Why do some people really beilive MJ was a rapist?

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#51 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="feryl06"]

OJ Simpson wasn't charged NOT GUILTY----but we all know that's not the case. ;P I assume those same people who think he was innocent, also believed Simpson is an upstanding wonderful citizen. :P

BiancaDK

You assume wrong, then? =]

Agreed, We can't assume anything, every case is based on it's own merit.:)

You are actually married to Jandurin, or you are joking? ;)

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#52 Gooeykat
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to realese a bit of the inner child in him and play with the kidblazingkiller63
not the best choice of words

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#53 blazingkiller63
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[QUOTE="blazingkiller63"]to realese a bit of the inner child in him and play with the kidGooeykat

not the best choice of words

I have no regret.

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#54 DarkGamer007
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Because he admitted to sleeping (in this case sleep did not mean sex) in the same bed as children, while he was holding hands with a child. /thread.

bsman00

people here apparently think thats ok.......

Yeah that is disgusting and wrong, but whether or not any molestation went on is still unknown, but for all we know, both of the alleged victims could have made the accusations for money.

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#55 Yodas_Boy
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[QUOTE="AFraud"]

"Thinked" isn't even a real word simple jack.

BiancaDK
So... ? Some people have subpar grammar for various reasons, you know. Is it really that enjoyable to bash other people over the internet, big guy?

Yes.
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#56 BiancaDK
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You are actually married to Jandurin, or you are joking? ;)SolidTy
Well, he is married to me, so i must be married to him. =] Its e-marriage tho. Unfortunately for me, he is already spoken for "IRL". =| Sorry for the slight derail, TC.
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#57 lol_haha_dead
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[QUOTE="Yodas_Boy"][QUOTE="BiancaDK"][QUOTE="AFraud"]

"Thinked" isn't even a real word simple jack.

So... ? Some people have subpar grammar for various reasons, you know. Is it really that enjoyable to bash other people over the internet, big guy?

Yes.

I wish I could say something really mean to you right now, but I would probaly get modded.
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#58 BiancaDK
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[QUOTE="BiancaDK"][QUOTE="AFraud"]

"Thinked" isn't even a real word simple jack.

Yodas_Boy
So... ? Some people have subpar grammar for various reasons, you know. Is it really that enjoyable to bash other people over the internet, big guy?

Yes.

In this case, i guess ignorance really is bliss then, huh.
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#59 LJS9502_basic  Online
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[QUOTE="Yodas_Boy"][QUOTE="BiancaDK"] So... ? Some people have subpar grammar for various reasons, you know. Is it really that enjoyable to bash other people over the internet, big guy?lol_haha_dead
Yes.

I wish I could say something really mean to you right now, but I would probaly get modded.

Why be mean?

Anyway they believe that because they feel differently about the evidence than you do. /thread

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#60 cousin_eddy
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they like to assume?
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#61 II_Seraphim_II
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The truth is none of us know all the facts, so we have to assume that the jurors did their job appropriately, and he was found not guilty. he was tried and found guilty by people who were given all the facts, so who are we to claim they were wrong, when we know close to nothing of the evidence shown and testimony?
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#62 blazingkiller63
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they like to assume?cousin_eddy

Some people are just really bored and want to make celeberties look like a paedophile, crazies, etc

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#63 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]You are actually married to Jandurin, or you are joking? ;)BiancaDK
Well, he is married to me, so i must be married to him. =] Its e-marriage tho. Unfortunately for me, he is already spoken for "IRL". =| Sorry for the slight derail, TC.

Oh, gotcha.:P Good ol E-marriage's, hopefully you guys don't end up at e-divorce court. You two make a good e-couple.8)

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#64 Tactica1supris3
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[QUOTE="bsman00"][QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

Because he admitted to sleeping (in this case sleep did not mean sex) in the same bed as children, while he was holding hands with a child. /thread.

DarkGamer007

people here apparently think thats ok.......

Yeah that is disgusting and wrong, but whether or not any molestation went on is still unknown, but for all we know, both of the alleged victims could have made the accusations for money.

He said they sleep in his bed and he sleeps on the floor. While it is inappropriate it isn't the same thing, and isn't child molestation.

My biggest issue when this is brought up is why no one wants to hold the parents accountable for letting their children do this. Let's all gang up on Jackson because he's rich, famous, and should have known better. I'm sure these parents let their kids talk to strangers and take candy from strange men who pull up alongside in unmarked white vans. A complete failure in logic...a complete failure.

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#65 bsman00
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[QUOTE="cousin_eddy"]they like to assume?blazingkiller63

Some people are just really bored and want to make celeberties look like a paedophile, crazies, etc

MJ did that to him self... i couldnt make brad pitt out to be a pedo... cause brad pitt does not act like a pedo
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#66 Mercenary848
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They really believe he did it, honestly there is a lot of evidence to support both sides. He is dead now, honestly I think we should bury it with him. If he did not do it thank goodness and be glad not everyone turned there back on him, if he really did do it there is nothing we an do now. Anyway let people mourn how they choose.

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#67 LJS9502_basic  Online
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The truth is none of us know all the facts, so we have to assume that the jurors did their job appropriately, and he was found not guilty. he was tried and found guilty by people who were given all the facts, so who are we to claim they were wrong, when we know close to nothing of the evidence shown and testimony?II_Seraphim_II
Just to clear something up...juries are not necessarily given all the facts. In general...not talking about any specific case.

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#69 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]The truth is none of us know all the facts, so we have to assume that the jurors did their job appropriately, and he was found not guilty. he was tried and found guilty by people who were given all the facts, so who are we to claim they were wrong, when we know close to nothing of the evidence shown and testimony?LJS9502_basic

Just to clear something up...juries are not necessarily given all the facts. In general...not talking about any specific case.

Yes, but they were given more facts than the rest of us, so their opinion is probably more educated than ours (on the matter at hand).
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#70 BiancaDK
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Oh, gotcha.:P Good ol E-marriage's, hopefully you guys don't end up at e-divorce court. You two make a good e-couple.8)SolidTy
Haey, thanks! =] Sorry for the slight derail again, TC. I will distribute 10 lashes by the nine-tailed cat to my own backhide now.
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Bandwagon >.>
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#72 blazingkiller63
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]Oh, gotcha.:P Good ol E-marriage's, hopefully you guys don't end up at e-divorce court. You two make a good e-couple.8)BiancaDK
Haey, thanks! =] Sorry for the slight derail again, TC. I will distribute 10 lashes by the nine-tailed cat to my own backhide now.

so your british?

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#73 69ANT69
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Because they are sick and believe the media and their dumb stories, all Michael ever wanted was for the media to back off and now even when the legend is no longer with us, they insist on making up stupid stories.
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#74 mattisgod01
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can people stop saying he was "Found Innocent" he was found "Not guilty"...there is a difference.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]The truth is none of us know all the facts, so we have to assume that the jurors did their job appropriately, and he was found not guilty. he was tried and found guilty by people who were given all the facts, so who are we to claim they were wrong, when we know close to nothing of the evidence shown and testimony?II_Seraphim_II

Just to clear something up...juries are not necessarily given all the facts. In general...not talking about any specific case.

Yes, but they were given more facts than the rest of us, so their opinion is probably more educated than ours (on the matter at hand).

Actually I'd argue that we got more facts since it didn't have to be approved as evidentuary.(sp)

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#76 LJS9502_basic  Online
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]Oh, gotcha.:P Good ol E-marriage's, hopefully you guys don't end up at e-divorce court. You two make a good e-couple.8)BiancaDK
Haey, thanks! =] Sorry for the slight derail again, TC. I will distribute 10 lashes by the nine-tailed cat to my own backhide now.

Now that is a picture.....>__>

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#77 BiancaDK
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[QUOTE="BiancaDK"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]Oh, gotcha.:P Good ol E-marriage's, hopefully you guys don't end up at e-divorce court. You two make a good e-couple.8)blazingkiller63

Haey, thanks! =] Sorry for the slight derail again, TC. I will distribute 10 lashes by the nine-tailed cat to my own backhide now.

so your british?

No (?) Why-eh... Why do you think that im british? Because i apologized two times in succession? Is that a british thing? is there some kind of innuendo going on here, of which i am entirely oblivious to?
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#78 thenorminator
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as a parent of a 2 there is no way anyone could pay my wife and i off if our son came to us saying what these kids said about MJ. only a person who loves money more than their kid. i think MJ's foolish and strange life style did not help his case. but IMHO Michael was setup because his was rich and had far too many kids around him.

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#79 blazingkiller63
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Because they are sick and believe the media and their dumb stories, all Michael ever wanted was for the media to back off and now even when the legend is no longer with us, they insist on making up stupid stories.69ANT69

The pain of being acused of something you never did, mustave ruined teh poor guys life or maybe he did do it, still....ruined his life.

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#80 SSJ_Nega
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I don't know if he was a pedophile, but I'm not going to call him one. I'm not saying he isn't a pedophile, but he was found not guilty, so I'm not going to call him a pedo.

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#81 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Just to clear something up...juries are not necessarily given all the facts. In general...not talking about any specific case.

LJS9502_basic

Yes, but they were given more facts than the rest of us, so their opinion is probably more educated than ours (on the matter at hand).

Actually I'd argue that we got more facts since it didn't have to be approved as evidentuary.(sp)

Im pretty sure some of the "facts" we got were BS or irrelevant or the prosecution would have pushed hard to have them admitted into evidence.
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There is an awful lot to take into account about the case against him.. alot of people are to lazy to look into it and so go with the media, it's the world we live in. But there is still a minority that whole heartedly believe in the evidence against him based on there own opinions, and frankly they are entitled to there opinions even if some of us don't agree. I personnally do not believe he done anything.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] Yes, but they were given more facts than the rest of us, so their opinion is probably more educated than ours (on the matter at hand).II_Seraphim_II

Actually I'd argue that we got more facts since it didn't have to be approved as evidentuary.(sp)

Im pretty sure some of the "facts" we got were BS or irrelevant or the prosecution would have pushed hard to have them admitted into evidence.

I've been both a witness and a juror. Trust me...it doesn't work that way. Both instances made me jaded over the court system.

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[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="Darthmatt"]

My question is, wouldnt it have been cheeper to take the original case to court, and be vindicated if found innocent than pay off the kids family? I mean if he had nothing to hid, or was 100% innocent, I would think the legal process would cost less than $10 million. That is, unless he knew he couldnt win that case...

SolidTy

I might buy the "they were in it for the money" argument if we weren't talking about three separate cases many years apart. And if Jackson didn't admit to sharing a bed with the children. And if they didn't find books containing photos of children's genitals in his bed room. And if his sister didn't call him a pedophile on national television. And if Jordan Chandler didn't correctly describe a birth mark on Jackson's penis And if Jackson hadn't established a pattern of erratic behavior.

La Toya was not part of the any of the Jackson's lives, and His Sister La Toya RETRACTED her statement publically, she also cllaimed her husband made her say it to get in the news.

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, you weren't there, end of story.

Like OJ? lol Anyways, I don't know and it doesn't involve me. Either way the children's parents are **** up for doing what they did, whether Jackson did anything or not.

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#86 LJS9502_basic  Online
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Before Michael Jackson died, 75% of the people defending him on here would be either neutral or saying they don't like him...dreDREb13
Things change when people die. Can't figure out why though....

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Before Michael Jackson died, 75% of the people defending him on here would be either neutral or saying they don't like him...dreDREb13
LMAO! Soooo true!
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#88 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Actually I'd argue that we got more facts since it didn't have to be approved as evidentuary.(sp)

LJS9502_basic

Im pretty sure some of the "facts" we got were BS or irrelevant or the prosecution would have pushed hard to have them admitted into evidence.

I've been both a witness and a juror. Trust me...it doesn't work that way. Both instances made me jaded over the court system.

The truth is none of us know all the facts, but we have a legal system that tries to determine one's guilt/innocence. It may not be perfect, but its pretty reliable. He was found innocent by the law, and so I'm willing to bet he is innocent. The US legal system, isn't "THAT" incompetent. I'm willing to bet (no, I don't have stats) that since the introduction of interracial juries and other measures to prevent biased verdicts, that the US Justice system has gotten it right more often than not.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] Im pretty sure some of the "facts" we got were BS or irrelevant or the prosecution would have pushed hard to have them admitted into evidence.II_Seraphim_II

I've been both a witness and a juror. Trust me...it doesn't work that way. Both instances made me jaded over the court system.

The truth is none of us know all the facts, but we have a legal system that tries to determine one's guilt/innocence. It may not be perfect, but its pretty reliable. He was found innocent by the law, and so I'm willing to bet he is innocent. The US legal system, isn't "THAT" incompetent. I'm willing to bet (no, I don't have stats) that since the introduction of interracial juries and other measures to prevent biased verdicts, that the US Justice system has gotten it right more often than not.

Innocent people are convicted....guilty are set free on technicalities. Money talks....nah still jaded.