like these - among other things. But no real change is going to happen as the result of the actions of just one person.

But no real change is going to happen as the result of the actions of just one person.doubutsuteki

And that's where you're wrong.

Example: Martin Luther King.

EDIT: more examples:

- Florence Nightingale
- Mother Teresa
- Mahatma Gandhi
- The Buddah

I didn't complain.

One thing I can do on my own is to reply to posts like these - among other things. But no real change is going to happen as the result of the actions of just one person.

doubutsuteki

there are activist groups out there that fight for these causes.

Why are some men sexist? Why are some people mean? Why are some people ignorant?DejaVu72

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[QUOTE="blooddemon666"]I agree that women don't have it as easy as men, but if you want to complain: move to the middle east where women there undergo genital mutilation and are forced to wear berquas, and if they even look at another man, they are executed.nbtrap1212

Exactly. The feminists need to wake-up and realize that Islam - not American culture - is their enemy. That's the key to winning the war in my opinion - women. Same goes for the gays.

What do you know about feminism anyway?

This is what I'm talking about. As if there were anything complicated about feminism...

Complicated? Well, not really, no. Unless you think it's complicated to unlearn things that society has forced and is trying to force down your throat. That said, there's a whole lot of analysis behind the theories of the oppression of women - especially if we're talking here about socialist feminism.

It doesn't have anything to do with cutting off men's penises. I know for sure I wouldn't consider myself a feminist if that was the case. (And I'm not shaving my armpits, chest hair etc. any time soon.)

It doesn't have anything to do with cutting off men's penises. I know for sure I wouldn't consider myself a feminist if that was the case. (And I'm not shaving my armpits, chest hair etc. any time soon.)

doubutsuteki

I'm lost.

The next time a man and a woman are in bed, and the hear something downstairs and think maybe someone has broken in the house, I say let the woman go check it out just to keep things fair and equal.Bubba-louiy

I'd be totally up for that :D. I'm not scared of a fight

[QUOTE="doubutsuteki"]But no real change is going to happen as the result of the actions of just one person.luke1889

And that's where you're wrong.

Example: Martin Luther King.

EDIT: more examples:

- Florence Nightingale
- Mother Teresa
- Mahatma Gandhi
- The Buddah

You might want to elaborate a bit if you want to explain your examples. I know that there are certain individuals who lead and inspire people, but in the end only the actions of the many can have a profound impact on society. That's not to say I think it's hopeless for just one person to make a change, but he or she has to organize him- or herself. I'm not organized currently but I sympathize with Worker's Power, which is an international socialist league. I'm not going to be the activist because someone tells me to - I fight for my own interests. I've been one before, today I lay low. The struggle is hard as it is sometimes, and we're people, not machines. One shouldn't give up though.

Activism is a whole lot about talking to people, writing, going to demos and so on - generally airing views, trying to recruit people to an organization and to showcase the strength of one's organization, both during times that we can and can't use direct action. Well, I am writing now, at this very moment. ;)

[QUOTE="doubutsuteki"]But no real change is going to happen as the result of the actions of just one person.luke1889

And that's where you're wrong.

Example: Martin Luther King.

EDIT: more examples:

- Florence Nightingale
- Mother Teresa
- Mahatma Gandhi
- The Buddah

It doesn't have anything to do with cutting off men's penises. I know for sure I wouldn't consider myself a feminist if that was the case. (And I'm not shaving my armpits, chest hair etc. any time soon.)

doubutsuteki

wait, are you a guy or girl??

b/c i wouldn't really consider any guy a 'feminist', just a 'feminist-supporter.' kindof like the straight allies for gays.

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[QUOTE="doubutsuteki"]But no real change is going to happen as the result of the actions of just one person.whos_next000

And that's where you're wrong.

Example: Martin Luther King.

EDIT: more examples:

- Florence Nightingale
- Mother Teresa
- Mahatma Gandhi
- The Buddah

Do you believe that we would have progressed this far without him?