Why do people think they're bad ass when they hit the other sex?

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#1 -Big_Red-
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MEN HITTING WOMEN

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm not talking about when the violence is in self-defense, or reciprocal.I'm also not restricting this topic to domestic violence, I'm just talking about in general.

I'm talking about when The woman bares no threat whatsoever, and isn't trying to either. What I'm referring to is when he's just attacking her for basically no reason: "She's cheating on me", "She burnt my food", "She just an incompetent useless b**** i gotta beat some since into her" Lines like that are typical. I'm just curious as to why they're acting so tough/bad ass when they're beating someone who's not a threat, they're not trying to harm you, you're just being a bully, and bullies are usually cowards.

Albeit there are abusive men who aren't cowards, and actually are bad asses. Mike Tyson, and Stone Cold Steve Austin to name a couple.

Women Hitting Men

Ouch.

Yeah.

Yeah.

In order for a generally smaller weaker creature like most women, to hit a generally larger stronger creature like a man, something has to give. There has to be reason as to why they believe that they can do this, and then gloat, and say how bad ass, and tough they are, and tell they're friends about how they beat up a man. Something that can put the odds in their favor. Oh, that's right. They know that most men are taught from childhood to never physically harm a woman. So they're attacking someone who they are almost certain about a shadow of a doubt will not dare to strike them back. Some would even argue that it's in a mans instincts to protect women, though I don't know how true this is.

Isn't that the same thing? It's at least just as bad, or worse. With a man hitting a woman he's striking someone who usually has no chance of overpowering/beating him. I'd say about 40% of the time the nearby people will attack him, 50% of the time she'll get her male friends,and family members to "take care of him", and 10% just let him finish his assault, and either go back to him, or leave him.

And with a woman hitting a man she's hitting a someone who I'd have to say she'd have a 40% chance of getting to mercilessly wail on him, a 50% chance of being restrained after a few strikes. And a 10% chance of being attacked in return.

I don't get why society, and some people on this board look at it so differently. It's basically the same thing, both of attackers are still bullies. Just one of them is in a skirt.

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#3 wildcat2000
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Because they have to learn to bebetter... :|

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#4 Serraph105
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poor guy with worst black eye in history :(

we men are truly an abused bunch.

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#5 lonewolf604
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Some people are just irrational, hell maybe its a form of schizophrenia "they told me to do it".
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#6 my_mortal_coil
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With men I think it's obvious, but women tend to be more of an enigma.

When I think about it I see that it's not about physicality so much as rage overpowering reason, and that kicks in the fight or flight. Most men will "fight" and most women "flight" against a more formidable opponent.

I think it comes down to an adrenaline/testosterone (women have the male juice, too) thing. If we could control our hormones or emotional distress, war would cease to exist.

PS Oh and you have to take ego into account, too. Sometimes mental or perceptual self-preservation trumps the physical kind.

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#7 shoot-first
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They are probably just naturally violent. Take a nice look at nature and tell me it is not cruel.

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#8 MrGeezer
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Yes...you're absolutely right. It IS the exact same thing.

Men and women BOTH see someone that they know they can beat on without any serious repercussions, and then beat the hell out of that person in order to make themselves feel better.

What can I say? Being a bully/jackass is not exclusive to one particular sex.

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#9 Xeros606
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It's called "double standards" and it can be observed in so many other situations.
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#10 The-Tree
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I dunno, I don't hit women.

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#11 DigitalExile
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Lol, who the hell thinks "I'm so bad ass" while doing that? Where do you get that idea from TC?

Why does it happen? Derp, common sense says because some people are violent. Other people who are under all other circumstances non-violent get pushed to breaking point.

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Argh~ this type of question many argument~
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#13 rolfboy
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Don't buy into media sensationalism, virtually no man thinks of himself as badass for hitting a woman. The closest thing to an exception are cultures where men as a group are less tolerant of beligerant women (and pretty much do this overwhelmingly on the basis of the necessity to control stubborn women) and men who feel excessively powerless in their lives and even in the case of the latter, I truly beleive 19 out of 20 of them would be abusing their sons (if available) LONG before their wives or daughters. The sense of satisfaction of using physical coercion to discipline disobedient boys for men is practically nonexistant with women. Pretty much correct in regards to women. They wouldn't hit men if they thought we would honestly go ape**** on them.
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Lol, who the hell thinks "I'm so bad ass" while doing that? Where do you get that idea from TC?

Why does it happen? Derp, common sense says because some people are violent. Other people who are under all other circumstances non-violent get pushed to breaking point.

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I think he was trying to convey an ego boost in that part. There are certainly people who think they're (as the kids say) ''all that with a bag of potato chips'' after striking someone.

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#15 -Big_Red-
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[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

Lol, who the hell thinks "I'm so bad ass" while doing that? Where do you get that idea from TC?

Why does it happen? Derp, common sense says because some people are violent. Other people who are under all other circumstances non-violent get pushed to breaking point.

I'm very violent, and I don't act like that. I can control myself. Anyway, did you see the video. And let me give you two examples from my life. I remember when a girl in my highschool had attacked a male student, he stood there, and took it. Didn't strike back. When her suspensions were over she was actling like she was a bad ass because she beat up a guy who was no physical threat to her. Her female friends cheered her on, and the boy was scolded because he had got beaten by a girl. Anothe time n that same highschool two student were havin an arguement at lunch. The female threatened the male with violence, he responded by saying that he doesn't hit girls. She then basically said well that's too bad, I see no problem with beating you.
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#16 -Big_Red-
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Don't buy into media sensationalism, virtually no man thinks of himself as badass for hitting a woman. The closest thing to an exception are cultures where men as a group are less tolerant of beligerant women (and pretty much do this overwhelmingly on the basis of the necessity to control stubborn women) and men who feel excessively powerless in their lives and even in the case of the latter, I truly beleive 19 out of 20 of them would be abusing their sons (if available) LONG before their wives or daughters. The sense of satisfaction of using physical coercion to discipline disobedient boys for men is practically nonexistant with women. Pretty much correct in regards to women. They wouldn't hit men if they thought we would honestly go ape**** on them.rolfboy
Have you seen the Maury/Steve Wilkos show during a "My boyfriends abuses me" episode? Those men think like that.

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#17 hotfiree
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Yet they winge about equal rights - they only want the good parts of that though.
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#18 -Big_Red-
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I dunno, I don't hit women.

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Cool, just asking. What would you most likely do if your GF/Wife were to hit you?
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#19 rolfboy
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[QUOTE="rolfboy"]Don't buy into media sensationalism, virtually no man thinks of himself as badass for hitting a woman. The closest thing to an exception are cultures where men as a group are less tolerant of beligerant women (and pretty much do this overwhelmingly on the basis of the necessity to control stubborn women) and men who feel excessively powerless in their lives and even in the case of the latter, I truly beleive 19 out of 20 of them would be abusing their sons (if available) LONG before their wives or daughters. The sense of satisfaction of using physical coercion to discipline disobedient boys for men is practically nonexistant with women. Pretty much correct in regards to women. They wouldn't hit men if they thought we would honestly go ape**** on them.-Big_Red-

Have you seen the Maury/Steve Wilkos show during a "My boyfriends abuses me" episode? Those men think like that.

One, the women could be lying about the abuse to get back at their boyfriends while maintaining an aura of sympathy. Alternatively, the men (particularly if they are poor, urban men) could be blatently socially dysfunctional and the women consciously knew this when they went after him which then begs the question of how stupid and worthy of sympathy those women may be.
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#20 -Big_Red-
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[QUOTE="rolfboy"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"]

Don't buy into media sensationalism, virtually no man thinks of himself as badass for hitting a woman. The closest thing to an exception are cultures where men as a group are less tolerant of beligerant women (and pretty much do this overwhelmingly on the basis of the necessity to control stubborn women) and men who feel excessively powerless in their lives and even in the case of the latter, I truly beleive 19 out of 20 of them would be abusing their sons (if available) LONG before their wives or daughters. The sense of satisfaction of using physical coercion to discipline disobedient boys for men is practically nonexistant with women. Pretty much correct in regards to women. They wouldn't hit men if they thought we would honestly go ape**** on them.rolfboy
Have you seen the Maury/Steve Wilkos show during a "My boyfriends abuses me" episode? Those men think like that.

One, the women could be lying about the abuse to get back at their boyfriends while maintaining an aura of sympathy. Alternatively, the men (particularly if they are poor, urban men) could be blatently socially dysfunctional and the women consciously knew this when they went after him which then begs the question of how stupid and worthy of sympathy those women may be.

:|. True.
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#21 VaguelyTagged
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i don't what it has to do with the sexuality,you should feel free to hit everyone who deserves to be hit regardless of their gender.

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#22 Travo_basic
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I get sickened by people who hit children.
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#23 SapSacPrime
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Did anybody else think that it looked like this dude just wanted a high 5?

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#24 VaguelyTagged
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I get sickened by people who hit children.Travo_basic
i support this statement all the way.
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#25 -Big_Red-
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[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"]

Did anybody else think that it looked like this dude just wanted a high 5?

:lol: Maybe his hand is really dirty?
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#26 The-Tree
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[QUOTE="The-Tree"]

I dunno, I don't hit women.

-Big_Red-

Cool, just asking. What would you most likely do if your GF/Wife were to hit you?

Tell her to calm the **** down, it's not like it'd really hurt.

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#27 Enid_Green
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I think people consider hitting a woman so awful for the same reason you don't hit children or someone in a wheelchair. Men are usually built physically stronger than women, and it's not really a fair fight.

That said, it pisses me off too when I hear a woman bragging about hitting a guy. Physical abuse is the ultimate demonstration of lack of respect.

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#28 parkurtommo
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You can tell right away that most of the ppl posting here are men (including myself). Women are not inferior to men, they just lack confidence. They may work like hell but they don't think that they did well, where as men will brag about there work and exploit it. I'm not saying that all women are like this but many are. About the topic; I think these ppl bully because they do not fear the person they are bullying, this is, they see that the person shows no threat (I'm just giving my opinion).

When this happens, they feel free (don't we all love freedom?) and then do what free people do: whatever they want. Which in man's case (generally) would be violence. Portugal has a saying (I live in Portugal): A tua liberdade acaba quando a do outro começa (Your liberty ends when the other's begins).

I think its bull**** when ppl say that domestic violence (and other violence) derives from abuse in the bully's past (of course there are many cases where this is true), I think that most violent ppl have a lack of fear.

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#29 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="Travo_basic"]I get sickened by people who hit children.VaguelyTagged
i support this statement all the way.

lol you said in your previous post that you should hit ppl when they deserve it, regardless of there gender, that includes children.

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#30 bebopoutlaw3gun
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Tell her to calm the **** down, it's not like it'd really hurt.

The-Tree

I guess you've never reallyreally pissed off a girl. :P

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You can tell right away that most of the ppl posting here are men (including myself). Women are not inferior to men, they just lack confidence. They may work like hell but they don't think that they did well, where as men will brag about there work and exploit it. I'm not saying that all women are like this but many are. About the topic; I think these ppl bully because they do not fear the person they are bullying, this is, they see that the person shows no threat (I'm just giving my opinion).

When this happens, they feel free (don't we all love freedom?) and then do what free people do: whatever they want. Which in man's case (generally) would be violence. Portugal has a saying (I live in Portugal): A tua liberdade acaba quando a do outro começa (Your liberty ends when the other's begins).

I think its bull**** when ppl say that domestic violence (and other violence) derives from abuse in the bully's past (of course there are many cases where this is true), I think that most violent ppl have a lack of fear.

parkurtommo

You could say they abuse out of fear, too. Lots of guys get worried that a girl will build some self confidence and realize they can do better, so they beat the crap out of them.

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#32 bebopoutlaw3gun
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[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"][QUOTE="Travo_basic"]I get sickened by people who hit children.parkurtommo

i support this statement all the way.

lol you said in your previous post that you should hit ppl when they deserve it, regardless of there gender, that includes children.

Children is an age thing not a gender thing...

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Because they're stupid. /thread
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#34 daleerin24
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Violence doesnt make anyone bad a** , and it solves nothing and I despise it.

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#35 VaguelyTagged
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"] i support this statement all the way.bebopoutlaw3gun

lol you said in your previous post that you should hit ppl when they deserve it, regardless of there gender, that includes children.

Children is an age thing not a gender thing...

:P yeah,besides i didn't think of children when i made the first post.
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#36 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"] i support this statement all the way.bebopoutlaw3gun

lol you said in your previous post that you should hit ppl when they deserve it, regardless of there gender, that includes children.

Children is an age thing not a gender thing...

Yes, but he said ppl (that means everyone)....

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#37 RBerry82
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Not to say that it's okay or anything, but most men who hit women were either physically abused as children or witness their own fathers hitting their mothers, or a combination of both; when they see their most important role models doing it, they grow up thinking it's okay.
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#38 BreakTheseLinks
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Deep seeded psychological issues? Passed experiences of the abuser getting abused? Or maybe they are just nuts.
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#39 parkurtommo
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no sorry he said everyone, oops lol :oops:

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#40 VaguelyTagged
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no sorry he said everyone, oops lol :oops:

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see? we all make mistakes.
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#41 aransom
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Deep seeded psychological issues? Passed experiences of the abuser getting abused? Or maybe they are just nuts.BreakTheseLinks
Or maybe they're just a--holes, who need to have their lights punched out via the legal system.

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Just to clarify, women do it so much more than men, it is just not documented as much. Women also do more passive aggressive stuff like yelling really loud. Pms is not an excuse, it just makes them feel uncomfortable, and then they react to that uncomfortable by being violent. A professor in my class who is a lawyer said women are 90 percent of the time are the perpetrator. But men just happen to be able to do more damage if they hit back, etc.

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#43 -Big_Red-
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[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="The-Tree"]

I dunno, I don't hit women.

The-Tree

Cool, just asking. What would you most likely do if your GF/Wife were to hit you?

Tell her to calm the **** down, it's not like it'd really hurt.

Okay buddy..... You keep thinking that. I just hope she never hits you ;).
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#44 -Big_Red-
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Just to clarify, women do it so much more than men, it is just not documented as much. Women also do more passive aggressive stuff like yelling really loud. Pms is not an excuse, it just makes them feel uncomfortable, and then they react to that uncomfortable by being violent. A professor in my class who is a lawyer said women are 90 percent of the time are the perpetrator. But men just happen to be able to do more damage if they hit back, etc.

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Oh trust me, i already know that, though i tried to make this topic gender neutral.
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#45 -Big_Red-
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Yet they winge about equal rights - they only want the good parts of that though.hotfiree
Oh brougt this point up to my mom and sister as to why I would hit a girl if she hit me. They think I'm a woman beater now:roll:.
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#46 Aku101
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I feel good about my self when i hit kids and women

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#47 -Big_Red-
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I feel good about my self when i hit kids and women

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Noowwwwwww..... Why is that?
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#48 Aku101
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[QUOTE="Aku101"]

I feel good about my self when i hit kids and women

-Big_Red-

Noowwwwwww..... Why is that?

Because they hit me first.

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#49 mitu123
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I feel good about my self when i hit kids and women

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Keep that pimp hand strong as well.
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#50 XilePrincess
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The only time it's right to hit the other sex (or the same sex, for that matter) is if you're being hurt or attacked and need to get away. Women who brag about abusing their boyfriends or husbands sicken me. It's like they take pride in the double standard.