Why do you actually believe what you believe?

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#1 Brawler-Dude
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Actually a follow up theard to the recent "Being Atheist makes you depressed" there was, no duh, going to be many different views on the matter at hand. But even with every forum, the one thing that never actually comes up, why do you believe in it? It's the question never asked, so now I'm asking.

Me, I just don't care. If there is anything bigger then us, ok, if not, ok, I just don't care. what happens happens. To many things on the mind in the here and now to worry about that, so I just really don't care. Whatever happens happens. my reason, well I said it in there, I'm to focused n the here and now, why worry about that?

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#2 CRS98
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It appeals to my senses.
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#3 deactivated-5acfa3a8bc51d
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i like senseless threads lol. keep them comming I believe everything and anything is possible and i embrace that
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#4 Chris_Williams
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man, if you worry about why people do what they do or believe in what they believe in then your going to give yourself a headache, just chill and enjoy the ride

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#5 mindstorm
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I actually don't believe what I believe just for the purpose of confusing myself all the more. I get a kick out of it. But really, yes I do actually believe that a God-man died the death that I deserve and rose from the grave so that I myself might one day too.
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#6 Brawler-Dude
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man, if you worry about why people do what they do or believe in what they believe in then your going to give yourself a headache, just chill and enjoy the ride

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To be honest, I was just bored, so I thought up a thread

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#7 Brawler-Dude
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i like senseless threads lol. keep them comming I believe everything and anything is possible and i embrace thatplaymynutz
I will keep them coming :p meh I kind of know its a pointless thread, I won't lie, also as I said in the other post, I was bored, and it did seema lot more amusing of a thread in y head

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#8 Celldrax
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My (lack of) beliefs are what they are because it's what makes sense to me.

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man, if you worry about why people do what they do or believe in what they believe in then your going to give yourself a headache, just chill and enjoy the ride

Chris_Williams
PROBLEM #1 Should we be meek stick to ourselves and simply try to survive? or should we try to change the world for the greater good? i struggle with this question everyday
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#11 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

man, if you worry about why people do what they do or believe in what they believe in then your going to give yourself a headache, just chill and enjoy the ride

playmynutz
PROBLEM #1 Should we be meek stick to ourselves and simply try to survive? or should we try to change the world for the greater good? i struggle with this question everyday

Honestly at the end of the day, people only think about themselves first and others second and also the world will never change, people don't start thinking about changing the world until a tragic event happens. If you really think about our world, sh*t gets depressing.
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#12 AussieePet
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I believe in what i believe cause you believe in me to believe in you so i believe to believe what i believe cause you believe what i believe
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#13 bub166
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I *don't* believe what I *don't* believe because I find religion to be senseless and outdated now that we have much more reasonable explanations coming from modern science. Of course, that's only a very, very brief summary. There are plenty of reasons why I don't buy in to any of the current religions.

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#14 Philokalia
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I believe Christianity partly due to being convinced by it, partly due to being fulfilled by it and mostly by God and his grace which I believe I have received.

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#15 Ghost_702
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Well, I read a book about a guy name Harry Potter and all of the great things he's done. Now I worship him and pray to him all the time because the books say he's magical. Whenever I accomplish something of my own doing, I thank him for enabling me to do said thing. No one can challenge my stance or disprove him because it's written in a book and other people all over the world worship him as well.
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#16 dkdk999
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[QUOTE="playmynutz"]i like senseless threads lol. keep them comming I believe everything and anything is possible and i embrace that

senseless ? What is that supposed to mean in this context ? Also what evidence do you have that anything and everything is possible ?
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#17 lx_theo
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I believe what I believe because everything else failed to pass my test of common sense and basic logic.

The End

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#18 mindstorm
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I believe Christianity partly due to being convinced by it, partly due to being fulfilled by it and mostly by God and his grace which I believe I have received.

Philokalia
As a note, I love this response and agree wholeheartedly.
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#19 deactivated-59f03d6ce656b
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I believe what i believe due to logic and scientific evidence. And don't believe in things due to lack of logical sense and/or scientific evidence.
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#20 sAndroid17
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What i believe makes sense to me

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#21 Communist_Soul
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I take what I believe as absolute truths.

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#22 Jolt_counter119
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I believe that humanity doesn't know and we will never know. I like to think there is meaning to this existence and whether I die and it's oblivion I still think there is a greater meaning to existence itself. But as of now I feel comfort in knowing that I am a part of this universe and exist, but I guess that's easy for me to say being born in a first world country in this day and age.

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Actually a follow up theard to the recent "Being Atheist makes you depressed" there was, no duh, going to be many different views on the matter at hand. But even with every forum, the one thing that never actually comes up, why do you believe in it? It's the question never asked, so now I'm asking.

Me, I just don't care. If there is anything bigger then us, ok, if not, ok, I just don't care. what happens happens. To many things on the mind in the here and now to worry about that, so I just really don't care. Whatever happens happens. my reason, well I said it in there, I'm to focused n the here and now, why worry about that?

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Depends on the belief in question. In some cases, it's because I'm knowledgeable enough to know that the popular alternative belief(s) are just plain wrong. In some cases, it's because I'm ignorant about the relevant facts pertaining to the issue, and therefore I don't know enough to realize that I'm flatout wrong. In other cases, "right" or "wrong" are total gray areas, so all I have left to go on is "what feels right to me". In any case, I freely admit to being ignorant and emotionally biased. And I think that's one of the first steps towards Not Being A Jackass.
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#24 shadow_Metroid
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I don't believe anything I believe.

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#25 MrGeezer
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And I'm sure many have seen this, but here it is again...http://www.cracked.com/article_15759_10-things-christians-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on.html.
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I only folow logic and facts, so I'm an agnostic atheist. I will remain an atheist until proven otherwise, but by the same token, if there is a god I don't think it's within human capacity to understand or figure out...so i choose not to believe and leave it at that.

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#27 MrGeezer
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I only folow logic and factswis3boi
I like to tell myself the same thing.
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I'm a nihilist, so I don't believe in anything, but instead try to take everything at face value.
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#29 ShadowsDemon
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No, I believe in my religion, and that there is a God who's son died for mankind.
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#30 CreasianDevaili
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I have never discussed my beliefs seriously with a single soul online or in person. So yeah, I must!
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nothing but when i die i know i'll be in strip clubs and beer volcanos

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#32 freek666
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Because if God revealed himself to me right now I would say "that's nice" and continue on with my life.
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Because I spent almost a decade of my life (it started in high school) searching for a religious answer to my existentialist question (the perennial "why?") that ended up showing me I already knew the answer, I was just being an idiot about it. This answer being... and children tend to understand this best: time doesn't exist (what matters is the moment, the "now"), what pleases me is the most important thing in the universe (whether that be physical, emotional or interpersonal) and life isn't worth living unless you are having fun. It's almost too f*cking simple... yet since fully embracing it, I have come into my "self" again, and am very happy with my life and am willing to put in the effort to change it for the better (where certain things cause stress or depression). I also spent a good four years (out of a total five) in university using my post-secondary education as a spring board for this futile quest. I wasted my time and my money on religious studies (and to a lesser extent Asian studies and Japanese language/culture) instead of pursuing something that I truly loved (astronomy and physics) or something that might have actually been useful for me professionally (engineering) that would give me an income to permit pursuing what I love in my free time (video games, cars, etc.). But don't take my word for it. Everyone comes to this conclusion eventually... just in their own way and own time. Unfortunately for some it ends up coming around way too late.
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15+ years of spiritual searching and evaluation have brought to believe there is a higher power, but that higher power shouldn't be compartmentalized by religion. Religion is ritual and politics, and not much spirituality.

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The cosmological argument

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#36 BiancaDK
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i have no idea complimented by a side-dish of no human way of finding out this was great
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I base mine mostly on facts, there may be a god there may not, we have virtually no valid evidence to come to a logical conclusion.

Secondly I'd say i am humble enough to accept this, some people can't, they have to feel their life has some 'higher purpose.' Just sit back relax, be a good person and enjoy the ride, don't get too worked up over death and judgement by some 'god.'

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#38 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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Because a bunch of teenagers on the Internet convinced me
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Me, I just don't care. If there is anything bigger then us, ok, if not, ok, I just don't care. what happens happens. To many things on the mind in the here and now to worry about that, so I just really don't care. Whatever happens happens. my reason, well I said it in there, I'm to focused n the here and now, why worry about that?Brawler-Dude
Sounds like me. I don't feel like putting most of my thought into thinking there's actually something watching over everything in the universe, because of how ilogical it sounds, but I also don't put really any thought into how everything started either because there's truly no way for us to find out (atm I guess).
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Because I spent almost a decade of my life (it started in high school) searching for a religious answer to my existentialist question (the perennial "why?") that ended up showing me I already knew the answer, I was just being an idiot about it. This answer being... and children tend to understand this best: time doesn't exist (what matters is the moment, the "now"), what pleases me is the most important thing in the universe (whether that be physical, emotional or interpersonal) and life isn't worth living unless you are having fun. It's almost too f*cking simple... yet since fully embracing it, I have come into my "self" again, and am very happy with my life and am willing to put in the effort to change it for the better (where certain things cause stress or depression). I also spent a good four years (out of a total five) in university using my post-secondary education as a spring board for this futile quest. I wasted my time and my money on religious studies (and to a lesser extent Asian studies and Japanese language/culture) instead of pursuing something that I truly loved (astronomy and physics) or something that might have actually been useful for me professionally (engineering) that would give me an income to permit pursuing what I love in my free time (video games, cars, etc.). But don't take my word for it. Everyone comes to this conclusion eventually... just in their own way and own time. Unfortunately for some it ends up coming around way too late.Zeviander

This sound like a real selfish way to live Z. What pleases you is the most important thing in all of the universe?

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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Because I spent almost a decade of my life (it started in high school) searching for a religious answer to my existentialist question (the perennial "why?") that ended up showing me I already knew the answer, I was just being an idiot about it. This answer being... and children tend to understand this best: time doesn't exist (what matters is the moment, the "now"), what pleases me is the most important thing in the universe (whether that be physical, emotional or interpersonal) and life isn't worth living unless you are having fun. It's almost too f*cking simple... yet since fully embracing it, I have come into my "self" again, and am very happy with my life and am willing to put in the effort to change it for the better (where certain things cause stress or depression). I also spent a good four years (out of a total five) in university using my post-secondary education as a spring board for this futile quest. I wasted my time and my money on religious studies (and to a lesser extent Asian studies and Japanese language/culture) instead of pursuing something that I truly loved (astronomy and physics) or something that might have actually been useful for me professionally (engineering) that would give me an income to permit pursuing what I love in my free time (video games, cars, etc.). But don't take my word for it. Everyone comes to this conclusion eventually... just in their own way and own time. Unfortunately for some it ends up coming around way too late.sayyy-gaa

This sound like a real selfish way to live Z. What pleases you is the most important thing in all of the universe?

Whats wrong with wanting to live a lfie of personal fufillment? As long as your joy does not come at the expense of others I see no problem in living a life in pursuit of happiness then to spend it worried about whether or not your going to burn in hell for 'sinning.'

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I believe in what i believe cause you believe in me to believe in you so i believe to believe what i believe cause you believe what i believe AussieePet
Ahhh, it all makes sense to me now...

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I stopped being a Christian because I disagreed with many of the teachings of the church and pretty much all other organised religions. I then stopped believing in god altogether because the idea of god makes no sense.

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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Because I spent almost a decade of my life (it started in high school) searching for a religious answer to my existentialist question (the perennial "why?") that ended up showing me I already knew the answer, I was just being an idiot about it. This answer being... and children tend to understand this best: time doesn't exist (what matters is the moment, the "now"), what pleases me is the most important thing in the universe (whether that be physical, emotional or interpersonal) and life isn't worth living unless you are having fun. It's almost too f*cking simple... yet since fully embracing it, I have come into my "self" again, and am very happy with my life and am willing to put in the effort to change it for the better (where certain things cause stress or depression). I also spent a good four years (out of a total five) in university using my post-secondary education as a spring board for this futile quest. I wasted my time and my money on religious studies (and to a lesser extent Asian studies and Japanese language/culture) instead of pursuing something that I truly loved (astronomy and physics) or something that might have actually been useful for me professionally (engineering) that would give me an income to permit pursuing what I love in my free time (video games, cars, etc.). But don't take my word for it. Everyone comes to this conclusion eventually... just in their own way and own time. Unfortunately for some it ends up coming around way too late.sayyy-gaa

This sound like a real selfish way to live Z. What pleases you is the most important thing in all of the universe?

Criticizing someone for actually having a spiritual journey and coming to a good conclusion. That's real open minded of you.

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I don't actually believe what I believe.

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#47 Zeviander
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This sound like a real selfish way to live Z. What pleases you is the most important thing in all of the universe?sayyy-gaa
I wasn't aware that what pleases me had to be just for me (making other people I love happy gives me even greater pleasure than doing something for myself), or that being selfish was a bad thing. At least I am able to realize that I am a selfish being and can embrace who I am.
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[QUOTE="AussieePet"]I believe in what i believe cause you believe in me to believe in you so i believe to believe what i believe cause you believe what i believe hydralisk86

Ahhh, it all makes sense to me now...

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part of it is conviction, and part of it is simply experience from life.

I was raised to take the long-term view of things. Past your own life. What will you leave behind?

For instance, growing up i got excellence in religious classes, as well as in my mathmatics classes.

When i was getting close to college i loved and wanted to do two things. Teach history and social sciences to high schoolers or go learn how to be an Engineer. I chose engineering. Had the option to go do a Master's (of which i'm graduating this Saturday) and opted to do it in Occupational and Environmental Health and Safety. I still voraciously read history books and stay mindful of bias in it.

Right now i'm looking for work around the world and sent about 5 PhD applications around the US for PhD programs ranging from Public Health, Material Sciences, and Industrial Engineering.

The reason? have choices. Why? because it's not just about your pleasure, it's about preparing a foundation to support your children.

You may think "how dull. How droll. How boring. How cruel" but i think of it as a sort of investment, becasue at least for me. I want a family one day, you plan that now not right when you have one.

Ultimately i believe in building something useful to people, and enjoy my life for however long it may be. I wanna keep traveling the world, and meeting new people. My physical concious existence is pretty much more or less capped at 100 years and i've currently spent a quarter of it. enjoy yourself but be mindful of your responsilbities.

God and religion is there, and is a part of me still, and i still suspect that i'll die believing in some sort of diety. and yes, i cannot help sometimes feeling insulted by other peoples words sometimes. With that said though, it's not the only thing that makes me - me. and i have grown very tired and a thicker skin to the insults that can be thrown at me. At this point i've pretty much heard it all, and i've taken the stance of not even bothering to argue with them. Only time i ever seem to be stirred to speak up is when someone decides to turn their insults into justification to harm me/fellow believers or want to inhibit my ability to practice my religion.

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#50 alexside1
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Criticizing someone for actually having a spiritual journey and coming to a good conclusion. That's real open minded of you.

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Open minded isn't "People agreeing with me" as you implied with the "good conclusion" which itself arguably opinionated. He can criticizize if he wants to. Deal with it or piss off.