Why do people believe things for no legitimate reason?

I doubt anyone believes in something for which there is no evidence. thegerg

All religious people fit this definition

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="thegerg"] I doubt anyone believes in something for which there is no evidence. thegerg

All religious people fit this definition

if something is to be called 'evidence' it needs to be able to be shared to others.  Voices in your head and dreams and other crap cannot be shared, they are personal anecdotes and are not evidence

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="thegerg"] No, they just see evidence where you don't. thegerg

if something is to be called 'evidence' it needs to be able to be shared to others.  Voices in your head and dreams and other crap cannot be shared, they are personal anecdotes and are not evidence

I'm not the one making things up here

Nice thinly veiled bash religion thread.

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="thegerg"] No, they just see evidence where you don't. thegerg

if something is to be called 'evidence' it needs to be able to be shared to others.  Voices in your head and dreams and other crap cannot be shared, they are personal anecdotes and are not evidence

[QUOTE="BenedictArnold7"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Like I said....you don't understand it and just want to bash what is beyond your comprehension. Congrats. I hope you feel better about yourself.thegerg

[QUOTE="BenedictArnold7"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]Hunches, feelings, believes, etc. Not everything needs to be solidified, physical, 100% scientifically proved for it to be real to someone. ShadowsDemon

Eg. believing weed is good for health.dramaybaz

I always hear that they experience life, or that they expereience amazing things and miracles that convince them that there must a god.

What, are you saying I have no life, bro?

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="thegerg"] No, they just see evidence where you don't. thegerg

if something is to be called 'evidence' it needs to be able to be shared to others.  Voices in your head and dreams and other crap cannot be shared, they are personal anecdotes and are not evidence

[QUOTE="edgewalker16"][QUOTE="BenedictArnold7"]

It is obvious that people believe things for no good reason.  Religion obviously being the best example.  People also believe things are definitely going to work out for them, or that their ill loved ones will magically recover... or other nonsense that is not grounded in reality.  When confronted about these things they elevate their beliefs to absurd heights... heights that rational discourse simply cannot reach. Why do we do this?  WHY?  

BenedictArnold7

Better question. Why do people have to have a legitimate reason for believing something. You know.. Thats why its called a belief. If they knew something then they would know it, not believe it.. 

[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

if something is to be called 'evidence' it needs to be able to be shared to others.  Voices in your head and dreams and other crap cannot be shared, they are personal anecdotes and are not evidence

ShadowsDemon

if someone ran up to you and said they were kidnapped by aliens and they walked around the ship and met the crew, but had no pictures, video, physical objects....that isn't evidence.  Evidence is not subjective. See how that flies in a courtroom.

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CHOASXIII

Love this!!! lol

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="thegerg"] "if something is to be called 'evidence' it needs to be able to be shared to others." Not always. Don't make up rules.wis3boi

if someone ran up to you and said they were kidnapped by aliens and they walked around the ship and met the crew, but had no pictures, video, physical objects....that isn't evidence.  Evidence is not subjective. See how that flies in a courtroom.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Indeed. Besides, evidence can be subjective. The reasons I believe in some thing likes God others won't believe in, whilst the things they use for reasons for their beliefs I can't connect with at all.ShadowsDemon

if someone ran up to you and said they were kidnapped by aliens and they walked around the ship and met the crew, but had no pictures, video, physical objects....that isn't evidence.  Evidence is not subjective. See how that flies in a courtroom.

Yes, but if you can't prove the evidence to me, why should I take what you say seriously? I will shrug it off and wait until it can be examined further

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

if someone ran up to you and said they were kidnapped by aliens and they walked around the ship and met the crew, but had no pictures, video, physical objects....that isn't evidence.  Evidence is not subjective. See how that flies in a courtroom.

wis3boi

Yes, but if you can't prove the evidence to me, why should I take what you say seriously? I will shrug it off and wait until it can be examined further

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] This is not a courtroom; sorry to disappoint you. Evidence is subjective, and there isn't anything you can say that will change that. Scientific/physical evidence, maybe so, but personal evidence is subjective. ShadowsDemon

Yes, but if you can't prove the evidence to me, why should I take what you say seriously? I will shrug it off and wait until it can be examined further

My standards arent that low that I wouldn't care about whether my beliefs were true or not

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

Yes, but if you can't prove the evidence to me, why should I take what you say seriously? I will shrug it off and wait until it can be examined further

wis3boi

My standards arent that low that I wouldn't care about whether my beliefs were true or not

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] I'm not awaiting your approval, or anyone else's. I wouldn't expect you to do the same yourself. ShadowsDemon

My standards arent that low that I wouldn't care about whether my beliefs were true or not

on certain big questions ,yes

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

My standards arent that low that I wouldn't care about whether my beliefs were true or not

wis3boi

on certain big questions ,yes

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

My standards arent that low that I wouldn't care about whether my beliefs were true or not

wis3boi

on certain big questions ,yes

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] ...so I have low standards because I don't think I have to prove myself to all the world and convince them of what I believe? :lol: Oh please. ShadowsDemon

on certain big questions ,yes

I actually care whether my beliefs are true or not, since actions are based on beliefs.  Eliminate as many false ones, and keep and grow my collection of true ones.  If you beleive something that you cannot justify, it's faith, and a bad reason.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

on certain big questions ,yes

wis3boi

I actually care whether my beliefs are true or not, since actions are based on beliefs.  Eliminate as many false ones, and keep and grow my collection of true ones.  If you beleive something that you cannot justify, it's faith, and a bad reason.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Nope. I don't need to justify anything to anyone if I choose not to. If you want to spend your life proving your beliefs, then you're welcome to do so, but don't throw your theories on the rest of humanity. ShadowsDemon

I actually care whether my beliefs are true or not, since actions are based on beliefs.  Eliminate as many false ones, and keep and grow my collection of true ones.  If you beleive something that you cannot justify, it's faith, and a bad reason.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

I actually care whether my beliefs are true or not, since actions are based on beliefs.  Eliminate as many false ones, and keep and grow my collection of true ones.  If you beleive something that you cannot justify, it's faith, and a bad reason.

BenedictArnold7

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

I actually care whether my beliefs are true or not, since actions are based on beliefs.  Eliminate as many false ones, and keep and grow my collection of true ones.  If you beleive something that you cannot justify, it's faith, and a bad reason.

BenedictArnold7

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Nope. I don't need to justify anything to anyone if I choose not to. If you want to spend your life proving your beliefs, then you're welcome to do so, but don't throw your theories on the rest of humanity. ShadowsDemon

I actually care whether my beliefs are true or not, since actions are based on beliefs.  Eliminate as many false ones, and keep and grow my collection of true ones.  If you beleive something that you cannot justify, it's faith, and a bad reason.

No I don't, and not you didn't. Do not make random shit up to stir the pot in the hopes of going "ah-HA!" 

I said it was plausible.  Not that it was proven or that I know it to be true.  If you can't handle the difference between the two it's no wonder you suck at these types of threads.

[QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]

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one_plum

:lol:

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

I actually care whether my beliefs are true or not, since actions are based on beliefs.  Eliminate as many false ones, and keep and grow my collection of true ones.  If you beleive something that you cannot justify, it's faith, and a bad reason.

wis3boi

No I don't, and not you didn't. Do not make random shit up to stir the pot in the hopes of going "ah-HA!" 

I said it was plausible.  Not that it was proven or that I know it to be true.  If you can't handle the difference between the two it's no wonder you suck at these types of threads.