Why can't most females ever be bothered to make the first move?

Not all, there are a few women who do make the first move but their a rare form. it seems like the majority expect a guy to approach them. Why can't a woman ever approach a guy and make an effort? seems like they just lean back and have all these expectations that its the guys job to approach them. If they are all about gender equality and who not it shouldn't even matter

Because girls dont have to.

A hot chick can have 10 guys in a bar competing for her. Its your job to stand out.

Chicks can get a guy in almost any situation. Guys cant. So you take initiative.

just cause....

[QUOTE="xLFTMx"]

Because girls dont have to.

A hot chick can have 10 guys in a bar competing for her. Its your job to stand out.

Chicks can get a guy in almost any situation. Guys cant. So you take initiative.

Hemmaroids

Trannys dont count.

Maybe chivalry isn't as dead as people think...

Maybe chivalry isn't as dead as people think...

Wii4Fun

Chivalrys not dead, but its sure as hell out of style.

We do, but it is not as often as the other way around, I guess. Some girls might like you, some don't. We are about as shy and you guys are when it comes to guys. I don't know why people think all girls wait for guys to ask them. Girls don't want to be embarrassed either when a guy rejects them. So that is why a lot of them don't even try.

We do, but it is not as often as the other way around, I guess. Some girls might like you, some don't. We are about as shy and you guys are when it comes to guys. I don't know why people think all girls wait for guys to ask them. Girls don't want to be embarrassed either when a guy reject them. So that is why a lot of them don't even try. MistressMinako

Not all of them wait, but the majority do. I know a girl who liked this guy in one of my college classes and every day she'd ramble on about how much she liked him and how she hoped that he'd ask her out soon. Needless to say he never even acknowledged her really and she didn't do anything. I've met a bunch of other girls like that who rather than work up the courage to approach a male just sit on their hands and wait to be approached

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]That's odd. Every GF I have ever had has made the first move. Girls buy me drinks at the bar quite often Girls usually ask me to dance first ...maybe TC's version of 'the truth' is not indicative of all females and their approach (or a lack there of) to menxaos

In my case, they usually do. It just so happens that the first move is away.Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]We do, but it is not as often as the other way around, I guess. Some girls might like you, some don't. We are about as shy and you guys are when it comes to guys. I don't know why people think all girls wait for guys to ask them. Girls don't want to be embarrassed either when a guy reject them. So that is why a lot of them don't even try. FrenchDynasty

Not all of them wait, but the majority do. I know a girl who liked this guy in one of my college classes and every day she'd ramble on about how much she liked him and how she hoped that he'd ask her out soon. Needless to say he never even acknowledged her really and she didn't do anything. I've met a bunch of other girls like that who rather than work up the courage to approach a male just sit on their hands and wait to be approached

In my case, they usually do. It just so happens that the first move is away.Engrish_Major

I giggled. :)

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]In my case, they usually do. It just so happens that the first move is away.Allicrombie

ITT Alii positions herself in the exact opposite direction of Engrish
[spoiler] with a club and chloroform in hand [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="rawsavon"]That's odd. Every GF I have ever had has made the first move. Girls buy me drinks at the bar quite often Girls usually ask me to dance first ...maybe TC's version of 'the truth' is not indicative of all females and their approach (or a lack there of) to menrawsavon

Lol! good one, There is no doubt that I am all man and have no problem with the womans 8)

I just don't understand this american dating culture, totally different in France :|

I'm going with prom with a girl that asked me this year. About the only time the girl has every made the first move on me.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="xaos"] My experience is approximately analogous to yoursFrenchDynasty

Lol! good one, There is no doubt that I am all man

I never said that you were a transsexual/transgendered person :?
...never even crossed my mind till now tbh (not that there is anything wrong with that)

My point was that people will often extrapolate from their own experiences and try to generalize from there (human nature).
However, this is a flawed approach that often results in erroneous judgments that prove difficult to change due to cognitive dissonance (where conflicting information is often ignored)

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[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Perhaps this is actually a 'TC' thread and not a 'girl' threadrawsavon

Lol! good one, There is no doubt that I am all man

I never said that you were a transsexual/transgendered person :?
...never even crossed my mind till now tbh (not that there is anything wrong with that)

My point was that people will often extrapolate from their own experiences and try to generalize from there (human nature).
However, this is a flawed approach that often results in erroneous judgments that prove difficult to change due to cognitive dissonance (where conflicting information is often ignored)

I didn't mean all man like that... I meant all man as in being good with women, you know gettin them digits 8)

All man as in experienced with women, the cool kind of all man

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="FrenchDynasty"]

Lol! good one, There is no doubt that I am all man FrenchDynasty

I never said that you were a transsexual/transgendered person :?
...never even crossed my mind till now tbh (not that there is anything wrong with that)

My point was that people will often extrapolate from their own experiences and try to generalize from there (human nature).
However, this is a flawed approach that often results in erroneous judgments that prove difficult to change due to cognitive dissonance (where conflicting information is often ignored)

I didn't mean all man like that... I meant all man as in being good with women, you know gettin them digits 8)

All man as in experienced with women, the cool kind of all man

Are you saying that transgendered and transsexual men are not cool?
Or
Aare you saying that those men not experienced with women are not cool?

[QUOTE="FrenchDynasty"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

I never said that you were a transsexual/transgendered person :?
...never even crossed my mind till now tbh (not that there is anything wrong with that)

My point was that people will often extrapolate from their own experiences and try to generalize from there (human nature).
However, this is a flawed approach that often results in erroneous judgments that prove difficult to change due to cognitive dissonance (where conflicting information is often ignored)

rawsavon

I didn't mean all man like that... I meant all man as in being good with women, you know gettin them digits 8)

All man as in experienced with women, the cool kind of all man

Are you saying that transgendered and transsexual men are not cool?
Or
Aare you saying that those men not experienced with women are not cool?

Neither.

All i'm saying is I'm all man in the sense that I go to clubs lookin fly, gettin digits, rollin up in my benz on 24's. Pimping you know?

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[QUOTE="FrenchDynasty"]

I didn't mean all man like that... I meant all man as in being good with women, you know gettin them digits 8)

All man as in experienced with women, the cool kind of all man

FrenchDynasty

Are you saying that transgendered and transsexual men are not cool?
Or
Aare you saying that those men not experienced with women are not cool?

Neither.

All i'm saying is I'm all man in the sense that I go to clubs lookin fly, gettin digits, rollin up in my benz on 24's. Pimping you know?

Though the OP combined with your last few posts does have me confused.
They seem a bit...contradictory

Girls have never made the first move with me, but that's because they've never been interested. One said she would have "eventually" if I didn't, but ... eh.

All i'm saying is I'm all man in the sense that I go to clubs lookin fly, gettin digits, rollin up in my benz on 24's. Pimping you know?

FrenchDynasty

The only women that made the first move on me are....needless to say they are old enough to be my mom....it makes me a sad panda

and no they weren't attractive.

It's not so much that I expect guys to make the first move, but rather that I'm afraid to do so. Yeah, I'm lame like that, but I'm not discontent about where it puts me or anything; I accept it. I think I tend to kind of be an awkward person anyways, so maybe it's for the best :P

its like survivor, you have to be the one that doesnt get voted off the island.Allicrombie

Im currently waiting for a girl to make the first move, well I'm expecting it anyway lol. Poor girl I hate to break her heart :( l0ve

i dont make 1st moves simply because its effort, but if there was someone worth making the effort for then id do it :)

In my case, they usually do. It just so happens that the first move is away.Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="l0ve"]Im currently waiting for a girl to make the first move, well I'm expecting it anyway lol. Poor girl I hate to break her heart :( sonofsmeagle