Why do so many people say the real world after University is more tough?

That doesn't really make sense to me. If somebody is working full time, going to university, paying tutition and other fees, and is young with basically no support from family. How exactly if the real world more rough? That seems to be as shitty as it gets. I have a few friends right now working full time and going to school full time, and worrying about financial problems all the time. They seem like they're literally losing their minds as of recently.

this assumes everyone has the same copy paste college experience.

Everyone's financial situation is different. I put myself through uni, but never really felt that poor. The first three years after uni, by contrast, I was utterly skint the whole time.  While at uni, loans are available and you're protected a bit from certain taxes, rental prices and stuff... and when that stops you really feel it. On the positive side though, it does get better.

It helps them cope with not being accepted into University.

People who tend to compensate a lower skill set/intellect with discipline and effort hit a massive brick wall. In real life, they burn up within few years and have to deal with the fact that they wasted years attempting to be someone who they can't be.

That doesn't really make sense to me. If somebody is working full time, going to university, paying tutition and other fees, and is young with basically no support from family. How exactly if the real world more rough? That seems to be as shitty as it gets. I have a few friends right now working full time and going to school full time, and worrying about financial problems all the time. They seem like they're literally losing their minds as of recently.

The_Lipscomb

When they talk about real world vs university they are making the assumption that you your parents are paying for you.

Basically the real world is when you are 100% on your own.  And yes that is tougher.

I would guess most people arent working full time as a student.  

It isn't really. They only say that to feel superior to kids still in University.

this assumes everyone has the same copy paste college experience.

wis3boi

I think what they mean by this is when you graduate Highschool not so much college. When you are in higschool there is a lack of responsibilities and worries that you end up experiencing after graduating. Bills, more accountability, more responsibility, and lack of second chances for the most part.

finding a job is very difficult even after graduation from what a lot of people told me

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this assumes everyone has the same copy paste college experience.

Diablo-B

You don't stick your dick in crazy.  Or at least don't give crazy any of your personal information

Because it is, though both are easy.

It's not tough, it just requires some experience and dedication. It's only tough when you make it tough for yourself.

Living it hard is being deprived from education and needed essentials to survive. 

Maybe It's tougher because you now have to start doing things for yourself. Once the parents stop paying your way that's when most people start to relize that independance isn't free nor easy....especially in the beginning stages of spreading your wings.

this assumes everyone has the same copy paste college experience.

wis3boi

That doesn't really make sense to me. If somebody is working full time, going to university, paying tutition and other fees, and is young with basically no support from family. How exactly if the real world more rough? That seems to be as shitty as it gets. I have a few friends right now working full time and going to school full time, and worrying about financial problems all the time. They seem like they're literally losing their minds as of recently.

The_Lipscomb

And you can't just state a close to worst case university situation and say that is as bad as it gets. Your example is nothing, a walk in the park, compared to a single mother with a couple of kids, limited education, and working multiple minimum wage jobs just to keep her children alive. Try doing that for a couple of decades.

totally agree. working full-time as opposed to going to school AND trying to make a living (if you're not living with your folks) is much easier.4myAmuzumament

you got a point there, too much to juggle right there

Not everyone lands a good job

It helps them cope with not being accepted into University.

Communist_Soul

Because for many it is.  I didn't expect it would be... but here we are.  My career is far more demanding of me than my studies were. 

It isn't really. They only say that to feel superior to kids still in University.

Aljosa23

And I'd say a lot of it depends on your job.  I feel I have at least a decent perspective on this situation as I was just talking to someone in their late 30s/early 40s who has gone back to school full time and quit their job.

 They were discussing how difficult it was because in school they're learning something completely new everyday, taking it home practicing it into the night etc.  At many jobs you do the exact same thing everyday, with little variation and once you get home you leave work behind you.

Now ofc, high level executive jobs, or in cases where someone owns their own business where work is basically a never-ending thing and they're pretty much always on the clock or working even when not at work, that's a completely different story.   

As for people who work standard 40 hr work weeks and nothing more, and still claim the real world is so much tougher, no not really.

As for people who work standard 40 hr work weeks and nothing more, and still claim the real world is so much tougher, no not really.

TacticalDesire

Yes, it really is, and I'm saying this as I'm in a p. rigorous engineering undergrad program. Life right now is CAKE compared to working (have taken a a semester off at two different points to work, in addition to working summers - they def. leave you with less time and energy).

A lot of kids in college are privileged. Just focus on school only. But people like me and some others have to work and go to school. So we believe that is bs.MgamerBD

Genuine respect, man.

I have a few friends right now working full time and going to school full time, and worrying about financial problems all the time. They seem like they're literally losing their minds as of recently.

The_Lipscomb

The economy right now is crap. Many kids are coming out of college either unable to find work, or they end up taking jobs they could have gotten with a high school diploma. Also, you're going to realize that education really isn't valued all that highly in America. Most employers don't give a crap where you went to school or what you studied. You are not a special snowflake. You may even come to the realization that college was a complete waste of time and money. 

The economy right now is crap. Many kids are coming out of college either unable to find work, or they end up taking jobs they could have gotten with a high school diploma. Also, you're going to realize that education really isn't valued all that highly in America. Most employers don't give a crap where you went to school or what you studied. You are not a special snowflake. You may even come to the realization that college was a complete waste of time and money. 

bigfoot2045

Not everyone lands a good job

Mercenary848

even with a degree

Because for many it is.  I didn't expect it would be... but here we are.  My career is far more demanding of me than my studies were. 

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