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That's silly, no thread that involved religion ever finished peacefuly. And you're saying you normally wouldn't start a religion thread but you JUST DID!
Bah, whatever, I'm atheist but I'm very open to debate, as long as it's logical and proof is being used. I'm atheist because that seems the only logical truth, and abrahamic religions have been disproved countless times.
Because I believe it makes the most sense. And i feel a strong presence of Christ in my life everyday. It is something that is there to confort you whenever you need comfort. ferrari2001
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I'm a Catholic Christian, and I believe in it because I've never really had a choice. My parents sent me to private school since I was in Kindergarten, and being a normal Kindergartener, I just believed everything that people told me. It's just kind of stuck with me.
I'm a Catholic Christian, and I believe in it because I've never really had a choice. My parents sent me to private school since I was in Kindergarten, and being a normal Kindergartener, I just believed everything that people told me. It's just kind of stuck with me.
Sora529
Now that your older do you stay with it because you feel you have to or because you truly believe?
[QUOTE="hockeyjunkie28"]can i join you? *grabs pepsi and hotdog*Ugh...what i was going to say was...
*grabs popcorn and awaits the upcoming religion war*
legend26
Sure! *pulls up a chair for legend 26*
Because of my experiences I can't see how God can't be influencing my life in seeing where it is heading. I've seen God do amazing things both in my life and those around me. I've seen people's lives changed in ways that can only be through God. I've seen people rely on God during the deepest possible pain and come away with a deep joy in knowing that God can be glorified through our struggles.
Besides all of that, I honestly haven't seen any view of the world that makes sense like the one of what the Bible teaches. Many other views sound great at times but they often contradict each other in application of that view.
I believe in science, because it is interesting, and exciting research can be done.
Or we could just say God made everything. End of story.
Also because most religions seem a little silly (God = Tooth Fairy... what's the difference?), and have nothing (zero evidence) to back them up. Just the word of a thousand year old book.
You just made this into a 100+ post thread. And you can have science and religion.I believe in science, because it is interesting, and exciting research can be done.
Or we could just say God made everything. End of story.Also because most religions seem a little silly (God = Tooth Fairy... what's the difference?), and have nothing (zero evidence) to back them up. Just the word of a thousand year old book.
awsss
[QUOTE="Sora529"]I'm a Catholic Christian, and I believe in it because I've never really had a choice. My parents sent me to private school since I was in Kindergarten, and being a normal Kindergartener, I just believed everything that people told me. It's just kind of stuck with me.
Hulkness
Now that your older do you stay with it because you feel you have to or because you truly believe?
I really don't think about it much. I definately don't feel an obligation to be Christian (besides the fact that it's my name :roll: ). I suppose that I do really believe, but I'm anything but a religious freak. I don't talk about my religion much outside of religion class.
I believe in science, because it is intesting, and exciting research can be done.
Or we could just say God made everything. End of story.Also because most religions seem a little silly (God = Tooth Fairy... what's the difference?), and have nothing (zero evidence) to back them up. Just the word of a thousand year old book.
awsss
Because one believes that the world was created by a loving God should be motivating for us to learn more about his creation. To say that someone who believes in a Biblical Creation does not do "interesting and exciting research" is ignorant. I personally know of several chemists and medical doctors who love to study their fields.
I don't get why many say there is no evidence for any belief other than Evolution... if there was no evidence for other beliefs then no one would believe in them (though the evidence is out of this world at times).
The honest boring truth is:
My mom taught me to believe in God, so I believe in God.
But it's just a belief, I'm not too crazy about religion in general. Too much happens when you indulge into the subject of religion, war for example.
[QUOTE="awsss"]I believe in science, because it is intesting, and exciting research can be done.
Or we could just say God made everything. End of story.Also because most religions seem a little silly (God = Tooth Fairy... what's the difference?), and have nothing (zero evidence) to back them up. Just the word of a thousand year old book.
mindstorm
Because one believes that the world was created by a loving God should be motivating for us to learn more about his creation. To say that someone who believes in a Biblical Creation does not do "interesting and exciting research" is ignorant. I personally know of several chemists and medical doctors who love to study their fields.
I don't get why many say there is no evidence for any belief other than Evolution... if there was no evidence for other beliefs then no one would believe in them (though the evidence is out of this world at times).
I did not say those who are religious do not do exciting research, I merely said it is much more restricted to archeology, and physical findings of the limited relics of what the bible tells us has happened, if they so choose to do such in a religious manner.
And when I say evidence, I mean evidence done controlled in experiments, numerous times until it is widely accepted as possible. Of course there is evidence for other beliefs, however it is more superficial, and incorporates faith.
Is there anything wrong with faith? No, of course not. However I choose to believe in which that is literal, and identifiable.
All in all, it boils down to answers, and what you were raised to believe. Both are extremely varying and subjective. But don't take this wrong... you can be Islam if you were raised a Christian, but the way in which religion was represented to you as a child is embedded into your brain of what a religion is and what it is for.
So, instead of this mindless opinion debating let's just settle it that we will go one believing or not believing in whatever we want, approve of others not agreeing with us and admit that we are all in a unique postion, and respect all unique positions for what they are worth.
I am tired of this stupid:
"God is real."
"God isn't real."
"God is real."
"God isn't real."
And of course this fits for all religions, those with and without a higher power of any sorts, and those with absolutely nothing. (Darwinism, anyone?)
"Why do I gotta have religion if I believe in God?"
That's pretty much me. The dogma and principles surrounding religion as a whole, not to mention the texts, doesn't appeal or fit with me.
I think people have "faith" in their religions - a particular sort of "belief":
Faith is belief without proof.
I'm a Catholic Christian, and I believe in it because I've never really had a choice. My parents sent me to private school since I was in Kindergarten, and being a normal Kindergartener, I just believed everything that people told me. It's just kind of stuck with me.
Sora529
I was brought up catholic as well, but then I started to think for myself. So I don't follow a single belief system -only my own.
BTW, Rational Athiest, I have a book to suggest to you. The Irrational Athiest by Vox Day.
"On one side of the argument is a collection of godless academics with doctorates from the finest universities in England, France and the "United States. On the other is Irrational Atheist author Vox Day, armed with nothing more than historical and statistical facts. Presenting a compelling argument, Day strips away the pseudo-scientific pretensions of New Atheism with his intelligent application of logic, history, military science, political economy and well-documented research. The arguments of Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Daniel Dennett and MIchael Onfray are all methodically exposed and discredited as Day provides extensive evidence proving, among other things, that:
The Irrational Atheist provides the rational thinker with empirical proof that atheism's claims against religion are devoid of logic, fact and science."
You can download from here if you want: http://irrationalatheist.com/downloads.html
BTW, Rational Athiest, I have a book to suggest to you. The Irrational Athiest by Vox Day.
"On one side of the argument is a collection of godless academics with doctorates from the finest universities in England, France and the "United States. On the other is Irrational Atheist author Vox Day, armed with nothing more than historical and statistical facts. Presenting a compelling argument, Day strips away the pseudo-scientific pretensions of New Atheism with his intelligent application of logic, history, military science, political economy and well-documented research. The arguments of Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Daniel Dennett and MIchael Onfray are all methodically exposed and discredited as Day provides extensive evidence proving, among other things, that:
- More than 93 percent of all the wars in human history had no relation to religion
- The Spanish Inquisition had no jurisdiction over professing Jews, Muslims or atheists and executed fewer people on an annual basis than the state of Texas
- Atheists are 3.84 times more likely to be imprisoned than Christians
- "Red" state crime is primarily committed in "blue" counties
- Sexually abused girls are 55 times more likely to commit suicide than girls raised Catholic
- In the twentieth century, atheistic regimes killed three times more people in peacetime than those killed in all the wars and individual crimes combined
The Irrational Atheist provides the rational thinker with empirical proof that atheism's claims against religion are devoid of logic, fact and science."
You can download from here if you want: http://irrationalatheist.com/downloads.html
Nagru
this claim alone:
"Atheists are 3.84 times more likely to be imprisoned than Christians "
is patently untrue - impossible in a country where the population is 90% christian!
Are lies justified to aid your faith?
Would this message have been better sent as a PM, seeing as its directed at me specifically?
[QUOTE="Nagru"]BTW, Rational Athiest, I have a book to suggest to you. The Irrational Athiest by Vox Day.
"On one side of the argument is a collection of godless academics with doctorates from the finest universities in England, France and the "United States. On the other is Irrational Atheist author Vox Day, armed with nothing more than historical and statistical facts. Presenting a compelling argument, Day strips away the pseudo-scientific pretensions of New Atheism with his intelligent application of logic, history, military science, political economy and well-documented research. The arguments of Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Daniel Dennett and MIchael Onfray are all methodically exposed and discredited as Day provides extensive evidence proving, among other things, that:
- More than 93 percent of all the wars in human history had no relation to religion
- The Spanish Inquisition had no jurisdiction over professing Jews, Muslims or atheists and executed fewer people on an annual basis than the state of Texas
- Atheists are 3.84 times more likely to be imprisoned than Christians
- "Red" state crime is primarily committed in "blue" counties
- Sexually abused girls are 55 times more likely to commit suicide than girls raised Catholic
- In the twentieth century, atheistic regimes killed three times more people in peacetime than those killed in all the wars and individual crimes combined
The Irrational Atheist provides the rational thinker with empirical proof that atheism's claims against religion are devoid of logic, fact and science."
You can download from here if you want: http://irrationalatheist.com/downloads.html
RationalAtheist
this claim alone:
"Atheists are 3.84 times more likely to be imprisoned than Christians "
is patently untrue - impossible in a country where the population is 90% christian!
Are lies justified to aid your faith?
Would this message have been better sent as a PM, seeing as its directed at me specifically?
Sexually abused girls are 55 times more likely to commit suicide than girls raised Catholic
This one seemed a little off too. Where the hell is the correlation between non-catholic and sexually abused children?
because my mommy and daddy beat it into me at a very young age and told me if i didn't believe that i would go to hell and they also told me hell is a place i don't want to go to. it's filled with people like my old priest and uncle johnny... so... yeah, sounds like a really bad place.
And of course this fits for all religions, those with and without a higher power of any sorts, and those with absolutely nothing. (Darwinism, anyone?)
awsss
Hello, if "darwinism" was a religion, people "practicing" it would get tax exemptions. Why don't you make up newtonists? I mean, gravity is "only a theory" as well, so anyone who believes in this invisible force must have faith, so it's also a religion. After all, it's not like a theory in the scientific sense is something that has withstood the scrunity of the entire scientific community for years and has piles of evidence supporting it.
[QUOTE="Hulkness"][QUOTE="Sora529"]I'm a Catholic Christian, and I believe in it because I've never really had a choice. My parents sent me to private school since I was in Kindergarten, and being a normal Kindergartener, I just believed everything that people told me. It's just kind of stuck with me.
Sora529
Now that your older do you stay with it because you feel you have to or because you truly believe?
I really don't think about it much. I definately don't feel an obligation to be Christian (besides the fact that it's my name :roll: ). I suppose that I do really believe, but I'm anything but a religious freak. I don't talk about my religion much outside of religion class.
Give it time. Up through 9th grade I didn't feel the presence of Christ in my life. I just accepted it, but the more I studied it and the more I prayed I really felt what I was doing and learning was real. It was an amazing feeling now I'm not afraid to stand up and say that I'm catholic and talk about my relgion to others.
[QUOTE="Sora529"][QUOTE="Hulkness"][QUOTE="Sora529"]I'm a Catholic Christian, and I believe in it because I've never really had a choice. My parents sent me to private school since I was in Kindergarten, and being a normal Kindergartener, I just believed everything that people told me. It's just kind of stuck with me.
ferrari2001
Now that your older do you stay with it because you feel you have to or because you truly believe?
I really don't think about it much. I definately don't feel an obligation to be Christian (besides the fact that it's my name :roll: ). I suppose that I do really believe, but I'm anything but a religious freak. I don't talk about my religion much outside of religion class.
Give it time. Up through 9th grade I didn't feel the presence of Christ in my life. I just accepted it, but the more I studied it and the more I prayed I really felt what I was doing and learning was real. It was an amazing feeling now I'm not afraid to stand up and say that I'm catholic and talk about my relgion to others.
Its not that I'm embarassed to talk about it, it's that I don't find it interesting to talk about. If someone asks me about it, I'm happy to respond, I just don't look for religious discussion.
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