Why does it seem like no one cares about the state initiatives this election?

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#51 AdamPA1006
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Gay Marriage has never passed a referendum vote. Silent majority.

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#52 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="SaudiFury"] might come off as a humorous, but both my mom and i look forward to when we can smoke a joint together (like we did in Jamaica) :P hopefully it'll get passed.

What a great parent.

Same as a father drinking a beer with his son. i see no issue here.

lol
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#53 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"][QUOTE="GamingTitan"]

I live in Washington state and I care a lot.

Its crazy that weed is about to be flat out legal here. All the polls are showing it winning by a land slide.

The gay marriage one will pass too.

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Pretty sure the big boys up top can just say no, as drugs are something taken care of at the federal level. Believe me, I'd love to see a lot of these issues settled by people who actually live in the state. But AFAIK, they can always override the vote.

I may be wrong but i dont think they can just veto it, but they can show up and raid the shops and arrest the people selling it. If it passes (and it will) Washington state is basically going to war with the feds over it. Should be pretty crazy~

All in all it seems that its just a question of time before you see it being sold for recreational use in most states. People have had it with a losing drug war. So much revenue to be generated from it. They are saying like 1.5 billion over 2 years in Washington state.

Yea, it really is only a matter of time before weed get's fully legalized. The revenue is just too tempting to the states.
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#54 senses_fail_06
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[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"][QUOTE="GamingTitan"]

I live in Washington state and I care a lot.

Its crazy that weed is about to be flat out legal here. All the polls are showing it winning by a land slide.

The gay marriage one will pass too.

GamingTitan

Pretty sure the big boys up top can just say no, as drugs are something taken care of at the federal level. Believe me, I'd love to see a lot of these issues settled by people who actually live in the state. But AFAIK, they can always override the vote.

I may be wrong but i dont think they can just veto it, but they can show up and raid the shops and arrest the people selling it. If it passes (and it will) Washington state is basically going to war with the feds over it. Should be pretty crazy~

All in all it seems that its just a question of time before you see it being sold for recreational use in most states. People have had it with a losing drug war. So much revenue to be generated from it. They are saying like 1.5 billion over 2 years in Washington state.

I think you're right. Similar stuff went down just like that in California recently.
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#55 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] What a great parent.

Same as a father drinking a beer with his son. i see no issue here.

lol

Mind expanding your position?
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#56 Allicrombie
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[QUOTE="Allicrombie"]Cali has a buttload of propositions. They're smart to do it this way cause no one votes in state elections.Pirate700

I vote for the local stuff in state elections. Unlike the presidential election, my vote actually matters locally as San Diego is a Republican city.

Thats good, a lot of the people I know dont bother voting in local state elections.
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#57 -Toshy-
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State issues in Missouri are lame. KC_Hokie
Same with Nebraska. The four amendments look like they'll win in landslides anyway.
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#58 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="SaudiFury"] might come off as a humorous, but both my mom and i look forward to when we can smoke a joint together (like we did in Jamaica) :P hopefully it'll get passed.l4dak47
What a great parent.

Same as a father drinking a beer with his son. i see no issue here.

I have to agree with you here. If it's legal, I don't see much of a difference.

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#59 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Allicrombie"]Cali has a buttload of propositions. They're smart to do it this way cause no one votes in state elections.Allicrombie

I vote for the local stuff in state elections. Unlike the presidential election, my vote actually matters locally as San Diego is a Republican city.

Thats good, a lot of the people I know dont bother voting in local state elections.

Looks like we're going to have a gay republican for mayor. Bet many here didn't think it possible. :P

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] What a great parent.Pirate700

Same as a father drinking a beer with his son. i see no issue here.

I have to agree with you here. If it's legal, I don't see much of a difference.

I think it is a little different. Marijuana being consumed through direct inhalation of carcinogens probably wouldn't be something most children should be exposed to. Pot brownies though? Sure.

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#61 Bane_09
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I care, I live right by Minnesota and have a lot of friends that live in the cities.

Also very excited to see how the marijuana legalization goes

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#62 SaudiFury
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="SaudiFury"] might come off as a humorous, but both my mom and i look forward to when we can smoke a joint together (like we did in Jamaica) :P hopefully it'll get passed.

What a great parent.

i'm 26, not 12. was introduced to pot by college friends back when i was just doing my undergrad. very rare that i do it, not addicted at all. when i was going on a family cruise in Jamaica, i humorously floated the idea that my mom and i share a joint. was surprised when she agreed, then found it she herself smoked it when she was in college as well. and when growing up my folks where the "say no to drugs" kind of folks, which for the most part worked, because i refuse to do any of the hard illegal drugs. only illegal substance i've tried has been pot, but that didn't come from peer pressure but rather being a bit informed and being curious to try it. i've tried alchohol once before, didn't like it. i smoke cigar's or cigarillio's only on occasions when i'm having a truly bad day - seems to take the edge off and help me relax. which again is rare. though admittedly i was smoking a lot near the end with my last girlfriend, so there was a sign i guess...
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#63 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] Same as a father drinking a beer with his son. i see no issue here. senses_fail_06

I have to agree with you here. If it's legal, I don't see much of a difference.

I think it is a little different. Marijuana being consumed through direct inhalation of carcinogens probably wouldn't be something most children should be exposed to. Pot brownies though? Sure.

Guy is an adult, dude. Obvs, kids shouldn't be exposed to any mind-altering drugs before the ages of like 18 or something. After that, I don't care if they smoke, vape, or eat.
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#64 DroidPhysX
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Gay Marriage has never passed a referendum vote. Silent majority.

AdamPA1006

dont worry. in 24 hours, that wont be the case

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#65 senses_fail_06
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]I have to agree with you here. If it's legal, I don't see much of a difference.

l4dak47

I think it is a little different. Marijuana being consumed through direct inhalation of carcinogens probably wouldn't be something most children should be exposed to. Pot brownies though? Sure.

Guy is an adult, dude. Obvs, kids shouldn't be exposed to any mind-altering drugs before the ages of like 18 or something. After that, I don't care if they smoke, vape, or eat.

Seemed like the conversation was meant for a child under the age of 21, drinking his first beer with his father or something like that.
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#66 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="senses_fail_06"]

I think it is a little different. Marijuana being consumed through direct inhalation of carcinogens probably wouldn't be something most children should be exposed to. Pot brownies though? Sure.

senses_fail_06
Guy is an adult, dude. Obvs, kids shouldn't be exposed to any mind-altering drugs before the ages of like 18 or something. After that, I don't care if they smoke, vape, or eat.

Seemed like the conversation was meant for a child under the age of 21, drinking his first beer with his father or something like that.

I was thinking in the context of 16-18 year olds. The 21 drinking age is dumb and just about everybody breaks that law.
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#67 TheWalkingGhost
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Immigration ones? Which states are those in, the ones for CA don't seem to cover that.
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I voted for repealing California's death penalty. Go me. Also for the limitations on the three strikes ruleAbbeten
Its pretty hilarious that people who claim to be "fiscally conservative" are still for the death penalty even though it costs millions of dollars more than imprisoning them for life..
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Immigration ones? Which states are those in, the ones for CA don't seem to cover that.TheWalkingGhost
I believe Maryland has one, it's about the DREAM act. Though other states already have it, this will be the first one decided by a referendum.

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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]Immigration ones? Which states are those in, the ones for CA don't seem to cover that.Aljosa23

I believe Maryland has one, it's about the DREAM act. Though other states already have it, this will be the first one decided by a referendum.

Thanks. You are right, it is for in state tuition for undocumented immigrants.
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[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Gay Marriage has never passed a referendum vote. Silent majority.

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dont worry. in 24 hours, that wont be the case

Want to bet your account?
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Gay Marriage has never passed a referendum vote. Silent majority.

dave123321

dont worry. in 24 hours, that wont be the case

Want to bet your account?

Ill bet regarding the presidency. See KCs thread for details.

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#73 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Gay Marriage has never passed a referendum vote. Silent majority.

dave123321

dont worry. in 24 hours, that wont be the case

Want to bet your account?

i dont want you to leave, dave
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#74 dave123321
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Ok
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Cali has a buttload of propositions. They're smart to do it this way cause no one votes in state elections.Allicrombie
True. I was too lazy to vote in the last one.
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[QUOTE="Allicrombie"]Cali has a buttload of propositions. They're smart to do it this way cause no one votes in state elections.soulless4now
True. I was too lazy to vote in the last one.

I am not voting at all this time. Doesn't matter, this backwoods state has people who just get anything we pass thrown out in court anyway.
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#77 soulless4now
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[QUOTE="soulless4now"][QUOTE="Allicrombie"]Cali has a buttload of propositions. They're smart to do it this way cause no one votes in state elections.TheWalkingGhost
True. I was too lazy to vote in the last one.

I am not voting at all this time. Doesn't matter, this backwoods state has people who just get anything we pass thrown out in court anyway.

What state do you live in?
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#78 JDWolfie
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Although I'm not voting, a whole lot more attention has been given regarding having a casino here in Baltimore, MD than the gay marriage bill. I think everyone pretty much assumes that were going to have Question 6 passed here regarding gay marriage. As far as having a casino goes, a lot of debate has been going on if money will go towards schools (which we know Baltimore is absolutely doing terrible). If I would vote no on gay marriage and yes for having a casino here (question 7). At the very least it would create some jobs. I think the bigger concern is that politicians are worried the poor people would spend all their money at the casino.

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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="soulless4now"]True. I was too lazy to vote in the last one. soulless4now
I am not voting at all this time. Doesn't matter, this backwoods state has people who just get anything we pass thrown out in court anyway.

What state do you live in?

La República Popular de California. (If I translated that right)
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I think gay marriage will pass in Washington and Maine, it luck is on the right side of history then Maryland will pass it as well.

Marijuana posession legalization will definitely pass in washington.

and While I intially thought Californian will definitely keep state pre meditated murder of citizens firmly in place, now I think result will probably be close enough to keep some hope for humanity.

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#81 Ncsoftlover
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Gay Marriage has never passed a referendum vote. Silent majority.

dave123321

dont worry. in 24 hours, that wont be the case

Want to bet your account?

it won't be a even bet, it is way too likely that at least one state will pass same sex marriage by referendum vote this time.