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#51 m45t3rch13f
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Let's remove nuclear weapon! Oh wait, another type of WMD just spawned... WMDs are here to stay, just like firearms. You remove them, another type (of WMD) will be replacing it.
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Fail troll is fail.
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#53 digital86
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what the **** are you talking about? How is this trolling? I guess you dont understand simple logic. Without nuclear weapons, if an alien race decided to invade us, we would be ****ed At least with nukes, we could have a chance at wiping them out, even if it meant wiping out some of our own.
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#54 shoot-first
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He just wants to make himself look good. :o

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#55 deactivated-5a84f3399aa1c
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That's like telling the aliens "You'll never catch A DEAD MAN" then we launch the nukes.
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#56 RandolphScott
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An alien race capable of crossing the vastness of space and attacking our planet would be many, many, many years advanced from nuclear weapons. Even if we had them and used them, they would be entirely ineffective.
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How is this not a serious question? You fools really think aliens don't exist? 500 billion galaxies x 500 billion stars per galaxy = LOTS of chances for life out there. Who says they wouldn't want to invade earth one day?digital86

Yes but the chances that they there is intelligent life out there at this moment that has the ability to reach us and is hostile seem pretty slim.

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#58 cowboymonkey21
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Because they are very, very dangerous.:|

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#59 TheShadowLord07
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why have nukes when we can have mechs?

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#60 Jekken6
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why have nukes when we can have mechs?

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Or mechs that fire nukes! :o

If Crysis is anything to go by, nuclear weapons will make them stronger if the nukes do not explode on the inside (mothersihp, strider). With the regular aliens, normal guns work.

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#61 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Nuclear weapons are here to stay, and I would argue they are a good thing because it prevents major wars like WWII from breaking out due to MAD.. Now why countries like the United States, or Russia have so many is beyond my understanding.. 30 nuclear weapons are more than enough to do the same job the 1500 nuclear weapons are there to begin with..
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#62 Bluff_Master_2
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There will never be any aliens even if there are many other lifeforms out there cuz simply the laws of physics dont allow any remotely practical journey into another galaxy.

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#63 Dystopian-X
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The Simpson did it TC.
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#64 cody3232
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Read thread title thinking "Lol Wut?"
Read post, saw that he had a reason
Left thread thinking "Lol Wut?"

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#65 blackmagesm
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If aliens are technologically advanced enough to reach Earth and they're aggressive, then were hosed with nukes or not

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They are prolly just as advanced as we are. Why do we always think aliens have such superior technology such as "force fields" and "Super Lasers" and what not. By the time we get to interstellar travel who knows, they could also just be discovering interstellar travel. We will never know though.
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#67 deactivated-58df4522915cb
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I take this topic seriously. I have no idea why obama wants to rid the world of nukes. I guess he thinks that there is the risk of causing world war 3. personally, to me, without nukes we would be utterly defensless. think about it. what if we get rid of our nukes, and our enemies say they are getting rid of theirs when they are really putting theirs into storage or something? also, i agree 100% on the aliens thing. sure, there is a chance that nukes wouldnt work on them, but nuclear weapons are our most powerful weapons. its all we got. another thing you would have to realize is that scientifically nukes would be very effective against energy shields, should the aliens have them.

its simple really, the shields would be transparent to electro-magnetic radiation (like ordinary light). Light passes thru them, reflects off the vehicles, and passes back out. That's why we would be able to see them. The balst froma nuclear warhead is an enormous burst of electro-magnetic radiation. All that energy would pass thru the useless transparent shields and fry the aliens.

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They are prolly just as advanced as we are. Why do we always think aliens have such superior technology such as "force fields" and "Super Lasers" and what not. By the time we get to interstellar travel who knows, they could also just be discovering interstellar travel. We will never know though.Dub_c6969
We probably will never.. As it stands it takes the energy the earth provides for an entire week to get a object the mass of a bowling ball the speed of light.. Furthermore at those speeds a speck of dust can lead to fatal damage of the vessel due tot he amount of force behind it when it impacts.. A space craft would get obliterated.. Furthermore, the speed of light is slow in the grand scheme of things.. The closest star is some where around 4 to 10 lightyears away from us..
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I take this topic seriously. I have no idea why obama wants to rid the world of nukes. I guess he thinks that there is the risk of causing world war 3. personally, to me, without nukes we would be utterly defensless. think about it. what if we get rid of our nukes, and our enemies say they are getting rid of theirs when they are really putting theirs into storage or something? also, i agree 100% on the aliens thing. sure, there is a chance that nukes wouldnt work on them, but nuclear weapons are our most powerful weapons. its all we got. another thing you would have to realize is that scientifically nukes would be very effective against energy shields, should the aliens have them.

its simple really, the shieldswould betransparent to electro-magnetic radiation (like ordinary light). Light passes thru them, reflects off the vehicles, and passes back out. That's why wewould be ablesee them. A nuclear warheadis an enormous burst of electro-magnetic radiation. All that energy would pass thru the useless transparent shields and fry the aliens.

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What makes you think America would REALLY get rid of all of their nukes. This is America founded on BSing a lot of people. My mom used to work for the Armed Forces and she told me that we have Nukes secretly stashed in underground silos that people will never know about. We might cut back on some of our Nukes but know Country is crazy enough to get rid of all of their Nukes.
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[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"]They are prolly just as advanced as we are. Why do we always think aliens have such superior technology such as "force fields" and "Super Lasers" and what not. By the time we get to interstellar travel who knows, they could also just be discovering interstellar travel. We will never know though.sSubZerOo
We probably will never.. As it stands it takes the energy the earth provides for an entire week to get a object the mass of a bowling ball the speed of light.. Furthermore at those speeds a speck of dust can lead to fatal damage of the vessel due tot he amount of force behind it when it impacts.. A space craft would get obliterated.. Furthermore, the speed of light is slow in the grand scheme of things.. The closest star is some where around 4 to 10 lightyears away from us..

I know that. So why do people think aliens can overcome that? I know there is prolly life out there some where but for the same reasons you listed, im pretty sure they could not do the same, so we will never see aliens at least in our life time.

EDIT: Even if we could travel at the light of speed it would still be Humanly impossible to travel to another galaxy. Light is consider fast on earth but when taking about traveling to another galaxy SOL is very very slow, and know human would survive the trip until we some how create something that gives us immortality.

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#71 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]

I take this topic seriously. I have no idea why obama wants to rid the world of nukes. I guess he thinks that there is the risk of causing world war 3. personally, to me, without nukes we would be utterly defensless. think about it. what if we get rid of our nukes, and our enemies say they are getting rid of theirs when they are really putting theirs into storage or something? also, i agree 100% on the aliens thing. sure, there is a chance that nukes wouldnt work on them, but nuclear weapons are our most powerful weapons. its all we got. another thing you would have to realize is that scientifically nukes would be very effective against energy shields, should the aliens have them.

its simple really, the shieldswould betransparent to electro-magnetic radiation (like ordinary light). Light passes thru them, reflects off the vehicles, and passes back out. That's why wewould be ablesee them. A nuclear warheadis an enormous burst of electro-magnetic radiation. All that energy would pass thru the useless transparent shields and fry the aliens.

What makes you think America would REALLY get rid of all of their nukes. This is America founded on BSing a lot of people. My mom used to work for the Armed Forces and she told me that we have Nukes secretly stashed in underground silos that people will never know about. We might cut back on some of our Nukes but know Country is crazy enough to get rid of all of their Nukes.

They would never.. It holds too much advantage in exploiting countries with none such weapons, while being able to spar with the countries with the same weapons.
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#72 clembo1990
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Nuclear weapons protect our children from terrorist raping liberals :o
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#73 cyberdarkkid
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hmm for some reason I saw this dumb question coming :?
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#74 Dub_c6969
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]

I take this topic seriously. I have no idea why obama wants to rid the world of nukes. I guess he thinks that there is the risk of causing world war 3. personally, to me, without nukes we would be utterly defensless. think about it. what if we get rid of our nukes, and our enemies say they are getting rid of theirs when they are really putting theirs into storage or something? also, i agree 100% on the aliens thing. sure, there is a chance that nukes wouldnt work on them, but nuclear weapons are our most powerful weapons. its all we got. another thing you would have to realize is that scientifically nukes would be very effective against energy shields, should the aliens have them.

its simple really, the shieldswould betransparent to electro-magnetic radiation (like ordinary light). Light passes thru them, reflects off the vehicles, and passes back out. That's why wewould be ablesee them. A nuclear warheadis an enormous burst of electro-magnetic radiation. All that energy would pass thru the useless transparent shields and fry the aliens.

What makes you think America would REALLY get rid of all of their nukes. This is America founded on BSing a lot of people. My mom used to work for the Armed Forces and she told me that we have Nukes secretly stashed in underground silos that people will never know about. We might cut back on some of our Nukes but know Country is crazy enough to get rid of all of their Nukes.

They would never.. It holds too much advantage in exploiting countries with none such weapons, while being able to spar with the countries with the same weapons.

They would never what?
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Dub_c6969"] What makes you think America would REALLY get rid of all of their nukes. This is America founded on BSing a lot of people. My mom used to work for the Armed Forces and she told me that we have Nukes secretly stashed in underground silos that people will never know about. We might cut back on some of our Nukes but know Country is crazy enough to get rid of all of their Nukes.Dub_c6969
They would never.. It holds too much advantage in exploiting countries with none such weapons, while being able to spar with the countries with the same weapons.

They would never what?

Completely dismantle their nuclear arsonal.
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#76 Dub_c6969
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[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] They would never.. It holds too much advantage in exploiting countries with none such weapons, while being able to spar with the countries with the same weapons.sSubZerOo
They would never what?

Completely dismantle their nuclear arsonal.

hhmm thats what i said. I was telling the guy that i quoted what makes him think they would get rid of all of their nukes. America might be a lot of things but its not crazy enough to get rid of all of their nukes.
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if aleins invaded the earth we'd send george clinton in to make them high.
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#78 bsman00
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I understand its so we wouldnt nuke each other and destroy our civilization, BUT WHAT IF, aliens invaded earth? Will we throw rocks at them?digital86

Well if aliens made it to this planet, that means they have technology beyond ares..... so i dont think nukes would do much.... did you not see independence day! :P

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hmm for some reason I saw this dumb question coming :?cyberdarkkid
you can see into the future :o amazing!!!
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#80 GaMeR_Willz
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Because they know they'll be firing them at other countries due to stupid human behaviour!!

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[QUOTE="digital86"]I understand its so we wouldnt nuke each other and destroy our civilization, BUT WHAT IF, aliens invaded earth? Will we throw rocks at them?

How do you know nukes would even work against aliens? :o
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I think US has lost it's right to tell other countries about nuclear disarmament, especially after two nuclear strikes on Japan.

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Wow.... See, that's what Area 51 is for. We have something beyond nuclear weapons in there... Kratos!
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Wow.... See, that's what Area 51 is for. We have something beyond nuclear weapons in there... Kratos!GodofBigMacs

My friend was posted there for a few years, there are no aliens in there. They conducted lots of banned experiments like using hydrazine (used in satellites)to create superfast anti-gravity vehicles which people took it as alien space crafts.

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I think US has lost it's right to tell other countries about nuclear disarmament, especially after two nuclear strikes on Japan.

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That was 70 years ago. Its a little too long to be playing that card everytime.
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Because they go bang, and we go splat!

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[QUOTE="digital86"]How is this not a serious question? You fools really think aliens don't exist? 500 billion galaxies x 500 billion stars per galaxy = LOTS of chances for life out there. Who says they wouldn't want to invade earth one day?

so you think that an alien society with the technology advanced enough to do long distance and sustained travel through the vastness of space would be stopped by our nukes? best thing would could hope for would be destroying ourselves so they can't enslave us. of course that's assuming that such an advanced life form would be hostile.
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[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="digital86"]How is this not a serious question? You fools really think aliens don't exist? 500 billion galaxies x 500 billion stars per galaxy = LOTS of chances for life out there. Who says they wouldn't want to invade earth one day?

so you think that an alien society with the technology advanced enough to do long distance and sustained travel through the vastness of space would be stopped by our nukes? best thing would could hope for would be destroying ourselves so they can't enslave us. of course that's assuming that such an advanced life form would be hostile.

THese people have clearly not seen War of the Worlds. Kids these days.
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cuz nukes are bad mkay
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[QUOTE="Blubadox"]

I think US has lost it's right to tell other countries about nuclear disarmament, especially after two nuclear strikes on Japan.

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That was 70 years ago. Its a little too long to be playing that card everytime.

The US is the only country to have ever used nuclear weapons in combat, so it's not too long at all. Also, these things cause massive collateral damage. That's why Obama wants rid or at least, get rid of some.
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#91 General_X
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And why are aliens automatically hostile to us?
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First off, who the hell cares?

He doesn't really want to rid the world of nuclear weapons, and everyone should know if he says that he's spouting horse **** from his mouth.

Second off, pretty nuclear weapons will be useless against a species of intelligent being capable of galactic travel.

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#93 General_X
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[QUOTE="Blubadox"]

I think US has lost it's right to tell other countries about nuclear disarmament, especially after two nuclear strikes on Japan.

IndigoSunrise
That was 70 years ago. Its a little too long to be playing that card everytime.

Also those nukes are like firecrackers compared to what we're sporting these days.
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First off, who the hell cares?

He doesn't really want to rid the world of nuclear weapons, and everyone should know if he says that he's spouting horse **** from his mouth.

Second off, pretty nuclear weapons will be useless against a species of intelligent being capable of galactic travel.

-TheSecondSign-

yea really. I bet they are blowing up planets already in their own galaxy/solar system. They would come over and rape us.

EDIT: we are just having wars against other countries, I bet they are having wars with other planets in other solar systems and what not!

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We have a greater chance of getting wiped out by a comet or astroid.. Something that no amount of nuclear weapons we launch at it would stop.
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How is this not a serious question? You fools really think aliens don't exist? 500 billion galaxies x 500 billion stars per galaxy = LOTS of chances for life out there. Who says they wouldn't want to invade earth one day?digital86
yes they most likely do exist but the probability of them coming here is very small. So at the risk of aliens taking over getting rid of nukes so we don't blow up the planet is probably something we can do.
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#97 redstormrisen
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Nukes are old, messy technology. In 20-30 years Agies destroyers wll have the capibility to destroy an ICBM with comparitive ease. If a race is capable of intersteller travel the we're buggered even if we have outdated tech like that. They are not weapons of war, they are political barganing tools.
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[QUOTE="digital86"]How is this not a serious question? You fools really think aliens don't exist? 500 billion galaxies x 500 billion stars per galaxy = LOTS of chances for life out there. Who says they wouldn't want to invade earth one day?Serraph105
yes they most likely do exist but the probability of them coming here is very small. So at the risk of aliens taking over getting rid of nukes so we don't blow up the planet is probably something we can do.

... Small? Try non existent with the understanding of physics we know of today.. Say if we get to the speed of light (which is close to a impossibility it self, it literally would take an entire week of energy the Earth produces to launch a bowling ball any where close to the speed of light) and understand it would be like driving a glass car through a thick forest.. Any thing that remotely touches the craft going at that speed, say a spec of dust.. Would obliterate the space craft.. Furthermore the speed of light is a slow speed, the closest solar system to ours is like 6 to 10 lightyears away..
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This is very amusing. Do you really think nuclear weapons are capable of killing sliens that have the ability to send warships/soliders/military etc.?

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#100 Dub_c6969
Member since 2004 • 6014 Posts
[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="digital86"]How is this not a serious question? You fools really think aliens don't exist? 500 billion galaxies x 500 billion stars per galaxy = LOTS of chances for life out there. Who says they wouldn't want to invade earth one day?sSubZerOo
yes they most likely do exist but the probability of them coming here is very small. So at the risk of aliens taking over getting rid of nukes so we don't blow up the planet is probably something we can do.

... Small? Try non existent with the understanding of physics we know of today.. Say if we get to the speed of light (which is close to a impossibility it self, it literally would take an entire week of energy the Earth produces to launch a bowling ball any where close to the speed of light) and understand it would be like driving a glass car through a thick forest.. Any thing that remotely touches the craft going at that speed, say a spec of dust.. Would obliterate the space craft.. Furthermore the speed of light is a slow speed, the closest solar system to ours is like 6 to 10 lightyears away..

You dont have to keep saying that. Even if we could go that fast it would STILL TAKE FOR EVER AND EVER TO TRAVEL ACROSS A GALAXY. We would have to be immortal to travel the SOL. SOL is fast on earth but nothing compared to crossing a galaxy let alone billion and trillions of them.