Why do you believe (Or not believe) in God?

I don't feel comfortable discussing my reason.

But tell me why you believe in God or not.

I need proof and the bible offers nonealexmurray

Even with that I would consider myself agnostic.

1) Family

2) It just made sense to me (when i was smart enough to understand)

people need religion. it gives them strength to move on 2 their pathetic lifesHamster-of-Fate

regarding christianity in particular, I don't like the whole "you're a sack of crap, join our club so you don't have to go to hell forever for being what you are." method of recruiting.

[QUOTE="Hamster-of-Fate"]people need religion. it gives them strength to move on 2 their pathetic lifes6_volts

so how am i pathetic? ur the ones that are pathetic. ur the ones who believes theres a paradise in the afterlife.

regarding christianity in particular, I don't like the whole "you're a sack of crap, join our club so you don't have to go to hell forever for being what you are." method of recruiting.

Mr_sprinkles

I think theres a difference between "sacks of crap" and sinners.

[QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="Hamster-of-Fate"]people need religion. it gives them strength to move on 2 their pathetic lifesHamster-of-Fate

so how am i pathetic? ur the ones that are pathetic. ur the ones who believes theres a paradise in the afterlife.

Internet pissing contests are hilarious.

[QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="Hamster-of-Fate"]people need religion. it gives them strength to move on 2 their pathetic lifesHamster-of-Fate

so how am i pathetic? ur the ones that are pathetic. ur the ones who believes theres a paradise in the afterlife.

god loves us so much that he made a place called hell where people who don't believe in him goes and suffer for all eternity.

Thats just how much he LOVES you all

[QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="Hamster-of-Fate"]people need religion. it gives them strength to move on 2 their pathetic lifesHamster-of-Fate

so how am i pathetic? ur the ones that are pathetic. ur the ones who believes theres a paradise in the afterlife.

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]

regarding christianity in particular, I don't like the whole "you're a sack of crap, join our club so you don't have to go to hell forever for being what you are." method of recruiting.

123625

I think theres a difference between "sacks of crap" and sinners.

god loves us so much that he made a place called hell where people who don't believe in him goes and suffer for all eternity.

Thats just how much he LOVES you all

Hamster-of-Fate

You know this how?

god loves us so much that he made a place called hell where people who don't believe in him goes and suffer for all eternity.

Thats just how much he LOVES you all

Hamster-of-Fate

god loves us so much that he made a place called hell where people who don't believe in him goes and suffer for all eternity.

Thats just how much he LOVES you all

Hamster-of-Fate

That's not exactly a necessary thing to believe if you believe in God.

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]

regarding christianity in particular, I don't like the whole "you're a sack of crap, join our club so you don't have to go to hell forever for being what you are." method of recruiting.

Mr_sprinkles

I think theres a difference between "sacks of crap" and sinners.

Well, i don't think christianity considers human beings in general "worthless" or "hopeless" or anything like that? Was that what you're trying to say? I think it considers people sinners? in other words they have done bad things, but are not inherently worthless.

123625, what I'm trying to say is I don't agree with the idea that doing one bad thing makes you a bad person. And so the rest of the "now this is how you can be saved" spiel doesn't do much for me.Mr_sprinkles

Okay, thanks for clarifiction, I don't think christianity considers people bad, just that they have done bad actions and are sinners. Oh and people do a hell of alot more than one bad thing ;) Though i would be interested in some verses defending your position.

[QUOTE="Hamster-of-Fate"]

[QUOTE="6_volts"][QUOTE="Hamster-of-Fate"]people need religion. it gives them strength to move on 2 their pathetic lifesBlood-Scribe

so how am i pathetic? ur the ones that are pathetic. ur the ones who believes theres a paradise in the afterlife.

Internet pissing contests are hilarious.

This is my view, if I had lived 100 years ago I would believe in god, it would explain alot that cant the explained. But today we can explain things and science does it wellalexmurray

Science has nothing to do with religion. At one time I considered becoming a Quantum Physicist, and yet I believe in God and am actually probably going into the seminary to become a priest. Science cannot explain how the universe ultimitely came to be not even close. And that's where God comes in. If science was so great it would have easily disproved God by now. And dispproved the hundreds of christian miracles that can still be seen in European churches and stuff today and yet they can't.

This is my view, if I had lived 100 years ago I would believe in god, it would explain alot that cant the explained. But today we can explain things and science does it wellalexmurray

I'm not sure if I would agree to this necessarily, because I formed my opinion from the Bible and not because of current events. I would say if I had lived 2000 years ago, I would have a better answer. ;)

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]123625, what I'm trying to say is I don't agree with the idea that doing one bad thing makes you a bad person. And so the rest of the "now this is how you can be saved" spiel doesn't do much for me.123625

Okay, thanks for clarifiction, I don't think christianity considers people bad, just that they have done bad actions and are sinners. Oh and people do a hell of alot more than one bad thing ;) Though i would be interested in some verses defending your position.

I don't have verses :o I got rid of my bible after I left philosophy class.

[QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]123625, what I'm trying to say is I don't agree with the idea that doing one bad thing makes you a bad person. And so the rest of the "now this is how you can be saved" spiel doesn't do much for me.Mr_sprinkles

Okay, thanks for clarifiction, I don't think christianity considers people bad, just that they have done bad actions and are sinners. Oh and people do a hell of alot more than one bad thing ;) Though i would be interested in some verses defending your position.

I don't have verses :o I got rid of my bible after I left philosophy class.

Ah i see, well the point of christianity is not just offer salvation to the good, but also offer it to bad. It offers salvation to anyone who is repentful and lives in Jesus. Admittably though there are people who do alot of good, but the good doesn't wash away the bad. I feel if God judged that way, he would only be loving us based on what we do, not what we are ;)

And the bible is a great book, why throw it out :o

Ah i see, well the point of christianity is not just offer salvation to the good, but also offer it to bad. It offers salvation to anyone who is repentful and lives in Jesus. Admittably though there are people who do alot of good, but the good doesn't wash away the bad. I feel if God judged that way, he would only be loving us based on what we do, not what we are ;)

And the bible is a great book, why throw it out :o

123625

But the thing there is that what one believes is a fundamental reflection of who that person is. That's the biggest problem I have with with the whole "believe in Jesus to get saved" - that's basically saying that God's playing favorites with whomever grew up and was shaped in a way that made that person more open to the belief that Jesus is the Son of God and all that.

god loves us so much that he made a place called hell where people who don't believe in him goes and suffer for all eternity.

Thats just how much he LOVES you all

Hamster-of-Fate

How do you know God created Hell?

The Bible says he created Heaven and the Earth.

[QUOTE="123625"]

Ah i see, well the point of christianity is not just offer salvation to the good, but also offer it to bad. It offers salvation to anyone who is repentful and lives in Jesus. Admittably though there are people who do alot of good, but the good doesn't wash away the bad. I feel if God judged that way, he would only be loving us based on what we do, not what we are ;)

And the bible is a great book, why throw it out :o

GabuEx

But the thing there is that what one believes is a fundamental reflection of who that person is. That's the biggest problem I have with with the whole "believe in Jesus to get saved" - that's basically saying that God's playing favorites with whomever grew up and was shaped in a way that made that person more open to the belief that Jesus is the Son of God and all that.

Good point, but I still beleive Jesus is the only way to be with God.

No empirical evidence. For any god. At all.

[QUOTE="Hamster-of-Fate"]

god loves us so much that he made a place called hell where people who don't believe in him goes and suffer for all eternity.

Thats just how much he LOVES you all

6_volts

OH but you cant fergit he still loves you.....BS!