Why do so many OTers bash the president?

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#51 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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i dont have a president i have a prime minister.

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Same basic thing, I believe.
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#52 ariz3260
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It comes with the terrority

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#53 IAMTHEJOKER88
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Where i am from, 'bash'ing someone means something else entirely... so i found the thread title amusing.

Also, why do your lives all suck then when you are one of the most superior nations economically.

Come to Britain... its pretty good over here!

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#54 T_P_O
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Come to Britain... its pretty good over here!IAMTHEJOKER88

Haha, good one.

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#56 IAMTHEJOKER88
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[QUOTE="IAMTHEJOKER88"]Come to Britain... its pretty good over here!T_P_O

Haha, good one.

Sounds like a better living than over there.

plus if you emigrate, you get a free house and benefits.

Does America have a national health insurance yet? Or mass transit system? Or the cultural history of over a thousand years.... oh.

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#57 Snipes_2
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I think you are clearly talking about another OT.

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I agree. I would like to see this other Off Topic.
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#58 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="T_P_O"]

[QUOTE="IAMTHEJOKER88"]Come to Britain... its pretty good over here!IAMTHEJOKER88

Haha, good one.

Sounds like a better living than over there.

plus if you emigrate, you get a free house and benefits.

Does America have a national health insurance yet? Or mass transit system? Or the cultural history of over a thousand years.... oh.

FACEPALM//////////////////////////// -> (YOUR FACE)

Doesn't T_P_O Live in England?
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#59 Snipes_2
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What I've noticed about American politics is that everything is about how you phrase things. Just take the health care crap as an example. Obama promoted national healthcare during his campaign, it was one of the main topics of discussion...but when he tried to implement it, people got all sceptical because the republicans started to call it socialist. I don't know why there seems to be so much general ignorance involved in American politics, but the crap the republicans and the conservatives are spouting would be laughed at and ridiculed in Sweden...not for being of a different opinion, but simply because it's unintelligent filth.Osaka-06
You...Do realize Ignorant unintelligent filth spewing Republicans and Conservatives weren't the only ones against the Healthcare Reform right?
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#60 T_P_O
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Sounds like a better living than over there.

plus if you emigrate, you get a free house and benefits.

Does America have a national health insurance yet? Or mass transit system? Or the cultural history of over a thousand years.... oh.

FACEPALM//////////////////////////// -> (YOUR FACE)

IAMTHEJOKER88

America doesn't have national health insurance yet. That said, I live in England, have done since birth, and the only good parts are the low university cost and the NHS. Mainly, I was just being playful.

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#61 theone86
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What are you talking about? Off Topic worships Obama. This place is chalk full of left-wing sheep.

Elephant_Couple

Being in roughly the same political spectrum =/= worshipping. I hear more left-wing criticism of Obama than I did of Bush during his presidency, wouldn't that be a stronger case for Republicans being sheep?

Where i am from, 'bash'ing someone means something else entirely... so i found the thread title amusing.

Also, why do your lives all suck then when you are one of the most superior nations economically.

Come to Britain... its pretty good over here!

IAMTHEJOKER88

Sounds good, smuggle me in.

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#62 T_P_O
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What are you talking about? Off Topic worships Obama. This place is chalk full of left-wing sheep.Elephant_Couple

Don't be silly, sheep don't hold political alignments or cognitive thought of that nature.

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#63 Elephant_Couple
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[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]What are you talking about? Off Topic worships Obama. This place is chalk full of left-wing sheep.T_P_O

Don't be silly, sheep don't hold...cognitive thought...

Precisely.

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#64 theone86
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[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]What are you talking about? Off Topic worships Obama. This place is chalk full of left-wing sheep.T_P_O

Don't be silly, sheep don't hold political alignments or cognitive thought of that nature.

So Republicans are sheep then?

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#65 IAMTHEJOKER88
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[QUOTE="IAMTHEJOKER88"]

Sounds like a better living than over there.

plus if you emigrate, you get a free house and benefits.

Does America have a national health insurance yet? Or mass transit system? Or the cultural history of over a thousand years.... oh.

FACEPALM//////////////////////////// -> (YOUR FACE)

T_P_O

America doesn't have national health insurance yet. That said, I live in England, have done since birth, and the only good parts are the low university cost and the NHS. Mainly, I was just being playful.

get out.... jks. naw i was just crusin for an argumentative american.

but honestly, how could you say that those are the only good parts? that is just unbelieveable. are you sure its teh country or just you that is at fault?

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#66 PsychoRedFox666
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Same reason the whole world does. It's fun and puts a face on problems.

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#67 T_P_O
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Precisely.Elephant_Couple

Oh you. If they don't hold cognitive thought, then they can't identify as left or right wing.

get out.... jks. naw i was just crusin for an argumentative american.

but honestly, how could you say that those are the only good parts? that is just unbelieveable. are you sure its teh country or just you that is at fault?IAMTHEJOKER88

It's probably just my pessimism to be honest. Sometimes I feel like my hometown is really dire, but at other times I think it's a really beautiful and friendly place.

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#68 IAMTHEJOKER88
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[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]

What are you talking about? Off Topic worships Obama. This place is chalk full of left-wing sheep.

theone86

Being in roughly the same political spectrum =/= worshipping. I hear more left-wing criticism of Obama than I did of Bush during his presidency, wouldn't that be a stronger case for Republicans being sheep?

Where i am from, 'bash'ing someone means something else entirely... so i found the thread title amusing.

Also, why do your lives all suck then when you are one of the most superior nations economically.

Come to Britain... its pretty good over here!

IAMTHEJOKER88

Sounds good, smuggle me in.

Just hop on the back of a truck in Calais, France, with all the other Afghans, Iraqis and Iranians and you'll be in. Though if you are in the EU, they'll roll out the red carpet for you.

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#69 theone86
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]

Being in roughly the same political spectrum =/= worshipping. I hear more left-wing criticism of Obama than I did of Bush during his presidency, wouldn't that be a stronger case for Republicans being sheep?

[QUOTE="IAMTHEJOKER88"]

Where i am from, 'bash'ing someone means something else entirely... so i found the thread title amusing.

Also, why do your lives all suck then when you are one of the most superior nations economically.

Come to Britain... its pretty good over here!

IAMTHEJOKER88

Sounds good, smuggle me in.

Just hop on the back of a truck in Calais, France, with all the other Afghans, Iraqis and Iranians and you'll be in. Though if you are in the EU, they'll roll out the red carpet for you.

If I could get to France I probably wouldn't need to get to Britain, no offense intended, both actually seem pretty good. To get to either one from the U.S., though, sounds tasking.

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Update the country? :? Last I checked, Bush was bashed and praised just as much as Obama. It comes with the office of President.MAILER_DAEMON
Bush was bashed because he was a horrible president. How does a person take a $230 billion budget surplus and turn it into a $1.3 trillion budget deficit?

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#71 IAMTHEJOKER88
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[QUOTE="IAMTHEJOKER88"]

[QUOTE="theone86"]

Sounds good, smuggle me in.

theone86

Just hop on the back of a truck in Calais, France, with all the other Afghans, Iraqis and Iranians and you'll be in. Though if you are in the EU, they'll roll out the red carpet for you.

If I could get to France I probably wouldn't need to get to Britain, no offense intended, both actually seem pretty good. To get to either one from the U.S., though, sounds tasking.

France... not great from what my family tells me. Though, admittedly, their perspective from Versailles is somewhat limited.

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[QUOTE="herpderp9000"]wat. He 'doesn't controll the economy"? He controlls it as much as anyman can. And don't tell me you didn't blame the past president for every problem the nation faced. The President SHOULD get blamed for this nations problesms, it's his repsonibility.

He inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit, and the Republicans won't let him raise taxes or do anything that could possibly help in any way.
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#73 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]What are you talking about? Off Topic worships Obama. This place is chalk full of left-wing sheep.T_P_O

Don't be silly, sheep don't hold political alignments or cognitive thought of that nature.

i think that was his point.
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#74 T_P_O
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[QUOTE="T_P_O"]

[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]What are you talking about? Off Topic worships Obama. This place is chalk full of left-wing sheep.surrealnumber5

Don't be silly, sheep don't hold political alignments or cognitive thought of that nature.

i think that was his point.

It can't be his point if the statement is contradictory to it: "sheep don't hold political alignments", therefore, they cannot be left wing. Anyway, sardonic debate aside, I was jokingly taking the "sheep" as per the livestock for a little bit of fun. Nothing serious.
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#75 GrandJury
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Because he is the president.
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#76 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="T_P_O"]

Don't be silly, sheep don't hold political alignments or cognitive thought of that nature.

T_P_O

i think that was his point.

It can't be his point if the statement is contradictory to it: "sheep don't hold political alignments", therefore, they cannot be left wing. Anyway, sardonic debate aside, I was jokingly taking the "sheep" as per the livestock for a little bit of fun. Nothing serious.

they dont hold"cognitive thought" so they just walk the path they are told by their shepherd. they dont hold political alignments they just follow their masters

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#77 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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To answer the OP, the economy sucked from '08 to '10. Obama has been in office from '08 to '10. Though, people fail to remember that from '02 to '09 was Bush's responsibility.
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#78 T_P_O
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they dont hold"cognitive thought" so they just walk the path they are told by their shepherd. they dont hold political alignments they just follow their masterssurrealnumber5

A shepherd directs a flock of sheep. They don't listen, they don't have the capacity to listen and understand human orders. There'd be no need for a herding dog, or any sort of training to be a shepherd if they just listened and took the order. In a way, they're forced to do so - like Dog's law. The dog only understands what it's done wrong when you hit it.

Also, no, the sheep cannot be "left-wing" sheep in your statement, as they don't hold a political alignment (ie, left-wing). This means that left-wing sheep cannot exist per the argument, just sheep.It's not a good analogy to use on any political alignment, it'd be better suited for authoritarian ruled, yet passive societies.

Anyway, why did you take this further? I was having a little fun. o_ó

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#79 Banjo_Kongfooie
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[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]

What are you talking about? Off Topic worships Obama. This place is chalk full of left-wing sheep.

theone86

Being in roughly the same political spectrum =/= worshipping. I hear more left-wing criticism of Obama than I did of Bush during his presidency, wouldn't that be a stronger case for Republicans being sheep?

Where i am from, 'bash'ing someone means something else entirely... so i found the thread title amusing.

Also, why do your lives all suck then when you are one of the most superior nations economically.

Come to Britain... its pretty good over here!

IAMTHEJOKER88

Sounds good, smuggle me in.

Agreed Republican's praised Bush when he was for bigger gov. then Obama is [Patriot Act anyone?]

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#80 lamprey263
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"Why do so many OTers bash the president?" the conservative right oppose President Obama for many reasons, it's expected, but liberals are pretty disillusioned by him too for pandering too much to the right
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#81 the_new_guy_92
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

Most gov. meetingsare behind closed doors, do you hate the military for their secret trials?

airshocker

We don't elect the military.

He also lied about getting rid of pork in our bills.

He said Obamacare wouldn't raise premiums, but they are and will continue until everything in Obamacare starts in 2014.

So please don't talk about Obama as if he is Christ reincarnated. He's a liar just like the rest.

Wait you just contradicted yourself pretty hard there... I'll wait to see if anybody else spotted that.
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#82 the_new_guy_92
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[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"]Update the country? :? Last I checked, Bush was bashed and praised just as much as Obama. It comes with the office of President.jaydough

Bush was bashed because he was a horrible president. How does a person take a $230 billion budget surplus and turn it into a $1.3 trillion budget deficit?

War and tax cuts are expensive
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#83 optiow
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He hardly controls the economy consumers do and he wants to update our country but everyone shrieks communist or socialist...

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I bash the president because he is the president of an imperialistic, bourgeois democratic, capitalist country.