why do people hate atheists

[QUOTE="Big-Shamrock"][QUOTE="Zeus89x"] :| Irony. I love it.scorch-62

I assume it's the latter.

because we are smarter then the rest

GrabTheYayo

[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

because we are smarter then the rest

GHlegend77

Because they are insecure and/or scared that their belief could be a lie or just really want to be right and everyone else to believe what they believe

I think I should state that I do not hate atheists. I do, however, tend to get somewhat defensive at points, and I obviously disagree with atheism. There are also certain individual atheists, "kinds" of atheists, atheist arguments, and atheist stereotypes that I find irritating, as can be said of any position that one disagrees with.

Now, I have to angrily comment on this.

because we are smarter then the rest

GrabTheYayo

I don't think it's very "smart" when some irate Youtuber spews how he hates religion and how it's "the cause of ALL wars," when this clearly contradicts basic facts.

I do not think it's "smart" when a filmmaker makes a documentary that he doesn't bother to fact check, and then the Rational Response Squad starts handing it out without fact-checking it themselves (way to not live up to the name) to people who participate in their "Blasphemy Challenge." Sure sounds like "preaching to the choir" to me.

I don't think it's particularly "smart" when someone decides that the "long-haired Jesus" argument holds any merit, when they don't bother to do *any* research into the Biblical text or the relevant art history.

I don't think it's particularly "smart" to assume that an argument is somehow completely airtight, and to open a thread with the initial *assumption* being that one has sufficiently "debunked" religion.

And I don't think it's particularly "smart" to act as though if we just got rid of the eeeeeeevil religion, we'd live in a wonderful utopia where there's nothing wrong and science and technology advance endlessly and there's no prejudice or war... and then have the unmitigated gall to call me delusional.

[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

because we are smarter then the rest

cybrcatter

[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

because we are smarter then the rest

cybrcatter

[QUOTE="Zeus89x"]

[QUOTE="scorch-62"]Because they're ignorant.Big-Shamrock

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Irony. I love it.

I misinterpreted it, my bad.

When he said they're, I thought he meant athiests.

It's pretty vague to say just "they're" when you're dealing with two groups.

because we are smarter then the rest

GrabTheYayo

Don't forget they are also very humble. ;)

I don't hate Atheists, but I do have some serious philosophical issues with many of the ones that I've met. I just think that most of the ones that I've encountered seem to group most religious people together as some sort of inferior, ignorant society, and look down upon them. I also dislike the tendency that I've personally encountered in many Atheists to ignore the logic behind the idea that "God" may in fact be the leader of an extraterrestrial race that is in some way responsible for our current existence here on Earth, or at least influencing the path of our development. We have countless ancient writings, drawings, carvings, etc.. that depict beings coming down from the sky in ancient times. Sometime after those writings were made, humans started forming religions based around deities that came to Earth from the heavens. So while God may not be exactly the creature that mainstream religions teach him/her/it to be, there is a basis to what religions are teaching.

From my experience, when there are conflicting accounts and conflicting evidence as to what happened, the truth is usually somewhere in the middle. I think that the "Alien" proposition as the basis for religions worldwide is the most logical compromise between physical, scientific reality, and religious mysticism that has been passed down through the ages from a time when people knew nothing of modern technology. And no, I don't think that the fact that we don't have an alien corpse or ship available for public viewing invalidates this theory.. because I know someone is likely to ask. Evidence of this type would be considered highly controversial and dangerous by religions and governments throughout history (even today), so it doesn't surprise me that this type of evidence isn't widely available through "credible" sources.

[QUOTE="Big-Shamrock"][QUOTE="Zeus89x"]

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Irony. I love it.

Zeus89x

I misinterpreted it, my bad.

When he said they're, I thought he meant athiests.

It's pretty vague to say just "they're" when you're dealing with two groups.

because we are smarter then the rest

because we are smarter then the rest

Atheists may possess the logical higher-ground, but that doesn't mean dick when much of the world's moral beliefs assume that religiousity leads to superior morality (e.g. my country). We're not perceived favourably by most cultures except maybe the most modern, secular and educated ones.

It doesn't help that as evidenced by this thread, there are people out there who apparently think that a lot of modern science is a bunch propaganda-filled fantasies perpetrated by atheists with small manhoods and an inate desire to "disprove" God. I sense a faulty education system and a resulting poor understanding of the scientific method at work here.

[QUOTE="Hellfire-1"][QUOTE="GHlegend77"] So you're saying that religious people are dumber because their beliefs are based off of faith and trust instead of logic? I heavily disagree. From my experience, an Atheist scientist will come up with something to explain anything as long as it doesn't involve a God. Some call it logic. I call it hog-wash.Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Hellfire-1"][QUOTE="GHlegend77"] So you're saying that religious people are dumber because their beliefs are based off of faith and trust instead of logic? I heavily disagree. From my experience, an Atheist scientist will come up with something to explain anything as long as it doesn't involve a God. Some call it logic. I call it hog-wash.Snipes_2

Supernatural = Science that we don't yet understand

Religion (most) = Belief in the Supernatural

Religion = Belief in things that happened that we don't yet understand.

Doesn't sound like blind faith to me. Sounds like faith in a higher power based on inexplicable events.

Supernatural = Science that we don't yet understand

Religion (most) = Belief in the Supernatural

Religion = Belief in things that happened that we don't yet understand.

Doesn't sound like blind faith to me. Sounds like faith in a higher power based on inexplicable events.

hartsickdiscipl

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Hellfire-1"] But is it possible for a scientist to be religious, and by religious, I mean truly 100% religious? Science is based off of observations and evidence, how can a scientist believe in something requiring blind faith? :? Don't they contradict somewhere down the line?Hellfire-1

Supernatural = Science that we don't yet understand

Religion (most) = Belief in the Supernatural

Religion = Belief in things that happened that we don't yet understand.

Doesn't sound like blind faith to me. Sounds like faith in a higher power based on inexplicable events.

because they think were a bunch of devil worshippers, which is not true at all

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Supernatural = Science that we don't yet understand

Religion (most) = Belief in the Supernatural

Religion = Belief in things that happened that we don't yet understand.

Doesn't sound like blind faith to me. Sounds like faith in a higher power based on inexplicable events.

Hellfire-1

I can't speak for all religious people, but for me the point is being held accountable to a higher power for my actions, not just myself or other humans who are on the same level as me. This is based on the belief that even though I can't explain exactly why or how the events in the Bible (or other holy books) happened, they did happen, and that those events require something much greater and/or more advanced than myself to exist and have influenced our planet. That's what it's all about for me. God could be a ball of energy, an interdimensional being, or a humanoid E.T., it doesn't matter to me in terms of my faith.

Now, if someone finds the events of the Bible or other ancient writings to be so far-fetched that they don't believe it could have happened, and they think they can absolutely disprove them with contemporary science and knowledge... I could see them having a hard time believing in God, due to lack of evidence. For me, I've just seen way too many references to "god" or "gods" from heaven, "sky gods," etc.. from around the world to discount the idea that some very bizarre things did happen, whether I can explain them or not.

i want to know

Vader993

now everyone stop fighting as ot of this thread i command you to stop

because we are smarter then the restGrabTheYayo

I hate athiesm because they call it science when it should be called a religion even though they have evidence IMO. IF christians had all the evidence in the world on their side, it would be still called religion.

i want to know

Vader993

Because they hate me :x

Because they the majority of people are religious to some extent and Atheists (especially the rabid ones) tend to say things they don't like to hear.

Furthermore they reside on the factual highground since they, being non believers and all, don't have to prove anything unlike religious people, who have to combine faith with reality.

Now I don't necessarily agree with either side but I'm definitely inclined towards atheism, were I forced to choose at gun point. I'm not going to deny the presence of inexplicable phenomena but I certainly can't settle for making up crap and just accepting it at face value.

Seriously, they can't even agree about right and wrong withing their specific religions.

I hate athiesm because they call it science when it should be called a religion even though they have evidence IMO. IF christians had all the evidence in the world on their side, it would be still called religion.

rockerbikie

Uhm, no. If FX christians could actually prove that their faith was factual truth, it would be science. It would probably also destroy worldwide faith since God would have to answer for his actions all of a sudden.

Humanity is'nt known for taking anything (apart from religion) at face value we're certainly not known for letting small things like being powerless stand in the way of rebellion.

Atheism could however be considerd a religion of denial, I'll agree with that.

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I hate athiesm because they call it science when it should be called a religion even though they have evidence IMO. IF christians had all the evidence in the world on their side, it would be still called religion.

Uhm, no. If FX christians could actually prove that their faith was factual truth, it would be science. It would probably also destroy worldwide faith since God would have to answer for his actions all of a sudden.

Humanity is'nt known for taking anything (apart from religion) at face value we're certainly not known for letting small things like being powerless stand in the way of rebellion.

Atheism could however be considerd a religion of denial, I'll agree with that.

Mostly because people are raised to be religious and think everything is wrong except their own religion.

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="rockerbikie"]

I hate athiesm because they call it science when it should be called a religion even though they have evidence IMO. IF christians had all the evidence in the world on their side, it would be still called religion.

rockerbikie

Uhm, no. If FX christians could actually prove that their faith was factual truth, it would be science. It would probably also destroy worldwide faith since God would have to answer for his actions all of a sudden.

Humanity is'nt known for taking anything (apart from religion) at face value we're certainly not known for letting small things like being powerless stand in the way of rebellion.

Atheism could however be considerd a religion of denial, I'll agree with that.

It's a religion because it explains our origins but on the basis on (pseudo*)fiction.

If we had actual proof (or at least evidence indicating that we were indeed cenceived according to the bible) we'd have a working theory of origin, which would make it science. In this case everyone would be forced to accept it just like it's hard to deny gravity.

Oh yeah, it's also important to remember that science is not finite. The gravity I just mentioned? An everyday truth but still a scientific theory, similar to how we normally accept that PI = 3.14 which is only true for the sake of convenience.

(* As far as I'm aware, we can actually prove that Jesus, the man was alive at the time FX. But the evidence stops a long way off from all the juicy bits).

Atheists generally are elitists. I hate those. Others are fine.th3warr1or

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]Atheists generally are elitists. I hate those. Others are fine.Snipes_2

Generalizing is bad you know. It's like me claiming that religious people are generally condescending, elitist salesmen, which I'd never dare.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"]Atheists generally are elitists. I hate those. Others are fine.Filthybastrd

Generalizing is bad you know. It's like me claiming that religious people are generally condescending, elitist salesmen, which I'd never dare.

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] That's a good point. I've noticed that too. Snipes_2

Generalizing is bad you know. It's like me claiming that religious people are generally condescending, elitist salesmen, which I'd never dare.

I could easily say that from my experience, religious people act like the know and are better than non religious people (condescending, elitist) and they also generally try to convert people (salesmen).

It's all generalzing and neither of us have any actual idea about how most people perceive reality.

You're right about me however (except for the atheist part). If someone confronts me with religion, I'm liable to show behaviour that could be interpretesd as elitist.

Edit: Since I'm at it, I'm just going to go ahead and claim that most religious people are'nt actually religious either. Or more specifically: They're religious to varying degrees depending on how much it's suits them in a given situation. I truely believe this but I'm also aware it's a product of bias.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] That's a good point. I've noticed that too. Snipes_2

Generalizing is bad you know. It's like me claiming that religious people are generally condescending, elitist salesmen, which I'd never dare.

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] That's a good point. I've noticed that too. Snipes_2

Generalizing is bad you know. It's like me claiming that religious people are generally condescending, elitist salesmen, which I'd never dare.

I'm on the fence theres times I believe theres something out there and theres times I can't see how there is anything out there I don't dislike atheists or religious people I dislike people who shove their beliefs in my face

religion cant be prove it doesn't matter how much theorising you do on the subject it comes down to faith