Why cigarettes are legal...

[QUOTE="Schadenfreude"][QUOTE="chimpiki"][QUOTE="Schadenfreude"]

[QUOTE="ConManWithGun"]actually weed is safer than ciggarettes, weed has never technically killed someonekilltactics

And cigarettes have? Both simply create long-term unwanted degenerations of the lungs, mouth and throat. Since weed is normally unfiltered, weed smoke is normally way worse for you than the well-filtered cigarettes. Not that either is remotely close to being good for you.

The government are making a lot of money off of it from tax. Maybe thats why cigarettes are legal.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.htmlhttp://www.webmd.com/content/article/23/1728_57309Caffeine_Trip

Interesting, I had no idea.  DARE fails me again.

[QUOTE="ConManWithGun"] so marijuana is safer than tobaccoLJS9502_basic

I don't know.....and I've seen vastly different studies.  However, to correctly establish a correlation one would need several control groups.  The amount smoked daily and the period of time...which would need to be lengthy....would need to be the same.  Not many marijuana smokers smoke as many times a day as a cigarette smoker....and many stop smoking as they get older.  So, it's hard for me to accept that statement on face value.  Scientifically, it hasn't been established with any certainty.

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[QUOTE="ConManWithGun"]actually weed is safer than ciggarettes, weed has never technically killed someoneSchadenfreude

And cigarettes have? Both simply create long-term unwanted degenerations of the lungs, mouth and throat. Since weed is normally unfiltered, weed smoke is normally way worse for you than the well-filtered cigarettes. Not that either is remotely close to being good for you.

Cigarettes are probably the most deadly drug in the world. It is harder to break the addiction to nicotine than it is heroine and most modern cigarettes contain thousands of chemicals and hundreds of carcinogens. Watch "The Truth" commercials and see me points.

Cigarettes are legal because the US makes massive BILLIONS of dollars off the industry... and money runs the west.
foxhound_fox

They're legal only because the government makes a crapload of tax money off of them.UT_Wrestler

Cigarettes are probably the most deadly drug in the world. It is harder to break the addiction to nicotine than it is heroine and most modern cigarettes contain thousands of chemicals and hundreds of carcinogens. Watch "The Truth" commercials and see me points.

Cigarettes are legal because the US makes massive BILLIONS of dollars off the industry... and money runs the west.
foxhound_fox

Cigarettes are probably the most deadly drug in the world. It is harder to break the addiction to nicotine than it is heroine and most modern cigarettes contain thousands of chemicals and hundreds of carcinogens. Watch "The Truth" commercials and see me points.

Cigarettes are legal because the US makes massive BILLIONS of dollars off the industry... and money runs the west.
foxhound_fox

yes fast food is not "good" for u either... but if u read the first post that guy wrote then your response "And cigarettes have?" it sounds like you did....killtactics

I believe he was referring to overdoses, or that's the impression I was under.

[QUOTE="Caffeine_Trip"]Schadenfreude

Interesting, I had no idea.  DARE fails me again.

As far as this topic.....studies differ and seemingly contradict themselves.  It depends on who did the study and why.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Cigarettes are probably the most deadly drug in the world. It is harder to break the addiction to nicotine than it is heroine and most modern cigarettes contain thousands of chemicals and hundreds of carcinogens. Watch "The Truth" commercials and see me points.

Cigarettes are legal because the US makes massive BILLIONS of dollars off the industry... and money runs the west.
killtactics

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[QUOTE="Caffeine_Trip"]LJS9502_basic

Interesting, I had no idea.  DARE fails me again.

As far as this topic.....studies differ and seemingly contradict themselves.  It depends on who did the study and why.

[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Cigarettes are probably the most deadly drug in the world. It is harder to break the addiction to nicotine than it is heroine and most modern cigarettes contain thousands of chemicals and hundreds of carcinogens. Watch "The Truth" commercials and see me points.

Cigarettes are legal because the US makes massive BILLIONS of dollars off the industry... and money runs the west.
Caffeine_Trip

...Which makes heroin dangerous, since it's extremely addictive.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Schadenfreude"]

[QUOTE="Caffeine_Trip"]Schadenfreude

Interesting, I had no idea. DARE fails me again.

As far as this topic.....studies differ and seemingly contradict themselves. It depends on who did the study and why.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Schadenfreude"]

[QUOTE="Caffeine_Trip"]Schadenfreude

Interesting, I had no idea.  DARE fails me again.

As far as this topic.....studies differ and seemingly contradict themselves.  It depends on who did the study and why.

[QUOTE="Schadenfreude"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Schadenfreude"]

[QUOTE="Caffeine_Trip"]Caffeine_Trip

Interesting, I had no idea. DARE fails me again.

As far as this topic.....studies differ and seemingly contradict themselves. It depends on who did the study and why.

You should have read my post as to why.....

[QUOTE="Schadenfreude"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Schadenfreude"]

[QUOTE="Caffeine_Trip"]ConManWithGun

Interesting, I had no idea.  DARE fails me again.

As far as this topic.....studies differ and seemingly contradict themselves.  It depends on who did the study and why.

I think I've given off the wrong impression, I'm not against weed at all.  I think it's a ridiculously stupid law that it's illegal in most places, and I believe that it's good for you if taken in moderation, a la alcohol.  I just have trouble believing that breathing in all that smoke is doing no wrong.  It's like those people who argue against global warming.  Well, we're putting all those gasses up there, are they just kind of disappearing and doing no harm?

Smoking will never enhance your life.....doing it reasonably may not endanger it.LJS9502_basic

Unless paranoia sets in, weed is very relaxing and a great way to let off steam after a hard week.

[QUOTE="ConManWithGun"][QUOTE="Schadenfreude"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Schadenfreude"]

[QUOTE="Caffeine_Trip"]LJS9502_basic

Interesting, I had no idea.  DARE fails me again.

As far as this topic.....studies differ and seemingly contradict themselves.  It depends on who did the study and why.

I don't smoke but I do believe in freedom of choice. If people want to smoke despite all the warnings then that's their decision. And if they want to stop there are plenty of ways to help them quit. That being said if they are surprised that they got cancer then they deserve it for being so dumb.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Smoking will never enhance your life.....doing it reasonably may not endanger it.Schadenfreude

Unless paranoia sets in, weed is very relaxing and a great way to let off steam after a hard week.

[QUOTE="Schadenfreude"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Smoking will never enhance your life.....doing it reasonably may not endanger it.Mumbles527

Unless paranoia sets in, weed is very relaxing and a great way to let off steam after a hard week.

 thats not true at all... i had a crazy year when i was in 10th grade that had a lot to do with smoking... also to your above post every thing can be dangerous if you have too much just look at that lady that died from too much water..killtactics

I'm not advocating the use of it.  I've known too many bad examples... However, I was pointing out that it doesn't add to life.  IE....it is not necessary.

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[QUOTE="Caffeine_Trip"]killtactics

Interesting, I had no idea.  DARE fails me again.

As far as this topic.....studies differ and seemingly contradict themselves.  It depends on who did the study and why.

What about people who get lung cancer? Are they not in pain? What about the ones who get hole put in their trachea's? Make cigarettes and alcohol illegal and you will get the same withdrawal results. Have you seen those shows on intervention? How the alcoholics gets when they do not have a drink? foxhound_fox

They're in pain after years and years and years of tobacco abuse.  Nicotine's negative effects, while serious, probably take longer to set in than any other drug on the market.  A cigarette addict of thirty years may end up with a hole in their throat.  You'll never meet a heroin addict of thirty years.

I highly doubt it, if you had a cigarette smoker and a heroin addict in the same room, both been deprived for the same amount of time, they would probably both break instantly. You CAN overdose on nicotine, look it up, just like every other narcotic. foxhound_fox

So what?  You CAN overdose on caffeine, hell, even water.  Does it happen often?  No.  Do heroin addicts overdose often?  Absolutely.  Because they're so addicted they're always looking for more.

I have had first hand experience seeing a person addicted to nicotine for my entire life now... it is not a pretty sight. It is a drug just as bad like any other... it is just the US government does not want to make it illegal because they are making so much money off of it.foxhound_fox

It is a drug, yes. I've seen addicts too.  But have you ever known drug addicts, like heroin or coke addicts?  There's a huge difference.  Tobacco smokers get pissed off and irritable when they need a smoke.  Coke and heroin addicts will stop at nothing, even stealing from and betraying family if they need a fix.

Look up the Opium Wars in China, the British forced people to get addicted so that they could get money from China, then in the end denied having any "bad" involvement in it, seeing as how they just supplied the opium, it was the smugglers that sold it to people.
foxhound_fox

I don't understand your point here I'm afraid.

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[QUOTE="Caffeine_Trip"]ConManWithGun

Interesting, I had no idea.  DARE fails me again.

As far as this topic.....studies differ and seemingly contradict themselves.  It depends on who did the study and why.

[QUOTE="ConManWithGun"][QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ConManWithGun"][QUOTE="Schadenfreude"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Schadenfreude"]

[QUOTE="Caffeine_Trip"]Schadenfreude

Interesting, I had no idea.  DARE fails me again.

As far as this topic.....studies differ and seemingly contradict themselves.  It depends on who did the study and why.

[QUOTE="Schadenfreude"][QUOTE="ConManWithGun"][QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ConManWithGun"][QUOTE="Schadenfreude"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Schadenfreude"]

[QUOTE="Caffeine_Trip"]ConManWithGun

Interesting, I had no idea.  DARE fails me again.

As far as this topic.....studies differ and seemingly contradict themselves.  It depends on who did the study and why.

[QUOTE="ConManWithGun"][QUOTE="Schadenfreude"][QUOTE="ConManWithGun"][QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ConManWithGun"][QUOTE="Schadenfreude"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Schadenfreude"]

[QUOTE="Caffeine_Trip"]Schadenfreude

Interesting, I had no idea.  DARE fails me again.

As far as this topic.....studies differ and seemingly contradict themselves.  It depends on who did the study and why.

[QUOTE="Schadenfreude"] Yeah, that's basically what I was saying. :PConManWithGun

You're forgiven. :)

[QUOTE="ConManWithGun"][QUOTE="Schadenfreude"] Yeah, that's basically what I was saying. :PSchadenfreude

You're forgiven. :)

well then, lets go get some coffe that way :arrow:

Cigarettes are probably the most deadly drug in the world. It is harder to break the addiction to nicotine than it is heroine and most modern cigarettes contain thousands of chemicals and hundreds of carcinogens. Watch "The Truth" commercials and see me points.

Cigarettes are legal because the US makes massive BILLIONS of dollars off the industry... and money runs the west.
foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Cigarettes are probably the most deadly drug in the world. It is harder to break the addiction to nicotine than it is heroine and most modern cigarettes contain thousands of chemicals and hundreds of carcinogens. Watch "The Truth" commercials and see me points.

Cigarettes are legal because the US makes massive BILLIONS of dollars off the industry... and money runs the west.
eTrace

Cigarettes don't change your state of mind or emotions...they are just addictive.Jigsaw_McGraw

[QUOTE="eTrace"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Cigarettes are probably the most deadly drug in the world. It is harder to break the addiction to nicotine than it is heroine and most modern cigarettes contain thousands of chemicals and hundreds of carcinogens. Watch "The Truth" commercials and see me points.

Cigarettes are legal because the US makes massive BILLIONS of dollars off the industry... and money runs the west.
Caffeine_Trip

[QUOTE="Caffeine_Trip"][QUOTE="eTrace"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Cigarettes are probably the most deadly drug in the world. It is harder to break the addiction to nicotine than it is heroine and most modern cigarettes contain thousands of chemicals and hundreds of carcinogens. Watch "The Truth" commercials and see me points.

Cigarettes are legal because the US makes massive BILLIONS of dollars off the industry... and money runs the west.
eTrace