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...why is it people only go to religion when they want something in return?........kinda missing the whole point if you ask me......Omni-SlashLike that Cat Stevens. Only when one is under the final judgement, they'll turn to religion and plead for saving.
I'll tell you a story. I used to be Christian. I took everything on faith. When I was about 14 though I started to have doubts. My Baptist grandmother always told me about this little prayer to recite if I ever doubted Jesus. One day I discovered the definite way to cast away all my doubts. The only problem was that it could also crush my beliefs. I would pray sincerely and wholeheartedly to Jesus to come into my life so I could feel his loving embrace that many of my peers had told me about. So I did. And then I recited the prayer again and agian...nothing. Does Jesus not like me. I was absolutely sincere in my prayer yet I sensed nothing, no change in my demeanor, no comforting sense of love. So to all, Christians. How do you respond? Where's Jesus? But, then again, should I even have to look for the God of the universe and his presence which pervades everything in existence? espoac
Christianity is just a state of mind. People only "experience" Jesus' "love" because they believe they will. It's kind of like a headache: if you believe that it's gone, then it's gone.
But without that imaginary comfort, sometimes life can be more difficult... But at the same time, it's easier in many ways because when you're not a Christian, you can think for yourself and decide what really matters. Also, not being a Christian gives you more opportunities in life and allows you to not feel guilty for doing things that you shouldn't feel guilty for doing in the first place (E.g. Masturbation Â
...why is it people only go to religion when they want something in return?........kinda missing the whole point if you ask me......Omni-SlashI don't want anything in return. I just would like to feel his love. Which I hear is quite overwheling. I think all true Christians are entitled to feel his love.
I'll tell you a story. I used to be Christian. I took everything on faith. When I was about 14 though I started to have doubts. My Baptist grandmother always told me about this little prayer to recite if I ever doubted Jesus. One day I discovered the definite way to cast away all my doubts. The only problem was that it could also crush my beliefs. I would pray sincerely and wholeheartedly to Jesus to come into my life so I could feel his loving embrace that many of my peers had told me about. So I did. And then I recited the prayer again and agian...nothing. Does Jesus not like me. I was absolutely sincere in my prayer yet I sensed nothing, no change in my demeanor, no comforting sense of love. So to all, Christians. How do you respond? Where's Jesus? But, then again, should I even have to look for the God of the universe and his presence which pervades everything in existence? espoac
A change in your life is never instantaneous. Jesus loves you and wants to make your life better. If you would like to PM me, I'll do my best to answer any questions you have and I'll tell you a true story. . .:)
[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]...why is it people only go to religion when they want something in return?........kinda missing the whole point if you ask me......espoacI don't want anything in return. I just would like to feel his love. Which I hear is quite overwheling. I think all true Christians are entitled to feel his love. but you are.....you're not living the life of christianity for the right reason......you're only living the desired outcome.....this is why religion infuriorates me......the various faiths have messed up their doctorine so much that those that want to follow don;t even know why they are following....
[QUOTE="espoac"]I'll tell you a story. I used to be Christian. I took everything on faith. When I was about 14 though I started to have doubts. My Baptist grandmother always told me about this little prayer to recite if I ever doubted Jesus. One day I discovered the definite way to cast away all my doubts. The only problem was that it could also crush my beliefs. I would pray sincerely and wholeheartedly to Jesus to come into my life so I could feel his loving embrace that many of my peers had told me about. So I did. And then I recited the prayer again and agian...nothing. Does Jesus not like me. I was absolutely sincere in my prayer yet I sensed nothing, no change in my demeanor, no comforting sense of love. So to all, Christians. How do you respond? Where's Jesus? But, then again, should I even have to look for the God of the universe and his presence which pervades everything in existence? Silver_Dragon17
A change in your life is never instantaneous. Jesus loves you and wants to make your life better. If you would like to PM me, I'll do my best to answer any questions you have and I'll tell you a true story. . .:)
So what, I'm supposed to feel his love gradually? Why can't I feel his love at all? I should.This is what 2 Baptist preachers and a Catholic preist have told me.[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="espoac"]I'll tell you a story. I used to be Christian. I took everything on faith. When I was about 14 though I started to have doubts. My Baptist grandmother always told me about this little prayer to recite if I ever doubted Jesus. One day I discovered the definite way to cast away all my doubts. The only problem was that it could also crush my beliefs. I would pray sincerely and wholeheartedly to Jesus to come into my life so I could feel his loving embrace that many of my peers had told me about. So I did. And then I recited the prayer again and agian...nothing. Does Jesus not like me. I was absolutely sincere in my prayer yet I sensed nothing, no change in my demeanor, no comforting sense of love. So to all, Christians. How do you respond? Where's Jesus? But, then again, should I even have to look for the God of the universe and his presence which pervades everything in existence? espoac
A change in your life is never instantaneous. Jesus loves you and wants to make your life better. If you would like to PM me, I'll do my best to answer any questions you have and I'll tell you a true story. . .:)
So what, I'm supposed to feel his love gradually? Why can't I feel his love at all? I should.This is what 2 Baptist preachers and a Catholic preist have told me.If you want to be loved, try being more lovable. That's the only advice I can think of. Sorry.
[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="espoac"]I'll tell you a story. I used to be Christian. I took everything on faith. When I was about 14 though I started to have doubts. My Baptist grandmother always told me about this little prayer to recite if I ever doubted Jesus. One day I discovered the definite way to cast away all my doubts. The only problem was that it could also crush my beliefs. I would pray sincerely and wholeheartedly to Jesus to come into my life so I could feel his loving embrace that many of my peers had told me about. So I did. And then I recited the prayer again and agian...nothing. Does Jesus not like me. I was absolutely sincere in my prayer yet I sensed nothing, no change in my demeanor, no comforting sense of love. So to all, Christians. How do you respond? Where's Jesus? But, then again, should I even have to look for the God of the universe and his presence which pervades everything in existence? espoac
A change in your life is never instantaneous. Jesus loves you and wants to make your life better. If you would like to PM me, I'll do my best to answer any questions you have and I'll tell you a true story. . .:)
So what, I'm supposed to feel his love gradually? Why can't I feel his love at all? I should.This is what 2 Baptist preachers and a Catholic preist have told me.It's hard to decribe for me. Feel free to PM me any time you'd like.
Loving how the OP skips past all the peoples good posts and gets to the negative bits and quotes the people who say bad things and argues with them, maybe thats part of your problem.Jowell91All the positive posts? Like "my God is dead" or "I pushed Jesus out of the way on the slide in pre-school." And if someone posts for example, "have faith, God loves you", well that's just not constructive. Faith only got me so far.
Well if you talk to your pastor or a priest I think you should also talk to an athiest. Get both sides of the story. I personally felt like you my entire life and with my logic and reason i came to the conclusion that all religions are just made by men. Some good intentioned and some just in it for thier own gain.
 As long as im here i wanna ask the religious people a question. If God knows all then he knows when he created me that i would not beleive in him and go to hell. Why would he create me? Now dont tell me he gave me free will because he stills know what im going to do with my free will and hence knows im going to hell. And why did he create people just to love him, knowing that he would send some of these things that have feelings and emotions into eternal suffering?Â
[QUOTE="Jowell91"]Loving how the OP skips past all the peoples good posts and gets to the negative bits and quotes the people who say bad things and argues with them, maybe thats part of your problem.espoacAll the positive posts? Like "my God is dead" or "I pushed Jesus out of the way on the slide in pre-school." And if someone posts for example, "have faith, God loves you", well that's just not constructive. Faith only got me so far.Thats the thing. Religion requires faith. Maybe your looking for the wrong thing.
I'm an atheist and I think religion is nothing more than an ignorant state of mind, but if you consider that Jesus might not like you, then you obviously have no faith. According to your beliefs, or what you should believe, Jesus loves EVERYONE, REGARDLESS. He doesn't like you just because you haven't fully let him into your heart and soul? That sounds like the guy who says his best friend hates him because he won't share his ice cream.
Maybe religion just isn't for you.Â
If you want to feel loved you should look to your family and close friends and realise how much they care for you. View the wonders of this natural world. You won't find what you seek by simply praying.
Well, you should look if it's important to you, but there's never a guarantee you'll find anything. Don't take our advice too seriously, though. Talk to someone whom you trust and who is familiar with the topic--maybe a priest or pastor you like. Elraptor
Yeah but if you're going to go talk to a priest make sure you're 15 or older, or accompanied by an adult.
[QUOTE="icstars2"]its because you never paid him that $20.00 he gave you :Psyorks
Someone already said that joke. if your going to post a joke at least let it be original.
It's because you never paid him back that $40.00 he lent you.
its because you never paid him that $20.00 he gave you :Picstars2
Steelin my jokes, eh? *points shotgun at you* >_>
Jesus died a long time ago...and he's never coming back. Denjin_hadouken
lol that post reminded me of the end of Point Break.
Picture it - jesus out on the surf board riding a massive killer wave, the feds are waiting for him back on the beach, and Keanu says - he aint comin back
wow poetic or what?Â
[QUOTE="Denjin_hadouken"]Jesus died a long time ago...and he's never coming back. vitriolboy
lol that post reminded me of the end of Point Break.
Picture it - jesus out on the surf board riding a massive killer wave, the feds are waiting for him back on the beach, and Keanu says - he aint comin back
wow poetic or what?
:lol: Best. Movie. Ending. Ever.-------------------------------------------------------------------------Â
Your wants become your needs, and your needs become your wants.
Maybe you want it so bad you think you need it (that loving feeling) just because others talk about it themselves.
Maybe you already had what you needed, you just didn't recognise it. Oxygen is g000d
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I'll tell you a story. I used to be Christian. I took everything on faith. When I was about 14 though I started to have doubts. My Baptist grandmother always told me about this little prayer to recite if I ever doubted Jesus. One day I discovered the definite way to cast away all my doubts. The only problem was that it could also crush my beliefs. I would pray sincerely and wholeheartedly to Jesus to come into my life so I could feel his loving embrace that many of my peers had told me about. So I did. And then I recited the prayer again and agian...nothing. Does Jesus not like me. I was absolutely sincere in my prayer yet I sensed nothing, no change in my demeanor, no comforting sense of love. So to all, Christians. How do you respond? Where's Jesus? But, then again, should I even have to look for the God of the universe and his presence which pervades everything in existence? espoac
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he probably hates you because you arent ethnically jewish.
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Start praising yourself, and if you ever need guidence look to the gods of pagan europe. The tales of them survive to this very day.Â
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