why do religious people Hate Evolution?

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#1 kirk4ever
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i have not read all the religious texts so dont say go read..i work and study from 6 am to 10 pm so :(..i mean does it say in the the books that it is wrong?and if its not mentoned..then alot of things are not there so why deny evolution? it it really a BAD thing?

so what that you evolved? you are still an animal...you kiss others butt while having sex like animals..humans are there that drink piss and poo and alot of other things like animals ..humans kill for something they want..most of the things are still like animals...i'm sure 90% of the ppl who deny it are going by group think ..i know its there opinion and respect that and also i dont 100% agree with evolution but dont bash or deny it...so dont hate or spam this topic..just say why do you deny it so Roughly and toughly..if its not there..say"hey its your opinion.." dont go "im not a monkey you ^*)^#)^$"

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#2 SquishyPumpkins
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6am to 10pm? What are you, a slave?
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6am to 10pm? What are you, a slave?SquishyPumpkins

scholl is 8 till 3 then work 4-8 i get home at 9..but enough about me..lets talk about the topic :P

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#4 Buffalo_Soulja
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Because to them it's more than an opinion. You may as well ask why does anybody argue.
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#5 Mr_Mohawk
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The majority of religious people, or at least the rational ones, realise that evolution is not a challenge to religion. all it does is show that there is no literal truth in Genesis. Pope Pius XII (I think that's right, I'm thinking of the guy who was pope after the second world war) officially declared that catholicism would accept evolution.

Fundamentalists hate evolution, because it shows that the bible is not 100% literally true. These people are morons. Matthew quotes a prophet during the birth narratives that doesn't exist, so how can it be literally true?

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#6 LJSEXAY
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They don't.:|
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#7 bebopoutlaw3gun
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Cause it contradicts creationism.
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#8 rimnet00
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I'm religious. I don't hate evolution. I could equally ask why Athiests believe all religious people are closed minded?
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#10 LJSEXAY
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Cause it contradicts creationism.bebopoutlaw3gun

Pst...it doesn't.

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#11 NikoBellic
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I'm religious. I don't hate evolution. I could equally ask why Athiests believe all religious people are closed minded?rimnet00

most of them are, they get offended when they are corrected about something in the bible. such as decendents of adam and eve.

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#12 Mr_Mohawk
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[QUOTE="bebopoutlaw3gun"]Cause it contradicts creationism.LJSEXAY

Pst...it doesn't.

It does if you take genesis literally.

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#13 Food_Nipple
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simple: it proves them wrong
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#14 rimnet00
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[QUOTE="rimnet00"]I'm religious. I don't hate evolution. I could equally ask why Athiests believe all religious people are closed minded?NikoBellic

most of them are, they get offended when they are corrected about something in the bible. such as decendents of adam and eve.

Did you take a poll?

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#15 Herrick
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Why Do Religious People Hate Evolution?kirk4ever

Well, not all of them hate it. The ones who hate it or dislike it do so because it challenges or even disproves their religious beliefs. Some people don't care about facts and such...only what they want to believe.

I remember reading about this scientist who believed in some scientific theory for many years. When he was finally proven wrong at some conference by a younger scientist, he stood up and said, "I've been wrong all these years". He admitted he was wrong.

This is the kind of mindset I like to have. All I care about is what is real, regardless of if it's convenient for me or not.

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#16 LJSEXAY
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It does if you take genesis literally.

Mr_Mohawk

And you know for a fact that all religious take genesis literally? Seems this topic is doing what religious are accused of in this thread.

And actually taking it literally there is still no contradiction.

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#17 LJSEXAY
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simple: it proves them wrongFood_Nipple

Ok...you're up. Go.

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#18 J-link
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I have no idea.. I'm a christian, yet I believe in evolution. I mean, it makes complete sense.
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#19 NikoBellic
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[QUOTE="NikoBellic"]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]I'm religious. I don't hate evolution. I could equally ask why Athiests believe all religious people are closed minded?rimnet00

most of them are, they get offended when they are corrected about something in the bible. such as decendents of adam and eve.

Did you take a poll?

Are you really close minded?

oh and no, that was off the top of my head :P

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#20 kirk4ever
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[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="NikoBellic"]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]I'm religious. I don't hate evolution. I could equally ask why Athiests believe all religious people are closed minded?NikoBellic

most of them are, they get offended when they are corrected about something in the bible. such as decendents of adam and eve.

Did you take a poll?

Are you really close minded?

oh and no, that was off the top of my head :P

we are talkig about the ones that are not rational ..the ones that dont say"its your opinion i respect that" but the ones that say"f&%you evolution is (&%&"

p.s source engine >>>>>> cryengine 2.0

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#21 Mr_Mohawk
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[QUOTE="Mr_Mohawk"]

It does if you take genesis literally.

LJSEXAY

And you know for a fact that all religious take genesis literally? Seems this topic is doing what religious are accused of in this thread.

And actually taking it literally there is still no contradiction.

You have read genesis 2, havn't you? Where all the animals are created by God to find a helper for Adam? How is that not contradicted by evolution?

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#22 Food_Nipple
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[QUOTE="Food_Nipple"]simple: it proves them wrongLJSEXAY

Ok...you're up. Go.

No thanks. If you actually think about it, you'll get what I'm saying and I really don't care enough about this topic to elaborate.

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I consider myself religious , and don't hate the Evolution theory .. in fact , its quite a sensible explanation for how we are today.I believe in God and all that , but evolution also.
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You have read genesis 2, havn't you? Where all the animals are created by God to find a helper for Adam? How is that not contradicted by evolution?

Mr_Mohawk

Can you prove that God was not the guiding force behind the evolution? No. So there is no problem inbelieving both.

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#25 LJSEXAY
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No thanks. If you actually think about it, you'll get what I'm saying and I really don't care enough about this topic to elaborate.

Food_Nipple

Oh I get what you're saying. It's just not true.;)

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#26 rimnet00
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[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="NikoBellic"]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]I'm religious. I don't hate evolution. I could equally ask why Athiests believe all religious people are closed minded?NikoBellic

most of them are, they get offended when they are corrected about something in the bible. such as decendents of adam and eve.

Did you take a poll?

Are you really close minded?

oh and no, that was off the top of my head :P

What would make your deduce I am closed minded for retorically refuting your conjecture?

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I think it's they believe evolutionism takes power away from their God. I think it doesn't.

But if you analyse the evolution of some species, like the humans, there are some mistakes no one explains, which some people take advantage of when disbelieving evolution.

I personally believe more in the Ancient Astronaut theory, than the normal tales of the evolution of man. But who am i to say that's right, eh? ;)

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#29 Mr_Mohawk
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[QUOTE="Mr_Mohawk"]

You have read genesis 2, havn't you? Where all the animals are created by God to find a helper for Adam? How is that not contradicted by evolution?

LJSEXAY

Can you prove that God was not the guiding force behind the evolution? No. So there is no problem inbelieving both.

Look, if you are sensible there is obviously no conflict. There is only conflict if you take it literally, i.e. word for word.

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[QUOTE="NikoBellic"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="NikoBellic"]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]I'm religious. I don't hate evolution. I could equally ask why Athiests believe all religious people are closed minded?kirk4ever

most of them are, they get offended when they are corrected about something in the bible. such as decendents of adam and eve.

Did you take a poll?

Are you really close minded?

oh and no, that was off the top of my head :P

we are talkig about the ones that are not rational ..the ones that dont say"its your opinion i respect that" but the ones that say"f&%you evolution is (&%&"

p.s source engine >>>>>> cryengine 2.0

i will respect the opinions of others,

PS. source engine was incredibly limited the day it came out, i got sick of load times in between maps. why couldn't of half-life 2 just streamed everything in as you went foward threw the single player campaign, crysis has sandbox gameplay.

farcry had much biggermaps then half-life 2 did, Crysis is photo realistic, extremely huge and they even give you a map maker with it. So CryEngine's lighting, shadows, technology>Source.

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#31 LJSEXAY
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Look, if you are sensible there is obviously no conflict. There is only conflict if you take it literally, i.e. word for word.

Mr_Mohawk

But that is not what the topic is about. It's a generalization....and an incorrect one at that.

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[QUOTE="NikoBellic"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="NikoBellic"]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]I'm religious. I don't hate evolution. I could equally ask why Athiests believe all religious people are closed minded?rimnet00

most of them are, they get offended when they are corrected about something in the bible. such as decendents of adam and eve.

Did you take a poll?

Are you really close minded?

oh and no, that was off the top of my head :P

What would make your deduce I am closed minded for retorically refuting your conjecture?

are you sure you used the term conjecture correctly?

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#33 rimnet00
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[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="NikoBellic"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="NikoBellic"]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]I'm religious. I don't hate evolution. I could equally ask why Athiests believe all religious people are closed minded?NikoBellic

most of them are, they get offended when they are corrected about something in the bible. such as decendents of adam and eve.

Did you take a poll?

Are you really close minded?

oh and no, that was off the top of my head :P

What would make your deduce I am closed minded for retorically refuting your conjecture?

are you sure you used the term conjecture correctly?

Of course.

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Evidence of such?
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#35 Herrick
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[QUOTE="Mr_Mohawk"]

It does if you take genesis literally.

LJSEXAY

And you know for a fact that all religious take genesis literally? Seems this topic is doing what religious are accused of in this thread.

Actually, he never said that all religions believe in the events of Genesis literally.

And actually taking it literally there is still no contradiction. Can you prove that God was not the guiding force behind the evolution? No. So there is no problem inbelieving both.

LJSEXAY

This is kind of confusing. Which aspects of evolution do you believe?



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[QUOTE="LJSEXAY"][QUOTE="Mr_Mohawk"]

It does if you take genesis literally.

Herrick

And you know for a fact that all religious take genesis literally? Seems this topic is doing what religious are accused of in this thread.

Actually, he never said that all religions believe in the events of Genesis literally.

And actually taking it literally there is still no contradiction. Can you prove that God was not the guiding force behind the evolution? No. So there is no problem inbelieving both.

LJSEXAY

This is kind of confusing. Which aspects of evolution do you believe?



*sigh* I was not referring to the guy I was talking with.....and it had nothing to do with genesis. I was talking about the original posts implications.

Nothing confusing about it...and I'm not dividing evolution up. Evolution does not disprove God. Simple as that.:|

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#37 NikoBellic
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[QUOTE="NikoBellic"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="NikoBellic"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="NikoBellic"]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]I'm religious. I don't hate evolution. I could equally ask why Athiests believe all religious people are closed minded?rimnet00

most of them are, they get offended when they are corrected about something in the bible. such as decendents of adam and eve.

Did you take a poll?

Are you really close minded?

oh and no, that was off the top of my head :P

What would make your deduce I am closed minded for retorically refuting your conjecture?

are you sure you used the term conjecture correctly?

Of course.

correct me if i am wrong but the meaning to Conjecture is linked to mathematics on wikipedia. and i think you spelled retorical wrong. is it not rhetorical?

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#38 Herrick
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*sigh* I was not referring to the guy I was talking with.....and it had nothing to do with genesis. I was talking about the original posts implications.LJSEXAY

I'm not sure what you're talking about here. You directly quoted Mr. Mohawk, and instead of actually responding to what he said, you deflected it and asked another irrelevant question.

Nothing confusing about it...and I'm not dividing evolution up. Evolution does not disprove God. Simple as that.:|

LJSEXAY

True, but completely irrelevant. You said that literally believing in Genesis does not contradict evolution. Can you explain that?

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[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="NikoBellic"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="NikoBellic"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="NikoBellic"]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]I'm religious. I don't hate evolution. I could equally ask why Athiests believe all religious people are closed minded?NikoBellic

most of them are, they get offended when they are corrected about something in the bible. such as decendents of adam and eve.

Did you take a poll?

Are you really close minded?

oh and no, that was off the top of my head :P

What would make your deduce I am closed minded for retorically refuting your conjecture?

are you sure you used the term conjecture correctly?

Of course.

correct me if i am wrong but the meaning to Conjecture is linked to mathematics on wikipedia. and i think you spelled retorical wrong. is it not rhetorical?

First time seeing a typo? and yes, conjecture is still being used correctly. I'm sorry to have used big words.

Conjecture
1.the formation or expression of an opinion or theory without sufficient evidence for proof. 2.an opinion or theory so formed or expressed; guess; speculation. 3.Obsolete. the interpretation of signs or omens. -verb (used with object) 4.to conclude or suppose from grounds or evidence insufficient to ensure reliability. -verb (used without object) 5.to form conjectures.

I suggest using a dictionary next time you need to look up a word, instead of an encyclopedia.

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I don't hate it but I don't believe in it either.
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#41 LJSEXAY
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[QUOTE="LJSEXAY"]

*sigh* I was not referring to the guy I was talking with.....and it had nothing to do with genesis. I was talking about the original posts implications.Herrick

I'm not sure what you're talking about here. You directly quoted Mr. Mohawk, and instead of actually responding to what he said, you deflected it and asked another irrelevant question.

Nothing confusing about it...and I'm not dividing evolution up. Evolution does not disprove God. Simple as that.:|

LJSEXAY

True, but completely irrelevant. You said that literally believing in Genesis does not contradict evolution. Can you explain that?

I was talking about the topic with Mohawk. He seemed to understand that. Just because I quoted the person I was TALKING WITH does not me I was referring to something he said.:roll:

I responded to your question. That would make your quest completely irrelevant. Why ask it then?:|

Why should I explain that. It stands as what it is. Why do you feel the need to believe that religious people can't believe in both?

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#42 Herrick
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I was talking about the topic with Mohawk. He seemed to understand that. Just because I quoted the person I was TALKING WITH does not me I was referring to something he said.:roll:LJSEXAY

Well, the thread topic is why do religious people hate evolution but that's not what you were responding to. Mohawk said a literal interpretation of Genesis is contradictory with evolution, then you said something like, "What makes you think all religious people believe in it literally?" So you were responding to what he said.

I responded to your question. That would make your quest completely irrelevant. Why ask it then?LJSEXAY

No, you did not respond to my question. I never said anything about evolution disproving the existence of God. Once again, you deflected the question with something that had nothing to do with it. I have no quest...not sure what you're talking about there.

Why should I explain that? It stands as what it is.LJSEXAY

:lol:


Why do you feel the need to believe that religious people can't believe in both?

LJSEXAY

Because one cannot believe that the earth and life was created in six days but evolved over billions of years. This is like asking why can't a woman be half pregnant. To clear things up, I never said that one cannot believe in evolution and God. All I'm asking is how can one literally believe in Genesis and believe evolution.

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[QUOTE="LJSEXAY"]I was talking about the topic with Mohawk. He seemed to understand that. Just because I quoted the person I was TALKING WITH does not me I was referring to something he said.:roll:Herrick

Well, the thread topic is why do religious people hate evolution but that's not what you were responding to. Mohawk said a literal interpretation of Genesis is contradictory with evolution, then you said something like, "What makes you think all religious people believe in it literally?" So you were responding to what he said.

I responded to your question. That would make your quest completely irrelevant. Why ask it then?LJSEXAY

No, you did not respond to my question. I never said anything about evolution disproving the existence of God. Once again, you deflected the question with something that had nothing to do with it. I have no quest...not sure what you're talking about there.

Why should I explain that? It stands as what it is.LJSEXAY

:lol:


Why do you feel the need to believe that religious people can't believe in both?

LJSEXAY

Because one cannot believe that the earth and life was created in six days but evolved over billions of years. This is like asking why can't a woman be half pregnant. To clear things up, I never said that one cannot believe in evolution and God. All I'm asking is how can one literally believe in Genesis and believe evolution.

#1. I suggest you follow the course of the conversation because you have clearly become confused as to the discussion.

#2. The initial question wasn't the question about evolution. See number one again.

#3. Yes and? The statement I made was very clear. Again see number one.

#4. You are aware that the religious know the difference between man's six days and God's six days. They really aren't the same thing. Perhaps one should first familiarize themselves with what is believed before making inaccurate statements and arguing them as fact.;)

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#44 Herrick
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#1. I suggest you follow the course of the conversation because you have clearly become confused as to the discussion.

#2. The initial question wasn't the question about evolution. See number one again.

#3. Yes and? The statement I made was very clear. Again see number one.

#4. You are aware that the religious know the difference between man's six days and God's six days. They really aren't the same thing. Perhaps one should first familiarize themselves with what is believed before making inaccurate statements and arguing them as fact.;)

LJSEXAY

I know what the topic is about. You've been unable to answer my questions coherently. The only valid point you've made is number 4. Finally you attempt to answer my question. Since you say that "God's six days" are different, then they are not literally six days, which shows that you do not literally believe in the events of Genesis. Thanks for finally answering the question, but what took you so long? 8)

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I know what the topic is about. You've been unable to answer my questions coherently. The only valid point you've made is number 4. Finally you attempt to answer my question. Since you say that "God's six days" are different, then they are not literally six days, which shows that you do not literally believe in the events of Genesis. Thanks for finally answering the question, but what took you so long? 8)

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What exactly are your questions...other than not understanding the intial conversation with Mr Mohawk?

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#46 foxhound_fox
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Religious people don't hate evolution... you are generalising. A majority of the people who take the book of Genesis as fact hate evolution.
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#47 Herrick
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What exactly are your questions...other than not understanding the intial conversation with Mr Mohawk?

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Read the lower half of page 2.

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#48 LJS9502_basic  Online
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

What exactly are your questions...other than not understanding the intial conversation with Mr Mohawk?

Herrick

Read the lower half of page 2.

I did. The only thing you asked was answered. Vis a vis the parts of evolution that were believed due to your confusion.

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#49 Herrick
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I did. The only thing you asked was answered. Vis a vis the parts of evolution that were believed due to your confusion.

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Yup, he finally answered it a few posts up.

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#50 -Wicked_Sick-
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That is a fallacy.