Why do people revere Che Guevara? He was a ruthless murderer

che is remebered as a icon because he showed that you can make a difference and you can change the world if you just stand up for what you believe in, which wont neccesarily work every time

he kinda reminds me of obama, without the whole killing people part

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]Read about The New Deal and The Great Society. More liberal ideals, more failures. :lol:PannicAtack

Reagan admitted what he did to the National Debt was the biggest regret he had.

I think real conservatives root themselves as libertarians (as I do) and say not necessarily "leave it to the private business sector" as much as we want it left to our OWN accord. I merely want the freedom to plan for my own retirement (NOT S/S), medical care (NOT MEDICARE), personal security, education, and dozens of other choices. I don't want Big Brother continuing to reach into my pocket because Joe Six-Pack can't plan for HIS future, or doesn't want to work, or doesn't want to take personal responsibility. Individual liberty is our most important right, not "shared prosperity":D

As for the Great Society, that was a failure. >_>

Not at all my, good man, I've read greatly into the New Deal. Social Security merely stands out to me as one of the largest Government failure systems created in that era which still continues it's highly flawed system of marching towards it's eventual complete destruction. When looking upon the New Deal as a whole, in economic terms it's pretty clear to me what led to the Great Depression, how the New Deal arguably prolonged the Depression, and ushered in a Welfare State that's existed in America ever since.

Now, to go as far as call the New Deal some sort of cloaked Facism, I think that's a link that's way too simplistic. But you can't dispute the comparison betten Mussolini's Facist Corporatism and the New Deal when you base it on how much they had in common, with the certain amount of intervention in the Economy by The State.

you know who i revere....Paul Revere.whipassmt

Good form, my good Sir! But, I'll take Israel Bissell FTW.:D

I think some people don't realise what Che really was. He was a Marxist revolutionary who led guerilla military campaigns. No question he killed and executed people however he is perhaps the epitome of what it is to practice what you preach.

He was extremely intelligent, he read extensively and from his studies and personal experiences in Latin America he formulated his political convictions. He was a qualified doctor, apparently a brilliant soldier and tactician and all these skills were fully used to act on his convictions.

In other words Che did not only hold strong moral and political convictions but he also had the courage, strength and backbone to act on them and devote his life to realising them.

The French philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre, whom Che talked with on several occasions described him as "not only an intellectual but also the most complete human being of our age."

In a time when hypocrisy of all forms is inescapable the life of Che Guevara is an example to us all, everyone can and should take something from it.

I'm kind of undecided on Che's beliefs. I agree fully with his ends however the means are the issue. It comes down to non-violent action versus violent action to effect the necessary radical change.

I don't own a Che t-shirt and I never will.

Unless I'm mistaken, George Washington wasn't a ruthless dictator who killed his own people. >_>PannicAtack

Didn't Jefferson shoot a traitor in the head on the White House lawn?

Actually I've decided I should visit Cuba now.

Didn't Jefferson shoot a traitor in the head on the White House lawn?

bradleybhoy

sounds more like Andrew Jackson to me.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Unless I'm mistaken, George Washington wasn't a ruthless dictator who killed his own people. >_>bradleybhoy

Didn't Jefferson shoot a traitor in the head on the White House lawn?

But for the topic...

You can get as many answers as there are people who where Che tees. Some people do it to be "edgy", some do it because that's what they believe, others because 'It's just a shirt' (I use this excuse when I wear my Oktoberfest faded tee), and whatever else people can come up to justify why they do what they do.

Personally, I think the shirt look nice. Would I wear one? Not necessarily. I don't believe revolution by violence is the only means to bring about change and anyone that does doesn't gain alot of respect for me. But the man stood by his beliefs and brought his beliefs into reality, you could say.

I've studied his guerrilla warfare tactics, even US Marine Corps Major Larry Bockman called some of his strategies "Brilliant". But the more I've read about the real life of Che Guevara, the more disturbing facts come to the surface.
-He routinely personally executed his own men who were accused of being "spies".
-He sent execution death squads to ruthlessly murder his own men who deserted, along with enemy troops as they tried to escape.
-He played a major role in getting Cuba the nuclear armed ballistic missles during the Cuban Missle Crisis and stated, "If they had been under Cuban control, we would have fired them off".
-He personally executed hundreds of Batista supporters and loyalists after the overthrow of the Cuban government.

So my question is: Why is his face all over T-Shirts I see at my friends' college campuses here in America? Do people actually know who he REALLY was, or is it just a symbol they think is cool?

IMO Guevara wasn't a military hero, a revolutionary (his idealogy failed) or a symbol to be praised. What do you think?

MarineJcksn

people like him because they see his face on tshirts.

then they go and BUY one of their own.