Why do Adam and Eve have belly buttons?

More importantly, how are black people (or any other race for that matter) around if Adam and Eve were both white? Not many options there...chandlerr_360

In every depiction of the "first humans on earth" that I have ever seen, they (Adam & Eve) always have belly buttons. I'd like to know how this is possible. Or is this just another error on the part of christians not getting their facts in order before attempting to sell their stories to the public? It's not like they need to have belly buttons in order for the rest of us to relate to them better. :? Jeez, they could always just explain to people why they aren't there...

And please, try and refrain from elementary level responses such as, "god gave them belly buttons cause he felt like it! So phooey on you! Who are you to question what god does?!?! Rah rah rah..."

Deity_Slapper

Your username speaks volumes... But I'm atheist so I don't give a crap. I guess it means to depict Adam and Eve's normality?.. Or some other terrible excuse.

Because they're fictional characters?mattyftm

You hit the nail on the head, my friend.

Adam & Eve didn't exist ... they also didn't have names ... as for the belly buttons ? I'm not sure ... maybe :P

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Honestly, I don't know how exactly Adam and Eve looks like. But one thing for certain there were a man and a woman.

The drawings may or may not be accurate since no one has seen them before, but since Adam was the first man and Eve was the first woman (in human form), it is only logical to include a belly button too.

Deity_Slapper

Logical? The whole point of this is how it's ILLOGICAL! No umbilical cord = no belly button.

It just goes to show that church leaders aren't paying attention to the details. Details are important. After all, they're claiming ultimate truth with the things they teach, with no evidence. They least they could do would be to scan their own stories for any possible flaws before releasing them to the rest of the world. Don't ya think? It might help...

They're just not paying attention...tsk tsk.

But the church doesn't clam to have pictures of Adam and Eve.

Wait, is this whole thread about the paintings of Adam and Eve...?Cube_of_MooN

For some reason the TC thinks that paintings from the Middle Ages somehow proves the story false.

not to mention the church already agreed that its just a metaphor for something, which anyone with half a brain would acually realize that we all didnt come from 2 people.diped

[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"]Wait, is this whole thread about the paintings of Adam and Eve...?limpbizkit818

For some reason the TC thinks that paintings from the Middle Ages somehow proves the story false.

Because they're fictional characters?mattyftm

Probably the same reason Jesus is white, brown haired and blue eyed; that's how the Europeans knew things.MattUD1

Sounds about right to me.

Because of evolution. Yup, I believe in both evolution and creationism.Thiago26792

I guess that's better than rejecting evolution entirely.

[QUOTE="diped"]
not to mention the church already agreed that its just a metaphor for something, which anyone with half a brain would acually realize that we all didnt come from 2 people.Blitz_Nemesis

What you don't get is that the artists themselves were probably christians (who else would even have an interest in drawing those pictures?), and all representations of Adam & Eve went through church leaders to be approved before they were released. If they really believed they were the first humans, they would have noticed the belly buttons were an error. You want to be enabling and let them get off easy by saying it was an oversight, but if I was trying to convince millions of people that what I'm saying is an undeniable fact, I'd make sure things like that didn't happen. Accuracy is super important when claiming something as a fact. Otherwise, it gets picked apart too easily, and loses credibility, almost instantaneously.

The main point is, like I said earlier, if they care not to be accurate in matters such as these, which supposedly give a meaning and a foundation to all of us as beings living today, they can't be trusted to be accurate with anything else they attempt to preach. I can't trust a religion that claims to have the truth, yet leaves behind errors that are so blatant, and loopholes that are so huge, that you could fly a 747 through them. Sorry, I just can't trust them. They need to clean up their act. If I can notice problems within their stories, pictures, etc., that quickly, it doesn't do any good as far as being convincing.

If something is TRUE, then I, and nobody else, should be able to find so many flaws, so fast and so easily...unless it just really isn't true. You can't deny that.

Bottom line is: Truth doesn't have holes in it. That's why it's called the truth. Anything that has holes (and religions have many) couldn't be true. Common sense says so.

because god is a giant flying uterus/vagina. That is why they have belly buttons.

it kind of resembles a spaghetti monster acually.

not to mention the church already agreed that its just a metaphor for something, which anyone with half a brain would acually realize that we all didnt come from 2 people.diped

:lol: Wow! :lol:

Because Adam needed a place to drink wine from. :oops:tiffanyownsyou

comments like that make my day

at first i thought this was interesting and kind of funny i guess i dont understand why you had to bash christians. alot of people have painted that picture im sure non christians have painted them with belly buttons too. the answer may be something as simple as they did not think of that i honestly havent until now. interesting point i didnt see the need to bash christians though.metaldude05

I didn't bash christians. I do bash the religion though. But don't worry, I bash all religions equally. Christianity is just the most prevalent one in our society, so it gets the most attnetion.

because god is a giant flying uterus/vagina. That is why they have belly buttons.

it kind of resembles a spaghetti monster acually.

not to mention the church already agreed that its just a metaphor for something, which anyone with half a brain would acually realize that we all didnt come from 2 people.diped

In every depiction of the "first humans on earth" that I have ever seen, they (Adam & Eve) always have belly buttons. I'd like to know how this is possible. Or is this just another error on the part of christians

Deity_Slapper

NO.

No one would have realized what the belly button was for back then, so they assumed they were just there. Like the trees and the grass and the Earth.

[QUOTE="diped"]because god is a giant flying uterus/vagina. That is why they have belly buttons.

it kind of resembles a spaghetti monster acually.

not to mention the church already agreed that its just a metaphor for something, which anyone with half a brain would acually realize that we all didnt come from 2 people.Bloodbath_87

perhaps because Adam and Eve evolved from lower species like every other human? fanofazrienoch

Not according to christianity. Stay on topic now... :lol:

NO.

No one would have realized what the belly button was for back then, so they assumed they were just there. Like the trees and the grass and the Earth.

The_Ish

:question:

No one? You mean, the humans who themselves were attached to umbilical cords when they were born? What are you talking about? :?

You think there was a point in time when humans didn't know they were attached at the stomach to their mothers? Did their mothers not see it when they gave birth? :? I have no clue where you got this from...

[QUOTE="metaldude05"]at first i thought this was interesting and kind of funny i guess i dont understand why you had to bash christians. alot of people have painted that picture im sure non christians have painted them with belly buttons too. the answer may be something as simple as they did not think of that i honestly havent until now. interesting point i didnt see the need to bash christians though.Deity_Slapper

I didn't bash christians. I do bash the religion though. But don't worry, I bash all religions equally. Christianity is just the most prevalent one in our society, so it gets the most attnetion.

i just think the same point could have been without bashing any religion. i guess i just get tired of people trying to pick christianity apart. its not just you though.

[QUOTE="Deity_Slapper"]

[QUOTE="metaldude05"]at first i thought this was interesting and kind of funny i guess i dont understand why you had to bash christians. alot of people have painted that picture im sure non christians have painted them with belly buttons too. the answer may be something as simple as they did not think of that i honestly havent until now. interesting point i didnt see the need to bash christians though.metaldude05

I didn't bash christians. I do bash the religion though. But don't worry, I bash all religions equally. Christianity is just the most prevalent one in our society, so it gets the most attnetion.

i just think the same point could have been without bashing any religion. i guess i just get tired of people trying to pick christianity apart. its not just you though.

But making a point about a flaw in christianity would always be perceived as bashing it, especially by it's followers. I have no way to avoid that.

And it's christianity's fault that people always pick it apart...the church shouldn't have left so many errors and loopholes. When someone claims something as 100% truth, and people notice numerous errors within the supposed "truth", do you think those people are not going to speak up? We'd be in a bad way if everyone remained silent about what we're being exposed to, if it's blatantly incorrect.

In every depiction of the "first humans on earth" that I have ever seen, they (Adam & Eve) always have belly buttons. I'd like to know how this is possible. Or is this just another error on the part of christians not getting their facts in order before attempting to sell their stories to the public? It's not like they need to have belly buttons in order for the rest of us to relate to them better. :? Jeez, they could always just explain to people why they aren't there...

And please, try and refrain from elementary level responses such as, "god gave them belly buttons cause he felt like it! So phooey on you! Who are you to question what god does?!?! Rah rah rah..."

Deity_Slapper

Who the hell told you they had belly buttons?

[QUOTE="metaldude05"][QUOTE="Deity_Slapper"]

[QUOTE="metaldude05"]at first i thought this was interesting and kind of funny i guess i dont understand why you had to bash christians. alot of people have painted that picture im sure non christians have painted them with belly buttons too. the answer may be something as simple as they did not think of that i honestly havent until now. interesting point i didnt see the need to bash christians though.Deity_Slapper

I didn't bash christians. I do bash the religion though. But don't worry, I bash all religions equally. Christianity is just the most prevalent one in our society, so it gets the most attnetion.

i just think the same point could have been without bashing any religion. i guess i just get tired of people trying to pick christianity apart. its not just you though.

But making a point about a flaw in christianity would always be perceived as bashing it, especially by it's followers. I have no way to avoid that.

And it's christianity's fault that people always pick it apart...the church shouldn't have left so many errors and loopholes. When someone claims something as 100% truth, and people notice numerous errors within the supposed "truth", do you think those people are not going to speak up? We'd be in a bad way if everyone remained silent about what we're being exposed to, if it's blatantly incorrect.

what you pointed out was not a flaw in christianity. it was a rather meaningless point that doesnt affect what christianity is claiming at all. and how do we know they didnt have belly buttons its a good point but unless you were there you cant say that as a fact they didnt idk

[QUOTE="Deity_Slapper"]

But making a point about a flaw in christianity would always be perceived as bashing it, especially by it's followers. I have no way to avoid that.

And it's christianity's fault that people always pick it apart...the church shouldn't have left so many errors and loopholes. When someone claims something as 100% truth, and people notice numerous errors within the supposed "truth", do you think those people are not going to speak up? We'd be in a bad way if everyone remained silent about what we're being exposed to, if it's blatantly incorrect.

metaldude05

what you pointed out was not a flaw in christianity. it was a rather meaningless point that doesnt affect what christianity is claiming at all. and how do we know they didnt have belly buttons its a good point but unless you were there you cant say that as a fact they didnt idk

There are many flaws, not just this one. And I didn't have to be there to know that a belly button is the result of an umbilical cord. If they were the FIRST humans, and they were created, meaning they weren't born from a mother, they wouldn't have been attached to an umbilical cord, and they would not have belly buttons.

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[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"]Wait, is this whole thread about the paintings of Adam and Eve...?Cube_of_MooN

For some reason the TC thinks that paintings from the Middle Ages somehow proves the story false.

:lol:

Such a silly topic.

[QUOTE="metaldude05"][QUOTE="Deity_Slapper"]

But making a point about a flaw in christianity would always be perceived as bashing it, especially by it's followers. I have no way to avoid that.

And it's christianity's fault that people always pick it apart...the church shouldn't have left so many errors and loopholes. When someone claims something as 100% truth, and people notice numerous errors within the supposed "truth", do you think those people are not going to speak up? We'd be in a bad way if everyone remained silent about what we're being exposed to, if it's blatantly incorrect.

Deity_Slapper

what you pointed out was not a flaw in christianity. it was a rather meaningless point that doesnt affect what christianity is claiming at all. and how do we know they didnt have belly buttons its a good point but unless you were there you cant say that as a fact they didnt idk

There are many flaws, not just this one. And I didn't have to be there to know that a belly button is the result of an umbilical cord. If they were the FIRST humans, and they were created, meaning they weren't born from a mother, they wouldn't have been attached to an umbilical cord, and they would not have belly buttons.

i understand what you were getting at in the first place. no one can know for certain. and if you believe in a creator i dont think its to far fetched to believe that he created a belly button. frankly i dont know whether they did or not and dont really care. also it is not a big surprise that whenever you bring humans in the equation that things are flawed. i know translation errors occurred and so forth but to me that doesnt affect what i believe

haha this topic made me laugh, to realize that someone actually caught this is mad! haha good for your sir!

but in all honesty, I have no idea....

EXACTLY!!!! some atheists are so ignorant they bypass the fact that the stuff in the old testament isnt meant to be taken literally. you know its impossible for the world to of started from 2 people and the church knows it too. old testament isnt to be taken in word for word.

Then how IS it to be taken as? Metaphor? Sorry, but taking the Bible as ANYTHING but a literal defacto account of what happened invalidates it's status as an absolute religious artifact.

Look at it this way - if, for example, the story of Noah's Ark is a metaphor and not an actual event that took place (which it didn't, it's mathematically impossible, even more so than the Adam and Eve story, which is why a lot of Christians say it's "metaphor") or if something as important to the entire Christian model of creation such as the Adam and Eve story is said to be mere symbolism, then why not follow that logic path a little further? What if God himself is a metaphor, and not an actual sentiment being? If there are metaphors in the Bible, if we aren't sure which parts should be taken factual and which should be taken symbolically, then what's to stop me from saying that God is nothing but mere symbolism as well?

On top of that, I'd like to add something else as it relates to the whole Adam / Eve story that I think is fairly important;

Maybe I'm just not up to date which all the various new interpretations of the Bible, but the last I checked, the reason we have to accept Jesus as our "Savior" is because he died for our sins, and the reason he did that was because Eve took the apple and corrupted human nature. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. What this means, assuming the Adam / Eve story is just that - a story, and not an actual event - then why did Jesus die for our sins? Perhaps he didn't die for our sins? Perhaps that's metaphor as well?