Why do I love?

It doesn't make any sense. I'm a human being, supposedly rational, why do I behave irrationally when love comes into the equation? Love isn't helping me. Any point for its existence?

you see other higher anmals spending their entire life together. They hold hands, groom eachother, etc... What makes you think that they don't experience some sort of love?

Love helps preserve and propagate genes. That's why it evolved in the way it has.

you see other higher anmals spending their entire life together. They hold hands, groom eachother, etc... What makes you think that they don't experience some sort of love?

BumFluff122

Love helps preserve and propagate genes. That's why it evolved in the way it has.

Tezcatlipoca666

Many animals certainly do stick together much like humans do.Nerd_Man

The emotion of love can be seen in many other species, mammalian and otherwise. Love is a visceral genetic survival instinct.It is a genetic self-preservation tool. It's not a bad thing. Go with it. After all, we are notVulcans or robots, we are Humans.

Love helps preserve and propagate genes. That's why it evolved in the way it has.

Tezcatlipoca666

Love is a visceral genetic survival instinct.

compost-mentis

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

you see other higher anmals spending their entire life together. They hold hands, groom eachother, etc... What makes you think that they don't experience some sort of love?

Neon-Tiger

[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

Love helps preserve and propagate genes. That's why it evolved in the way it has.

Neon-Tiger

Gay love is due to a genetic abnormality (not necessarily a bad thing with spiralling population crises). Fraternal love links back to genetic survival/self-preservation instinct.

It doesn't make any sense. I'm a human being, supposedly rational, why do I behave irrationally when love comes into the equation? Love isn't helping me. Any point for its existence?

Neon-Tiger

Love is an emotion which helps to build long-term bonds for people. Since humans are a social species that would have long gone extinct if not for cooperation between members of a society, and since humans take a long time to develop and are vulnerable for many years before reaching sexual maturity, "love" is merely something that we've evolved to have as a means of helping us to strengthen the social bonds which allow us to survive.

You love because you made the choice to do so.

Then just ignore that part, my point still stands. Why do I love? What is the purpose?Neon-Tiger

Response 1:

It stimulates the production of chemicals in your brain whose presence creates a sensation that evolution has deemed desirable as it aids us in surviving and reproducing.

Response 2:

God wants us to be happy, and being in love makes us happy; therefore, God wants us to love.

Take your pick, depending on your outlook on life. :P

[QUOTE="Neon-Tiger"][QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

you see other higher anmals spending their entire life together. They hold hands, groom eachother, etc... What makes you think that they don't experience some sort of love?

BumFluff122

[QUOTE="Neon-Tiger"][QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

Love helps preserve and propagate genes. That's why it evolved in the way it has.

compost-mentis

Gay love is due to a genetic abnormality (not necessarily a bad thing). Fraternal love links back to genetic survival/self-preservation instinct.

Stuffed if I know, just mentally kill the thought and make sure it doesn't come back then spread your seeds around the world.

You love because you made the choice to do so.

CrystalFox

[QUOTE="CrystalFox"]

You love because you made the choice to do so.

Neon-Tiger

You always have a choice when it comes to a person you want to love or not. At least

that's what I believe. Whether you do it subconsciously or not, and even if you're wrong

you also have the choice of leaving it subsequently. I say invite it, don't fight it.

[QUOTE="Neon-Tiger"][QUOTE="CrystalFox"]

You love because you made the choice to do so.

CrystalFox

You always have a choice when it comes to a person you want to love or not. At least

that's what I believe. Whether you do it subconsciously or not, and even if you're wrong

you also have the choice of leaving it subsequently. I say invite it, don't fight it.

[QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

[QUOTE="Neon-Tiger"] Bollocks. What about gay love? What about fraternal love?BumFluff122

Gay love is due to a genetic abnormality (not necessarily a bad thing). Fraternal love links back to genetic survival/self-preservation instinct.

Of course it is! ALL of it is. We are ALL subject to the Human Condition, no matter how complex or well thought-out it may seem.

Looks like someone is in L-O-V-E. ;3333 "Pokes Neontiger with a stick"

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[QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

Gay love is due to a genetic abnormality (not necessarily a bad thing). Fraternal love links back to genetic survival/self-preservation instinct.

compost-mentis

Of course it is! ALL of it is. We are ALL subject to the Human Condition, no matter how complex or well thought-out it may seem.

Looks like someone is in L-O-V-E. ;3333 "Pokes Neontiger with a stick"

Dystopian-X

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[QUOTE="Neon-Tiger"] Far from it. I'd rather not be in love. It's driving me nuts.Nerd_Man

You always have a choice when it comes to a person you want to love or not. At least

that's what I believe. Whether you do it subconsciously or not, and even if you're wrong

you also have the choice of leaving it subsequently. I say invite it, don't fight it.

Well, from personal experience, I've had no problem choosing who I love and who I don't. As

for the upset and angry part eeehh not so much. But you're right, some people can't help it, and

this is one of those cases. But even so, you still have a choice on whether you choose to stay

with the person or not once you're with them. I think he should just give it a try, you never know.

[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"][QUOTE="CrystalFox"]

You always have a choice when it comes to a person you want to love or not. At least

that's what I believe. Whether you do it subconsciously or not, and even if you're wrong

you also have the choice of leaving it subsequently. I say invite it, don't fight it.

CrystalFox

Well, from personal experience, I've had no problem choosing who I love and who I don't. As

for the upset and angry part eeehh not so much. But you're right, some people can't help it, and

this is one of those cases. But even so, you still have a choice on whether you choose to stay

with the person or not once you're with them. I think he should just give it a try, you never know.

I think everyone has a choice for everything. Everyone has the choice to not show anger. I know a lot of people can get upset a lot of times with other people and still keep a straight face. I'm sure most of us here have done that. It's really just the person's choice to not show anger to other people. But does that mean the person no longer has such emotions? Just because one chooses not to flip out when they're angry doesn't mean they're not upset on the inside. I think the same thing can go for when one builds affection for another person. I'm sure you've had more than enough times where you built affection towards another person, and had a crush on them, but you decided anyways not to go for them because you knew it wouldn't work out - but does that mean you no longer have that affection towards that person? It's certainly still inside you at that point, and it's an emotion that you can't help. Of course that emotion will subside after a while, as does any emotion (One can't stay angry forever), but my point is one simply can't control their own feelings, whether they like it or not.

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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]Love is a combination of many different emotions and feelings. I highly doubt any of it is genetic.

BumFluff122

Of course it is! ALL of it is. We are ALL subject to the Human Condition, no matter how complex or well thought-out it may seem.

Feelings of love do not implicitly represent monogamy. Mammalian monogamy traits are in place to ensure a greater likelihood of healthy happy offspring with the individual mate that was chosen for their genetic qualities, but that is beside the point. Even higher brain function is subject to genetics and Human limitations. Consider it the difference between machine code and markup language.

One word: sex._en1gma_

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[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]Nerd_Man

I think everyone has a choice for everything. Everyone has the choice to not show anger. I know a lot of people can get upset a lot of times with other people and still keep a straight face. I'm sure most of us here have done that. It's really just the person's choice to not show anger to other people. But does that mean the person no longer has such emotions? Just because one chooses not to flip out when they're angry doesn't mean they're not upset on the inside. I think the same thing can go for when one builds affection for another person. I'm sure you've had more than enough times where you built affection towards another person, and had a crush on them, but you decided anyways not to go for them because you knew it wouldn't work out - but does that mean you no longer have that affection towards that person? It's certainly still inside you at that point, and it's an emotion that you can't help. Of course that emotion will subside after a while, as does any emotion (One can't stay angry forever), but my point is one simply can't control their own feelings, whether they like it or not.

I don't know about that last part, I think whether or not a person can subdue what they feel is incorporated on a multitude

of conditions such as how they were raised and where, how old they are, etc etc. Like you said earlier, some people simply

can't control what they feel. Just as you believe that, I believe there are people who can, maybe not every kind of emotion

there is to feel, but some.

Feelings of love do not implicitly represent monogamy. Mammalian monogamy traits are in place to ensure a greater likelihood of healthy happy offspring with the individual mate that was chosen for their genetic qualities, but that is beside the point. Even higher brain function is subject to genetics and Human limitations. Consider it the difference between machine code and markup language.

compost-mentis

Because you are young. Once you get older you will get over love and go back to lust;) At least if you are a man not a woman.

Then when you get really, really old and are on your death bead you will find love again.

;)

[QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

Feelings of love do not implicitly represent monogamy. Mammalian monogamy traits are in place to ensure a greater likelihood of healthy happy offspring with the individual mate that was chosen for their genetic qualities, but that is beside the point. Even higher brain function is subject to genetics and Human limitations. Consider it the difference between machine code and markup language.

BumFluff122

Those very feelings are a product of Human genetics, not rationality. As if that wasn't obvious.

Those very feelings are a product of Human genetics, not rationality. As if that wasn't obvious.

compost-mentis

[QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

Love is a visceral genetic survival instinct.

Neon-Tiger

[QUOTE="Neon-Tiger"][QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

Love is a visceral genetic survival instinct.

Faber_Fighter

Email Tiger Woods and ask him! After all your Neo-Tiger lol!

[QUOTE="Faber_Fighter"][QUOTE="Neon-Tiger"] A survival instinct that get many people killed. Counter-productive much?BumFluff122

Loves influences people to have sex.Faber_Fighter

[QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

Those very feelings are a product of Human genetics, not rationality. As if that wasn't obvious.

BumFluff122

Rubbish! All of society is a mature product of Human genetics. Emotion is genetic and society is an end-product of Human genetics combined with millenia of life experience/social construction.

Not surprisingly, I do not have research papers at my fingertips. On a quick Google search, how about this. This is relevant and interesting too.

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[QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

Those very feelings are a product of Human genetics, not rationality. As if that wasn't obvious.

compost-mentis

Rubbish! All of society is a matureproduct of Human genetics. Emotion is genetic and society is an end-product of Human genetics combined with millenia of life experience/social construction.

Not surprisingly, I do not have research papers at my fingertips. On a quick Google search, how about this.

Rubbish! All of society is a matureproduct of Human genetics. Emotion is genetic and society is an end-product of Human genetics combined with millenia of life experience/social construction.

Not surprisingly, I do not have research papers at my fingertips. On a quick Google search, how about this.

compost-mentis

compost-mentis

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]Those feelings are a product of a heightened sense of awareness, a heightened intelligence and so on. Love is not directly encoded into our DNA. If it is perhaps you can point me to a peer reviewed scientific article that states exactly where the genetic code for love is? You can't because there isn't one. It is a product of emotion and societal living. If you want to argue that love is a product of the evolution of society then I'll be right there along with you but it is not a product of biological evolution.

Rubbish! All of society is a matureproduct of Human genetics. Emotion is genetic and society is an end-product of Human genetics combined with millenia of life experience/social construction.

Not surprisingly, I do not have research papers at my fingertips. On a quick Google search, how about this.