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#1 wiistation36000
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Ok, this seems like a good idea to me, but I don't know what you guys think.

Instead of completely changing the health care system, why not just give every American a decent wad of cash that must be spent on health insurance per month. This way people would get the care they need, the insurance companies would prosper (sure, they're filthy rich as it is, but if it helps the people as well why not?), and not much* money would be spent in the end.

*Ok, that actually would come out to a hefty sum, but nothing compared to what they're proposing.

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All I read was "Obama", "give", and "money". Sounds like a good idea.

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Because we're not in Europe. v.v

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Ok, this seems like a good idea to me, but I don't know what you guys think.

Instead of completely changing the health care system, why not just give every American a decent wad of cash that must be spent on health insurance per month. This way people would get the care they need, the insurance companies would prosper (sure, they're filthy rich as it is, but if it helps the people as well why not?), and not much* money would be spent in the end.

*Ok, that actually would come out to a hefty sum, but nothing compared to what they're proposing.

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This is a horrible idea.. most people don't have the ability to manage their own money when it comes to things like health care and would use it on useless stuff like plastic surgery.
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#6 wiistation36000
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All I read was "Obama", "give", and "money". Sounds like a good idea.

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And who do you think pays for that "wad" of chash?! The government doesn't pay for anyting. The people do.

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Because every, well most, Americans wouldn't spend a "wad of cash" on health insurance.

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#9 -Sun_Tzu-
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That's pretty much what he is doing. The whole reason the health care bill costs so much is because of subsidies for people who need help buying insurance.
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This would not fix the numerous problems the system has including its increasing costs, the loopholes, as well as distasteful practices like the ones that relate to pre-existing conditions.
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#11 wiistation36000
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[QUOTE="wiistation36000"]

Ok, this seems like a good idea to me, but I don't know what you guys think.

Instead of completely changing the health care system, why not just give every American a decent wad of cash that must be spent on health insurance per month. This way people would get the care they need, the insurance companies would prosper (sure, they're filthy rich as it is, but if it helps the people as well why not?), and not much* money would be spent in the end.

*Ok, that actually would come out to a hefty sum, but nothing compared to what they're proposing.

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This is a horrible idea.. most people don't have the ability to manage their own money when it comes to things like health care and would use it on useless stuff like plastic surgery.

Not if it would be given out like food stamps. The "stamps" would only be optional though, and only go to those who are currently uninsured.
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Ok, this seems like a good idea to me, but I don't know what you guys think.

Instead of completely changing the health care system, why not just give every American a decent wad of cash that must be spent on health insurance per month. This way people would get the care they need, the insurance companies would prosper (sure, they're filthy rich as it is, but if it helps the people as well why not?), and not much* money would be spent in the end.

*Ok, that actually would come out to a hefty sum, but nothing compared to what they're proposing.

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if they did that, they could easily jsut jack the prices up. The prices our healthcare companies pick is largely arbitrary
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This would not fix the numerous problems the system has including its increasing costs, the loopholes, as well as distasteful practices like the ones that relate to pre-existing conditions.sSubZerOo

But how does government run healthcare fix the rising costs and all the other problems?

Like I said, there are better options out there, but I think anything besides universal healthcare would work.

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All I read was "Obama", "give", and "money". Sounds like a good idea.

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That still doesn't help people who can't get health insurance because of pre-existing conditions.
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#16 wiistation36000
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[QUOTE="wiistation36000"]

Ok, this seems like a good idea to me, but I don't know what you guys think.

Instead of completely changing the health care system, why not just give every American a decent wad of cash that must be spent on health insurance per month. This way people would get the care they need, the insurance companies would prosper (sure, they're filthy rich as it is, but if it helps the people as well why not?), and not much* money would be spent in the end.

*Ok, that actually would come out to a hefty sum, but nothing compared to what they're proposing.

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if they did that, they could easily jsut jack the prices up. The prices our healthcare companies pick is largely arbitrary

Competition also needs to be encouraged, for instance, advertising out of state.
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#17 wiistation36000
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That still doesn't help people who can't get health insurance because of pre-existing conditions.Tauruslink
Something special could be constructed for the ones with pre-existing conditions. After all, most americans are insured, so completely changing ALL of it is too much money spent.
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[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"][QUOTE="wiistation36000"]

Ok, this seems like a good idea to me, but I don't know what you guys think.

Instead of completely changing the health care system, why not just give every American a decent wad of cash that must be spent on health insurance per month. This way people would get the care they need, the insurance companies would prosper (sure, they're filthy rich as it is, but if it helps the people as well why not?), and not much* money would be spent in the end.

*Ok, that actually would come out to a hefty sum, but nothing compared to what they're proposing.

wiistation36000
if they did that, they could easily jsut jack the prices up. The prices our healthcare companies pick is largely arbitrary

Competition also needs to be encouraged, for instance, advertising out of state.

So then the majority of healthcare companies will decide on a general price, t he same way most business does now. They can buy up all the other smaller insurance companies to removal competition while leaving 4 or 5 companies around to avoid anti trust laws. Then thegovernment needs to send out more money than originally needed. All of this is just easier with single payer What you advocate gives no garuntee
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or u could make health care free, like every other developed country in the world... sheeesh...
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#20 wiistation36000
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[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"][QUOTE="wiistation36000"][QUOTE="Free_Marxet"] if they did that, they could easily jsut jack the prices up. The prices our healthcare companies pick is largely arbitrary

Competition also needs to be encouraged, for instance, advertising out of state.

So then the majority of healthcare companies will decide on a general price, t he same way most business does now. They can buy up all the other smaller insurance companies to removal competition while leaving 4 or 5 companies around to avoid anti trust laws. Then thegovernment needs to send out more money than originally needed. All of this is just easier with single payer What you advocate gives no garuntee

If companies can do everything you just listed, then why haven't they? Also, I don't think a single-payer system would work, given the current state of the economy.
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or u could make health care free, like every other developed country in the world... sheeesh...yarou1000
Health care arn't free in those countries.. They are paid through taxes.
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#22 MasterBolt360
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[QUOTE="MasterBolt360"]

All I read was "Obama", "give", and "money". Sounds like a good idea.

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[QUOTE="wiistation36000"][QUOTE="Free_Marxet"][QUOTE="wiistation36000"] Competition also needs to be encouraged, for instance, advertising out of state.

So then the majority of healthcare companies will decide on a general price, t he same way most business does now. They can buy up all the other smaller insurance companies to removal competition while leaving 4 or 5 companies around to avoid anti trust laws. Then thegovernment needs to send out more money than originally needed. All of this is just easier with single payer What you advocate gives no garuntee

If companies can do everything you just listed, then why haven't they? Also, I don't think a single-payer system would work, given the current state of the economy.

They have. Most businesses settle on a general price with very little variation most of the time. Single payer would work fine. The people who had private sector jobs can mostly migrate to government and have a much much more secure life.
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So, basically you want him to tax the rich to pay for the healthcare of the poor. That's exactly what he wants to do.
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or u could make health care free, like every other developed country in the world... sheeesh...yarou1000
Oh yeah that's a great idea. Let's all try that, don't pay for anything and it'll all work itself out! :)
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#26 Pyro767
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[QUOTE="Pyro767"][QUOTE="MasterBolt360"]

All I read was "Obama", "give", and "money". Sounds like a good idea.

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So, basically you want him to tax the rich to pay for the healthcare of the poor. That's exactly what he wants to do.Rocky32189
I thought everyone paid taxes?
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[QUOTE="Rocky32189"]So, basically you want him to tax the rich to pay for the healthcare of the poor. That's exactly what he wants to do.wiistation36000
I thought everyone paid taxes?

The amount you are taxed is based on your income level.
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[QUOTE="wiistation36000"][QUOTE="Rocky32189"]So, basically you want him to tax the rich to pay for the healthcare of the poor. That's exactly what he wants to do.Rocky32189
I thought everyone paid taxes?

The amount you are taxed is based on your income level.

I know, what does that have to do with healthcare?
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[QUOTE="yarou1000"]or u could make health care free, like every other developed country in the world... sheeesh...sSubZerOo
Health care arn't free in those countries.. They are paid through taxes.

yes but comparatively health care is way cheaper in the UK and Canada than in the US because our doctors and hospitals are paid through the government, instead of being paid by the patient... i don't understand the doctors working in private hospitals; your profession is to help sick people, but you seem to only be doing it for the money. Money should never come in the way of a persons life, and i feel that every core country, except for the US has gotten this message, while the US is trying to make as much profit as possible off of their own citizen's injuries...
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="yarou1000"]or u could make health care free, like every other developed country in the world... sheeesh...yarou1000
Health care arn't free in those countries.. They are paid through taxes.

yes but comparatively health care is way cheaper in the UK and Canada than in the US because our doctors and hospitals are paid through the government, instead of being paid by the patient... i don't understand the doctors working in private hospitals; your profession is to help sick people, but you seem to only be doing it for the money. Money should never come in the way of a persons life, and i feel that every core country, except for the US has gotten this message, while the US is trying to make as much profit as possible off of their own citizen's injuries...

When you figure in malpractice insurance, you start to sympathize with the docs.

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[QUOTE="yarou1000"]or u could make health care free, like every other developed country in the world... sheeesh...wiistation36000
Oh yeah that's a great idea. Let's all try that, don't pay for anything and it'll all work itself out! :)

no u do pay for your health care... it is just paid through ur taxes, and most likely cheaper than insurance not to mention adding it to taxes makes it a requirement not an option. It is something you are entitled to not, something you can have if you are rich. I also feels it results in a tighter feel of nationality... everybody is paying for each other, and everybody knows if they ever need a heart transplant, or a tumor removed, their fellow canadians have the covered. And it is a mutual feeling through out i would like to think...
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Ok, this seems like a good idea to me, but I don't know what you guys think.

Instead of completely changing the health care system, why not just give every American a decent wad of cash that must be spent on health insurance per month. This way people would get the care they need, the insurance companies would prosper (sure, they're filthy rich as it is, but if it helps the people as well why not?), and not much* money would be spent in the end.

*Ok, that actually would come out to a hefty sum, but nothing compared to what they're proposing.

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So let me get this straight... You want Obama to take government money and hand it back to the people to spend on health care...money that comes from taxpayers. -so he is going to take my money, then give it back to me, and tell me how to spend it...me thinks I will just cut out the middle man
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[QUOTE="wiistation36000"][QUOTE="Rocky32189"][QUOTE="wiistation36000"] I thought everyone paid taxes?

The amount you are taxed is based on your income level.

I know, what does that have to do with healthcare?

Universal healthcare would be paid for by taxes.
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[QUOTE="yarou1000"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Health care arn't free in those countries.. They are paid through taxes.wiistation36000

yes but comparatively health care is way cheaper in the UK and Canada than in the US because our doctors and hospitals are paid through the government, instead of being paid by the patient... i don't understand the doctors working in private hospitals; your profession is to help sick people, but you seem to only be doing it for the money. Money should never come in the way of a persons life, and i feel that every core country, except for the US has gotten this message, while the US is trying to make as much profit as possible off of their own citizen's injuries...

When you figure in malpractice insurance, you start to sympathize with the docs.

That is not a reason to refuse health care to the needy because of their financial status. maybe people should realzie that doctors dont have the ability to look into the future and see which option was the best. They make the decision with what they thought was the best course of action, and tried their hardest. If your feelings are hurt from a loss of a loved one under the knife, that doesnt mean sue the guy holding the knife, so that he/she can never help anyone again.
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[QUOTE="wiistation36000"][QUOTE="yarou1000"]or u could make health care free, like every other developed country in the world... sheeesh...yarou1000
Oh yeah that's a great idea. Let's all try that, don't pay for anything and it'll all work itself out! :)

no u do pay for your health care... it is just paid through ur taxes, and most likely cheaper than insurance not to mention adding it to taxes makes it a requirement not an option. It is something you are entitled to not, something you can have if you are rich. I also feels it results in a tighter feel of nationality... everybody is paying for each other, and everybody knows if they ever need a heart transplant, or a tumor removed, their fellow canadians have the covered. And it is a mutual feeling through out i would like to think...

How is it cheaper? You're directly paying for the actual operation through taxes. That's a good point, but I think I should be allowed to help other people out at my own discretion.
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[QUOTE="yarou1000"] yes but comparatively health care is way cheaper in the UK and Canada than in the US because our doctors and hospitals are paid through the government, instead of being paid by the patient... i don't understand the doctors working in private hospitals; your profession is to help sick people, but you seem to only be doing it for the money. Money should never come in the way of a persons life, and i feel that every core country, except for the US has gotten this message, while the US is trying to make as much profit as possible off of their own citizen's injuries...yarou1000

When you figure in malpractice insurance, you start to sympathize with the docs.

I didn't say refuse healthcare to the needy. Unfortunately, most people don't think like you, so it won't work. That is not a reason to refuse health care to the needy because of their financial status. maybe people should realzie that doctors dont have the ability to look into the future and see which option was the best. They make the decision with what they thought was the best course of action, and tried their hardest. If your feelings are hurt from a loss of a loved one under the knife, that doesnt mean sue the guy holding the knife, so that he/she can never help anyone again.

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[QUOTE="wiistation36000"][QUOTE="yarou1000"][QUOTE="wiistation36000"] Oh yeah that's a great idea. Let's all try that, don't pay for anything and it'll all work itself out! :)

no u do pay for your health care... it is just paid through ur taxes, and most likely cheaper than insurance not to mention adding it to taxes makes it a requirement not an option. It is something you are entitled to not, something you can have if you are rich. I also feels it results in a tighter feel of nationality... everybody is paying for each other, and everybody knows if they ever need a heart transplant, or a tumor removed, their fellow canadians have the covered. And it is a mutual feeling through out i would like to think...

How is it cheaper? You're directly paying for the actual operation through taxes. That's a good point, but I think I should be allowed to help other people out at my own discretion.

ok would u rather pay 500 dollars in taxes ( i made this figure up i dont know the exact numbers) or pay that 500,000 for the heart, and heart transplant you need to live? Basically its risk and reward... u might never develope cancer or any other disease and will never need to pay fro medical, but what if you do develop something that requires expensive treatments but can not afford it? will you die knowing that the only thing killing you was the greed of yourself and your fellow american? Also on the second part about your discretion, isnt the man needing funds for his life being an american, your fellow country man/woman, some one that could have kids, a wife, a husband, a mother, a father enough to make you think if i give a little and my neighbour gives a little, and we can save that man/woman instead of see him dead?
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Ok, this seems like a good idea to me, but I don't know what you guys think.

Instead of completely changing the health care system, why not just give every American a decent wad of cash that must be spent on health insurance per month. This way people would get the care they need, the insurance companies would prosper (sure, they're filthy rich as it is, but if it helps the people as well why not?), and not much* money would be spent in the end.

*Ok, that actually would come out to a hefty sum, but nothing compared to what they're proposing.

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So let me get this straight... You want Obama to take government money and hand it back to the people to spend on health care...money that comes from taxpayers. -so he is going to take my money, then give it back to me, and tell me how to spend it...me thinks I will just cut out the middle man

Getting money back from the government is good, it's called tax breaks :? He already takes money in taxes, I really hope you're not trying to say we shouldn't have tax. Not everyone (in fact, I bet a lot of people won't) spend it on healthcare, and then they'll just complain about not having it.
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[QUOTE="yarou1000"][QUOTE="wiistation36000"] When you figure in malpractice insurance, you start to sympathize with the docs.

wiistation36000

I didn't say refuse healthcare to the needy. Unfortunately, most people don't think like you, so it won't work. That is not a reason to refuse health care to the needy because of their financial status. maybe people should realzie that doctors dont have the ability to look into the future and see which option was the best. They make the decision with what they thought was the best course of action, and tried their hardest. If your feelings are hurt from a loss of a loved one under the knife, that doesnt mean sue the guy holding the knife, so that he/she can never help anyone again.

i know you didnt but that is what happens when money is the thing that is keeping people alive or not... and people are always changing... they need to realize something a man born in the late 1800's realized, that goes by the name of Norman Peale, and he said "change your thoughts and you change your world" ...

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#41 wiistation36000
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[QUOTE="yarou1000"][QUOTE="wiistation36000"][QUOTE="yarou1000"] no u do pay for your health care... it is just paid through ur taxes, and most likely cheaper than insurance not to mention adding it to taxes makes it a requirement not an option. It is something you are entitled to not, something you can have if you are rich. I also feels it results in a tighter feel of nationality... everybody is paying for each other, and everybody knows if they ever need a heart transplant, or a tumor removed, their fellow canadians have the covered. And it is a mutual feeling through out i would like to think...

How is it cheaper? You're directly paying for the actual operation through taxes. That's a good point, but I think I should be allowed to help other people out at my own discretion.

ok would u rather pay 500 dollars in taxes ( i made this figure up i dont know the exact numbers) or pay that 500,000 for the heart, and heart transplant you need to live? Basically its risk and reward... u might never develope cancer or any other disease and will never need to pay fro medical, but what if you do develop something that requires expensive treatments but can not afford it? will you die knowing that the only thing killing you was the greed of yourself and your fellow american? Also on the second part about your discretion, isnt the man needing funds for his life being an american, your fellow country man/woman, some one that could have kids, a wife, a husband, a mother, a father enough to make you think if i give a little and my neighbour gives a little, and we can save that man/woman instead of see him dead?

1 Do you even understand what I'm trying to say? 500 dollars would be given to you for you to pay for insurance, so you WOULDN'T have to pay 500,000 for a heart transplant. 500,000 divided by a few neighbors is more than a little.
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#42 wiistation36000
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[QUOTE="Rocky32189"][QUOTE="wiistation36000"][QUOTE="Rocky32189"] The amount you are taxed is based on your income level.

I know, what does that have to do with healthcare?

Universal healthcare would be paid for by taxes.

It's still taxing everyone though, even though it's not equal. So sure it's going to tax the rich more than it will the poor, just like firestations, police stations public services etc tax the rich more than they do the poor.
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#43 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="wiistation36000"]

Ok, this seems like a good idea to me, but I don't know what you guys think.

Instead of completely changing the health care system, why not just give every American a decent wad of cash that must be spent on health insurance per month. This way people would get the care they need, the insurance companies would prosper (sure, they're filthy rich as it is, but if it helps the people as well why not?), and not much* money would be spent in the end.

*Ok, that actually would come out to a hefty sum, but nothing compared to what they're proposing.

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So let me get this straight... You want Obama to take government money and hand it back to the people to spend on health care...money that comes from taxpayers. -so he is going to take my money, then give it back to me, and tell me how to spend it...me thinks I will just cut out the middle man

Getting money back from the government is good, it's called tax breaks :? He already takes money in taxes, I really hope you're not trying to say we shouldn't have tax. Not everyone (in fact, I bet a lot of people won't) spend it on healthcare, and then they'll just complain about not having it.

Not what I said at all. I have no problem paying taxes...I quite like the things my government provides (roads, protection, etc.). I just think it is stupid to take my money, then turn around and give it back, and then tell me how to spend it...it would rather keep it like it is or nationalize it And what you are saying is not a tax break... In your scenario, we would be paying more taxes, then getting that extra amount back...pointless The only way it is a "break" is we pay the same amount we do now and get more back...do you expect the gov. to run off of less money
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#44 deactivated-5bc291bf3d647
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[QUOTE="wiistation36000"][QUOTE="yarou1000"][QUOTE="wiistation36000"] How is it cheaper? You're directly paying for the actual operation through taxes. That's a good point, but I think I should be allowed to help other people out at my own discretion.

ok would u rather pay 500 dollars in taxes ( i made this figure up i dont know the exact numbers) or pay that 500,000 for the heart, and heart transplant you need to live? Basically its risk and reward... u might never develope cancer or any other disease and will never need to pay fro medical, but what if you do develop something that requires expensive treatments but can not afford it? will you die knowing that the only thing killing you was the greed of yourself and your fellow american? Also on the second part about your discretion, isnt the man needing funds for his life being an american, your fellow country man/woman, some one that could have kids, a wife, a husband, a mother, a father enough to make you think if i give a little and my neighbour gives a little, and we can save that man/woman instead of see him dead?

1 Do you even understand what I'm trying to say? 500 dollars would be given to you for you to pay for insurance, so you WOULDN'T have to pay 500,000 for a heart transplant. 500,000 divided by a few neighbors is more than a little.

the problem with your idea is that it rullies on the PRIVATE insurance companies way to much... Giving the money tot the government (people who are watched globally) is a lot safer and more secure strategy than giving money to a 3rd man who might just screw you over... and thats 1000 people to make 500, 000 dollars if each contributes 500 dollars... so considering the size of the US its a miniscule amount of people...
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#45 wiistation36000
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@rawsavon I give up on the quoting thing. Anyway... 1. I didn't mean to say it was a taxbreak. 2. In order for it to work we need to make up for it by cutting spending (any complaints? :|)
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#46 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="wiistation36000"]@rawsavon I give up on the quoting thing. Anyway... 1. I didn't mean to say it was a taxbreak. 2. In order for it to work we need to make up for it by cutting spending (any complaints? :|)

depends on what you are going to cut. -getting the gov. to run more efficiently would be a better goal IMO
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#47 ZookGuy
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[QUOTE="wiistation36000"][QUOTE="Rocky32189"][QUOTE="wiistation36000"] I thought everyone paid taxes?

The amount you are taxed is based on your income level.

I know, what does that have to do with healthcare?

Health care is paid by the government, the government gets money through taxes.
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#48 cell_dweller  Moderator
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How about we spend more money teaching kids how to be healthy and such, that way, when they get older, they don't NEED to go to the doctor so much?
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#49 wiistation36000
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="wiistation36000"]@rawsavon I give up on the quoting thing. Anyway... 1. I didn't mean to say it was a taxbreak. 2. In order for it to work we need to make up for it by cutting spending (any complaints? :|)

depends on what you are going to cut. -getting the gov. to run more efficiently would be a better goal IMO

We could start with the funding going to A.C.O.R.N. :P That being said, and (bad) spending was cut, would you agree with my idea? Why or why not?
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#50 rawsavon
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How about we spend more money teaching kids how to be healthy and such, that way, when they get older, they don't NEED to go to the doctor so much?cell_dweller
and add in more preventative medical care an oil change is a lot less expensive than a new engine