Why do people need Religion?

Why do people need Religion? There is very little proof to support the existence of a giant man in the sky, or 'God' as people would like to have him known.

I mean, when people are that deep in Religion, you are almost clouding your vision of the world.

It might seem like Religion is something we need to give us closure from death, but the truth is that there is no closure from death. Death is an inevitability. I don't think we should worry (Or have to worry) about how we behave on this earth just to have a little closure from Death. Why can't people just shrug and say, honestly, that they know nothing about what will happen after Death, because, clearly we don't really.

That is the main selling point of Religion; closure after that most inevitable of occurrences: Death.

Discuss.

God is a giant in the sky?? :shock:

That statement alone shows how much you know about religion.

too many god threads today...

too many god threads today...

comp_atkins

There's always too many.

God is a giant in the sky?? :shock:

That statement alone shows how much you know about religion.

harashawn

You know what I mean. That he is some amazing, all-knowing, omnipotent, all loving guy.

It's for people who seek a purpose.

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

too many god threads today...

THE_DRUGGIE

There's always too many.

Apparently, to some, there is never enough.

People believe in religion(s) for many reasons, ranging from the fear of death or morality to the idea of superiority or yearning for more meaning in life. There are many other reasons as well, however.

It is stressed that just because you are part of a religion for one reason does not mean you also advocate all other reasons one may join a religion as well.

Religion offers knowledge of the unknowable. Elraptor

thats that same as saying "religion offers made-up answers for questions we do not have answers for"

Religion offers knowledge of the unknowable. Elraptor

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You know what I mean. That he is some amazing, all-knowing, omnipotent, all loving guy.

KOTORkicker

That's better.

It just really annoys me when people call him a "giant in the sky (with a white beard)".

[QUOTE="Elraptor"]Religion offers knowledge of the unknowable. KOTORkicker

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I think your sarcasm detecter is broken...

why do people need science, love, friendship, religion, philosophy, chicken wings? Because everyone is looking for a reason, and an answer, and people turn to different things for their answers and reasoning.johnnyv2003

...Or because they're hungry.

Listen learn about the catholic saints and thousands of miralces over 2000 years and you will know why, not to mention how 70,000 people mostly atheist at the time witnessed at fatima, stigmata which has been proven by scientists as unexplainable, seriously arrogant atheist just need to learn a bit more about the history of christianity instead of just getting it off some youtube video, i could go on and on at how may there were, i hate it when people say there is no proof, educate yourselves then?Paddy345

"proven as unexplainable" how exactly is something proven unexplainable?

Religion offers knowledge of the unknowable. Elraptor

[QUOTE="Elraptor"]Religion offers knowledge of the unknowable. comp_atkins

thats that same as saying "religion offers made-up answers for questions we do not have answers for"

[QUOTE="Elraptor"]Religion offers knowledge of the unknowable. C_Town_Soul

thats that same as saying "religion offers made-up answers for questions we do not have answers for"

comp_atkins

And that's the same as saying "Science offers made-up answers for questions we do not have an answer to".

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

thats that same as saying "religion offers made-up answers for questions we do not have answers for"

harashawn

And that's the same as saying "Science offers made-up answers for questions we do not have an answer to".

Science attempts to use fact to find out the answers. Unless I'm mistaken, the Bible doesn't tell us why we don't fly off into space; or why the Sun shines...

Listen learn about the catholic saints and thousands of miralces over 2000 years and you will know why, not to mention how 70,000 people mostly atheist at the time witnessed at fatima, stigmata which has been proven by scientists as unexplainable, seriously arrogant atheist just need to learn a bit more about the history of christianity instead of just getting it off some youtube video, i could go on and on at how may there were, i hate it when people say there is no proof, educate yourselves then?Paddy345

Don't you think most people in the developed world are born into families with Religion?

I already know plenty about Catholicism, the Catholic Church, Christianity and nearly all forms of Religion as they are known. Do we have first-hand proof of these events? Thats a big fat noooooooo, my friend.

And please, use some full stops.

"seriously arrogant atheist"

Paddy345

And explain to me why it is only the atheists who can ever be arrogant and not the theists. You're not always in the right, you know.

Why are there so many religion threads today?

There are potentially countless reasons why people believe in God, there is not one simple answer. Your hypocrisy is also clearly shown because you are trying to shove Atheism down my throat while bashing religions for doing the same thing. If you don't like religion, fine by me. Just don't start screaming your lungs out about supposed "facts" and "logic."

Indeed, BOTH theories about how the Earth was made sound made up. In one, "nothing" somehow explodes and forms something despite everything being made of space dust and in the other an omnipotent being creates everything.

[QUOTE="johnnyv2003"]why do people need science, love, friendship, religion, philosophy, chicken wings? Because everyone is looking for a reason, and an answer, and people turn to different things for their answers and reasoning.-Jiggles-

...Or because they're hungry.

and being hungry is a reason...or is a reason for a sect of people who worship it

Why are there so many religion threads today?

Bigg_Boi

Why are there so many religion threads today?

There are potentially countless reasons why people believe in God, there is not one simple answer. Your hypocrisy is also clearly shown because you are trying to shove Atheism down my throat while bashing religions for doing the same thing. If you don't like religion, fine by me. Just don't start screaming your lungs out about supposed"facts" and "logic."

Bigg_Boi

Explain how I am being hypocritical.

[QUOTE="Bigg_Boi"]

Why are there so many religion threads today?

Elraptor

I know that. And I dearly wish they would all stop. Arguing about religion almost always devolves into senseless screaming, ranting, and Youtube videos.

As for the hypocrisy explaination, you might want to re-read the whole sentence.

It's for people who seek a purpose.

Oleg_Huzwog

and people that are going through a really hard time. That or they do drugs to get over it.

People feel the need to be right and want to believe they are in the business of worshipping the correct god. It can't be easy to give that up especially since it means that everything your parents taught you is not reality.

[QUOTE="Paddy345"]Listen learn about the catholic saints and thousands of miralces over 2000 years and you will know why, not to mention how 70,000 people mostly atheist at the time witnessed at fatima, stigmata which has been proven by scientists as unexplainable, seriously arrogant atheist just need to learn a bit more about the history of christianity instead of just getting it off some youtube video, i could go on and on at how may there were, i hate it when people say there is no proof, educate yourselves then?KOTORkicker

Don't you think most people in the developed world are born into families with Religion?

I already know plenty about Catholicism, the Catholic Church, Christianity and nearly all forms of Religion as they are known. Do we have first-hand proof of these events? Thats a big fat noooooooo, my friend.

And please, use some full stops.

"seriously arrogant atheist"

Paddy345

And explain to me why it is only the atheists who can ever be arrogant and not the theists. You're not always in the right, you know.

Yes we do and we even have scientists who witnessed them and later converted, also learn about padre pio who has, also there is even a woman in damascaus about 20 years ago, i think video is still on youtube, many scientists examined here stigmata and even showed wounds in her hands, feet and side opening and later closing, this was proven. cmon

Anyways, the thought of an omnipotent, loving being is simply a very appealing image. Or would you prefer to believe in magical space dust?Bigg_Boi

maybe the being uses magical space dust?

[QUOTE="Bigg_Boi"]Anyways, the thought of an omnipotent, loving being is simply a very appealing image. Or would you prefer to believe in magical space dust?johnnyv2003

maybe the being uses magical space dust?

Good point. But how would this magical space dust taste like!? (Yay for taking a religion thread off topic!)

Anyways, the thought of an omnipotent, loving being is simply a very appealing image. Or would you prefer to believe in magical space dust?Bigg_Boi

So now you try to make Science look like Religion? Science backs up it's theories and assumptions with evidence. What evidence does Religion provide? Let's go down here...

[QUOTE="KOTORkicker"]

[QUOTE="Paddy345"]Listen learn about the catholic saints and thousands of miralces over 2000 years and you will know why, not to mention how 70,000 people mostly atheist at the time witnessed at fatima, stigmata which has been proven by scientists as unexplainable, seriously arrogant atheist just need to learn a bit more about the history of christianity instead of just getting it off some youtube video, i could go on and on at how may there were, i hate it when people say there is no proof, educate yourselves then?Paddy345

Don't you think most people in the developed world are born into families with Religion?

I already know plenty about Catholicism, the Catholic Church, Christianity and nearly all forms of Religion as they are known. Do we have first-hand proof of these events? Thats a big fat noooooooo, my friend.

And please, use some full stops.

"seriously arrogant atheist"

Paddy345

And explain to me why it is only the atheists who can ever be arrogant and not the theists. You're not always in the right, you know.

Yes we do and we even have scientists who witnessed them and later converted, also learn about padre pio who has, also there is even a woman in damascaus about 20 years ago, i think video is still on youtube, many scientists examined here stigmata and even showed wounds in her hands, feet and side opening and later closing, this was proven. cmon

As far as I know, the human body does heal itself. Unless I'm mistaken.

/sarcasm

[QUOTE="johnnyv2003"]

[QUOTE="Bigg_Boi"]Anyways, the thought of an omnipotent, loving being is simply a very appealing image. Or would you prefer to believe in magical space dust?Bigg_Boi

maybe the being uses magical space dust?

Good point. But how would this magical space dust taste like!? (Yay for taking a religion thread off topic!)

I have a feeling that it would taste like pixie sticks...that's just me being hopeful though

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

thats that same as saying "religion offers made-up answers for questions we do not have answers for"

harashawn

And that's the same as saying "Science offers made-up answers for questions we do not have an answer to".

science uses evidence to back up its theories. and its theories are self-correcting. if a better theory comes along and fits the evidence better, the old theory is discarded.

Because people need to cope with an uncertain universe. What if I told you that technically, whenever you wake up in the morning and sit down in your favorite chair, that you could fall through it and land in a puddle of metal ooze? Theoretically, in physics and mathmatics there is no gaurentee that when you wake up in the morning your chair will necessarily be a chair. But what would happen if you worried about the possibility of falling through that chair every morning, and it came to haunt you. What if your car suddenly dematerialized in a puddle of metal ooze? Theoretically it is possible after all. In order to cope with a naturally chaotic and unpredictable universe humans are prone to formulate faith. You would get severly deperessed if you woke up every morning realizing that you had no control.Vandalvideo

I wake up supposedly with 'No control' along with the millions of other atheists in the world. I don't feel any more insecure for it.

[QUOTE="Bigg_Boi"]Anyways, the thought of an omnipotent, loving being is simply a very appealing image. Or would you prefer to believe in magical space dust?KOTORkicker

So now you try to make Science look like Religion? Science backs up it's theories and assumptions with evidence. What evidence does Religion provide? Let's go down here...

[QUOTE="KOTORkicker"]

[QUOTE="Paddy345"]Listen learn about the catholic saints and thousands of miralces over 2000 years and you will know why, not to mention how 70,000 people mostly atheist at the time witnessed at fatima, stigmata which has been proven by scientists as unexplainable, seriously arrogant atheist just need to learn a bit more about the history of christianity instead of just getting it off some youtube video, i could go on and on at how may there were, i hate it when people say there is no proof, educate yourselves then?Paddy345

Don't you think most people in the developed world are born into families with Religion?

I already know plenty about Catholicism, the Catholic Church, Christianity and nearly all forms of Religion as they are known. Do we have first-hand proof of these events? Thats a big fat noooooooo, my friend.

And please, use some full stops.

"seriously arrogant atheist"

Paddy345

And explain to me why it is only the atheists who can ever be arrogant and not the theists. You're not always in the right, you know.

Yes we do and we even have scientists who witnessed them and later converted, also learn about padre pio who has, also there is even a woman in damascaus about 20 years ago, i think video is still on youtube, many scientists examined here stigmata and even showed wounds in her hands, feet and side opening and later closing, this was proven. cmon

As far as I know, the human body does heal itself. Unless I'm mistaken.

/sarcasm

in a way i think we have regeneration. for instance if you pick at a scab on your arm 5 to 10 minutes later it's a new scab.

[QUOTE="Bigg_Boi"]Anyways, the thought of an omnipotent, loving being is simply a very appealing image. Or would you prefer to believe in magical space dust?KOTORkicker

So now you try to make Science look like Religion? Science backs up it's theories and assumptions with evidence. What evidence does Religion provide? Let's go down here...

[QUOTE="KOTORkicker"]

[QUOTE="Paddy345"]Listen learn about the catholic saints and thousands of miralces over 2000 years and you will know why, not to mention how 70,000 people mostly atheist at the time witnessed at fatima, stigmata which has been proven by scientists as unexplainable, seriously arrogant atheist just need to learn a bit more about the history of christianity instead of just getting it off some youtube video, i could go on and on at how may there were, i hate it when people say there is no proof, educate yourselves then?Paddy345

Don't you think most people in the developed world are born into families with Religion?

I already know plenty about Catholicism, the Catholic Church, Christianity and nearly all forms of Religion as they are known. Do we have first-hand proof of these events? Thats a big fat noooooooo, my friend.

And please, use some full stops.

"seriously arrogant atheist"

Paddy345

And explain to me why it is only the atheists who can ever be arrogant and not the theists. You're not always in the right, you know.

Yes we do and we even have scientists who witnessed them and later converted, also learn about padre pio who has, also there is even a woman in damascaus about 20 years ago, i think video is still on youtube, many scientists examined here stigmata and even showed wounds in her hands, feet and side opening and later closing, this was proven. cmon

As far as I know, the human body does heal itself. Unless I'm mistaken.

/sarcasm

I've never heard of wound similar to christ mystriously opening and disapperaing without scars in a few hours and was examined even by scientists

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Because people need to cope with an uncertain universe. What if I told you that technically, whenever you wake up in the morning and sit down in your favorite chair, that you could fall through it and land in a puddle of metal ooze? Theoretically, in physics and mathmatics there is no gaurentee that when you wake up in the morning your chair will necessarily be a chair. But what would happen if you worried about the possibility of falling through that chair every morning, and it came to haunt you. What if your car suddenly dematerialized in a puddle of metal ooze? Theoretically it is possible after all. In order to cope with a naturally chaotic and unpredictable universe humans are prone to formulate faith. You would get severly deperessed if you woke up every morning realizing that you had no control.KOTORkicker

I wake up supposedly with 'No control' along with the millions of other atheists in the world. I don't feel any more insecure for it.

[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

thats that same as saying "religion offers made-up answers for questions we do not have answers for"

comp_atkins

And that's the same as saying "Science offers made-up answers for questions we do not have an answer to".

science uses evidence to back up its theories. and its theories are self-correcting. if a better theory comes along and fits the evidence better, the old theory is discarded.

Whereas Religion pushes its faults under the carpet. Science acknowledges it's faults.

[QUOTE="Bigg_Boi"]Anyways, the thought of an omnipotent, loving being is simply a very appealing image. Or would you prefer to believe in magical space dust?KOTORkicker

So now you try to make Science look like Religion? Science backs up it's theories and assumptions with evidence. What evidence does Religion provide? Let's go down here...

[QUOTE="KOTORkicker"]

[QUOTE="Paddy345"]Listen learn about the catholic saints and thousands of miralces over 2000 years and you will know why, not to mention how 70,000 people mostly atheist at the time witnessed at fatima, stigmata which has been proven by scientists as unexplainable, seriously arrogant atheist just need to learn a bit more about the history of christianity instead of just getting it off some youtube video, i could go on and on at how may there were, i hate it when people say there is no proof, educate yourselves then?Paddy345

Don't you think most people in the developed world are born into families with Religion?

I already know plenty about Catholicism, the Catholic Church, Christianity and nearly all forms of Religion as they are known. Do we have first-hand proof of these events? Thats a big fat noooooooo, my friend.

And please, use some full stops.

"seriously arrogant atheist"

Paddy345

And explain to me why it is only the atheists who can ever be arrogant and not the theists. You're not always in the right, you know.

Yes we do and we even have scientists who witnessed them and later converted, also learn about padre pio who has, also there is even a woman in damascaus about 20 years ago, i think video is still on youtube, many scientists examined here stigmata and even showed wounds in her hands, feet and side opening and later closing, this was proven. cmon

As far as I know, the human body does heal itself. Unless I'm mistaken.

/sarcasm

The whole basis of religion is faith! If religion was backed up by legions of textbooks, then it wouldn't be religon now would it? Religion is belief and hope, not a biology exam.

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

thats that same as saying "religion offers made-up answers for questions we do not have answers for"

KOTORkicker

And that's the same as saying "Science offers made-up answers for questions we do not have an answer to".

science uses evidence to back up its theories. and its theories are self-correcting. if a better theory comes along and fits the evidence better, the old theory is discarded.

Whereas Religion pushes its faults under the carpet. Science acknowledges it's faults.

it encourages scrutiny and skepticism, not punishes it.

[QUOTE="KOTORkicker"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Because people need to cope with an uncertain universe. What if I told you that technically, whenever you wake up in the morning and sit down in your favorite chair, that you could fall through it and land in a puddle of metal ooze? Theoretically, in physics and mathmatics there is no gaurentee that when you wake up in the morning your chair will necessarily be a chair. But what would happen if you worried about the possibility of falling through that chair every morning, and it came to haunt you. What if your car suddenly dematerialized in a puddle of metal ooze? Theoretically it is possible after all. In order to cope with a naturally chaotic and unpredictable universe humans are prone to formulate faith. You would get severly deperessed if you woke up every morning realizing that you had no control.Vandalvideo

I wake up supposedly with 'No control' along with the millions of other atheists in the world. I don't feel any more insecure for it.

Yes. I think about that law of science and physics all the time. I also think about all the things that Religion remedies and provides closure for. I do not, however, let them get to me. I do use Logic to make a reasonable assumption that the chair will not not be a chair when I decide to sit down.

Yes. I think about that law of science and physics all the time. I also think about all the things that Religion remedies and provides closure for. I do not, however, let them get to me. I do use Logic to make a reasonable assumption that the chair will not not be a chair when I decide to sit down. KOTORkicker

[QUOTE="KOTORkicker"]

[QUOTE="Bigg_Boi"]Anyways, the thought of an omnipotent, loving being is simply a very appealing image. Or would you prefer to believe in magical space dust?Bigg_Boi

So now you try to make Science look like Religion? Science backs up it's theories and assumptions with evidence. What evidence does Religion provide? Let's go down here...

[QUOTE="KOTORkicker"]

[QUOTE="Paddy345"]Listen learn about the catholic saints and thousands of miralces over 2000 years and you will know why, not to mention how 70,000 people mostly atheist at the time witnessed at fatima, stigmata which has been proven by scientists as unexplainable, seriously arrogant atheist just need to learn a bit more about the history of christianity instead of just getting it off some youtube video, i could go on and on at how may there were, i hate it when people say there is no proof, educate yourselves then?Paddy345

Don't you think most people in the developed world are born into families with Religion?

I already know plenty about Catholicism, the Catholic Church, Christianity and nearly all forms of Religion as they are known. Do we have first-hand proof of these events? Thats a big fat noooooooo, my friend.

And please, use some full stops.

"seriously arrogant atheist"

Paddy345

And explain to me why it is only the atheists who can ever be arrogant and not the theists. You're not always in the right, you know.

Yes we do and we even have scientists who witnessed them and later converted, also learn about padre pio who has, also there is even a woman in damascaus about 20 years ago, i think video is still on youtube, many scientists examined here stigmata and even showed wounds in her hands, feet and side opening and later closing, this was proven. cmon

As far as I know, the human body does heal itself. Unless I'm mistaken.

/sarcasm

The whole basis of religion is faith! If religion was backed up by legions of textbooks, then it wouldn't be religon now would it? Religion is belief and hope, not a biology exam.

So Religion is Faith, which, in certain situations, can be defined as Belief without cause. And that is what most Religions are founded on. When I was Catholic, I saw no reason to believe in this 'God' or any of the ideals that went with it.