Why g@y is wrong, (to Christians) (atheists keep out)

I heard that many homosexuals aren't really, um, homosexual, they just have such low self esteem and had a hard childhood, etc etc.joefish84

I heard that many homosexuals aren't really, um, homosexual, they just have such low self esteem and had a hard childhood, etc etc.joefish84

Yeah, that makes sense considering that a lot of homosexuals tend to come under the scrutiny of people who disagree with their lifestyle. So obviously if they want to avoid having to go through the torment of their childhood again, they'd obviously change their sexual orientation to fit the standards of what is considered to be socially unacceptable by most standards. Makes perfect sense.

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]

The very first thing God told us to do was to be fruitful and subdue the earth.

mindstorm

Meh, I think that not reproducing is more fruitful these days. At least it slows overpopulation.

But I still don't think refusing to reproduce should be shunned on.

I disagree. Why did god let so many of his animals have homosexual sex? Religion against homosexuality fails. Why don't you all worry about helping others instead of bashing people.btaylor2404

I can't imagine that the animals would not have commited homosexual acts before the fall of man.

I'm not sure if you consider me bashing others in stating my views but I will say that I do not neglect my duties in helping others.

Ahh Mindstorm your never over the top about it, but it gets old. How many here are grown adults who know other grown adults that are gay If you do, and you've talked to them you realize that it's not a choice, why would they, it's just the way they were born. To me it goes against the teachings of Jesus to go after a group of people over and over, that don't deserve it, when there are so many other things wrong in the world.

The bible tells you to kill homosexuals too, is that the right thing to do by you Christians?ElectronicMagic

[QUOTE="wallymartin"]

The polygamists were right?! :o

Hewkii

you mean the Mormons? ;)

They are not affiliated with the Mormon Church. ;)

[QUOTE="joefish84"]I heard that many homosexuals aren't really, um, homosexual, they just have such low self esteem and had a hard childhood, etc etc.Blood-Scribe

Yeah, that makes sense considering that a lot of homosexuals tend to come under the scrutiny of people who disagree with their lifestyle. So obviously if they want to avoid having to go through the torment of their childhood again, they'd obviously change their sexual orientation to fit the standards of what is considered to be socially unacceptable by most standards. Makes perfect sense.

:lol: That's what I was thinking too.

so what you saying is that we all HAVE to have sex and try to make as much babes as possible. and since you want us to have babies you must also hate condoms.

and does that mean you HATE lesbian pornography to

[QUOTE="ElectronicMagic"]The bible tells you to kill homosexuals too, is that the right thing to do by you Christians?mindstorm

So the whole part in Leviticus is void in your opinion? You guys pick and choose what parts of the bible you like and what parts you don't. However it is impossible to follow the bible because of it's numerous contradictions like the one you just pointed out, in one part it says to kill homosexuals, in another it says something else.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]

The very first thing God told us to do was to be fruitful and subdue the earth.

btaylor2404

Meh, I think that not reproducing is more fruitful these days. At least it slows overpopulation.

But I still don't think refusing to reproduce should be shunned on.

I disagree. Why did god let so many of his animals have homosexual sex? Religion against homosexuality fails. Why don't you all worry about helping others instead of bashing people.btaylor2404

I can't imagine that the animals would not have commited homosexual acts before the fall of man.

I'm not sure if you consider me bashing others in stating my views but I will say that I do not neglect my duties in helping others.

Ahh Mindstorm your never over the top about it, but it gets old. How many here are grown adults who know other grown adults that are gay If you do, and you've talked to them you realize that it's not a choice, why would they, it's just the way they were born. To me it goes against the teachings of Jesus to go after a group of people over and over, that don't deserve it, when there are so many other things wrong in the world.

and does that mean you HATE lesbian pornography to

pyr0_d3th

There's plenty of people on here that I've seen that have double-standards concerning homosexuality that favor lesbians but not gay men.

It'd probably be better if we didn't go down that road in this thread.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="ElectronicMagic"]The bible tells you to kill homosexuals too, is that the right thing to do by you Christians?ElectronicMagic

So the whole part in Leviticus is void in your opinion? You guys pick and choose what parts of the bible you like and what parts you don't. However it is impossible to follow the bible because of it's numerous contradictions like the one you just pointed out, in one part it says to kill homosexuals, in another it says something else.

I heard that many homosexuals aren't really, um, homosexual, they just have such low self esteem and had a hard childhood, etc etc.joefish84

I was talking to my friend, and he is g@y, and I finally realized why its a sin. It was a bit of an epiphinay for me.

When God created man and woman, he made them capatible for sex, hence creating new children in his name. God told us, we need to spread the Word of Christ so that more people may join him in Heaven. He made man and woman to have sex so that more humans could be created so that we may teach them about the words, and they can spread the word. The more Christians, the more people going to heaven, hence having sex to create them so there are more.
I knever really thought about this untill thought why. We should still love and respect homosexuals, and they are human just like us (believe it or not =) ) But they are sinning in the fact that they are not making more children of Gods name.

In the end, Hooray For Sex!

Boo for g@ys :P

*discuss*

clash76-grunger

Gays can adopt, this turning potential non-Christians (i.e. Chinese orphans) into Christians.

That is why your argument doesnt work; nice try, though, it definately makes a lot of sense. Also, I am glad that you accept and tolerate gays and even make friendships with them despite you faith.

WIth that said, quit looking for reasons to bash gays and just...move on. Theyre here to stay so the sooner you make peace with that fact, the sooner you will have one less thing to worry about. God created man in his own image, so god was like 15% gay.

I am not a Christian, and I disagree. There, I defied your silly poll.Blood-Scribe

Signed for truth.

[QUOTE="ElectronicMagic"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="ElectronicMagic"]The bible tells you to kill homosexuals too, is that the right thing to do by you Christians?mindstorm

So the whole part in Leviticus is void in your opinion? You guys pick and choose what parts of the bible you like and what parts you don't. However it is impossible to follow the bible because of it's numerous contradictions like the one you just pointed out, in one part it says to kill homosexuals, in another it says something else.

In that case then that is still a part of your "law". So which is it? Apart of the law or null and void. I don't see Christians killing homosexuals, all I see is Christians who want to but don't because of the real law of the land.

But homosexuals can have children.

Being gay isn't wrong.

People need to worry about themselves instead of others sexual preference

I'm an atheist and I think your ideas against gays are wrong.

I disobeyed your rules.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="ElectronicMagic"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="ElectronicMagic"]The bible tells you to kill homosexuals too, is that the right thing to do by you Christians?ElectronicMagic

So the whole part in Leviticus is void in your opinion? You guys pick and choose what parts of the bible you like and what parts you don't. However it is impossible to follow the bible because of it's numerous contradictions like the one you just pointed out, in one part it says to kill homosexuals, in another it says something else.

In that case then that is still a part of your "law". So which is it? Apart of the law or null and void. I don't see Christians killing homosexuals, all I see is Christians who want to but don't because of the real law of the land.

For me to explain all of this would require me to write a great deal about Christianity as a whole and I simply do not have the time unless you are genuinely seeking to know more about Christianity. That offer goes to anyone btw. If any has a genuine question and is not simply trying to catch me off guard (like generally happens) then ask away.

Killing them would be a complete contridiction of what the New Testament teaches and whether people believe it or not, the Old Testament as well. Both Testaments speak of the same God.

For me to explain all of this would require me to write a great deal about Christianity as a whole and I simply do not have the time unless you are genuinely seeking to know more about Christianity. That offer goes to anyone btw. If any has a genuine question and is not simply trying to catch me off guard (like generally happens) then ask away.

mindstorm

Yes, it would be a complete contradiction, it's what I said earlier about the numerous contradictions in the bible(both old and new testaments). I'm not going to ask you to further explain, the time it would take would be much more than I'm willing to devote to this topic. I wasn't trying to catch you off guard, I know you didn't say I was but I just wanted to make that clear. I just wanted to know how you as a Christian rationalized the contradiction of Leviticus saying that Christians should kill homosexuals and what Jesus said that you mentioned earlier. They both can't be right because they contradict each other and does anyone think a being such as a god would contradict itself?

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Killing them would be a complete contridiction of what the New Testament teaches and whether people believe it or not, the Old Testament as well. Both Testaments speak of the same God.

For me to explain all of this would require me to write a great deal about Christianity as a whole and I simply do not have the time unless you are genuinely seeking to know more about Christianity. That offer goes to anyone btw. If any has a genuine question and is not simply trying to catch me off guard (like generally happens) then ask away.

ElectronicMagic

Yes, it would be a complete contradiction, it's what I said earlier about the numerous contradictions in the bible(both old and new testaments). I'm not going to ask you to further explain, the time it would take would be much more than I'm willing to devote to this topic. I wasn't trying to catch you off guard, I know you didn't say I was but I just wanted to make that clear. I just wanted to know how you as a Christian rationalized the contradiction of Leviticus saying that Christians should kill homosexuals and what Jesus said that you mentioned earlier. They both can't be right because they contradict each other and does anyone think a being such as a god would contradict itself?

OH EM GEE, I am teh Xstian & teh G@y-sauce is going the currupt meh society & turn me into an anas-n00b :(

-Sob

So according to you, straight people who do not have babies are also sinning?Englando_IV

Goddamnit im going to hell

What about Priests, Nuns, and chastity people? Are they sinning too?mayforcebeyou

So I take it you have 100000000 kids? I mean, if you don't, then you obviously have no respect for God, considering the more kids you have the more souls in heaven? Correct?trix5817

I was talking to my friend, and he is g@y, and I finally realized why its a sin. It was a bit of an epiphinay for me.

When God created man and woman, he made them capatible for sex, hence creating new children in his name. God told us, we need to spread the Word of Christ so that more people may join him in Heaven. He made man and woman to have sex so that more humans could be created so that we may teach them about the words, and they can spread the word. The more Christians, the more people going to heaven, hence having sex to create them so there are more.
I knever really thought about this untill thought why. We should still love and respect homosexuals, and they are human just like us (believe it or not =) ) But they are sinning in the fact that they are not making more children of Gods name.

In the end, Hooray For Sex!

Boo for g@ys :P

*discuss*

clash76-grunger

The agnostic crashin the party...wooooooo!

Are you like in some sort of polygamist sect or something? You basically said that God doesn't love you unless you procreate as much as possible which is a ridiculous. Do you realize the Earth is facing overpopulation? You and you wife (your husband depending on how you swing) should have (or adopt,depending on how you swing;)) the amount of kids you need to be a happy family.

[QUOTE="mayforcebeyou"]What about Priests, Nuns, and chastity people? Are they sinning too?mindstorm

So I take it you have 100000000 kids? I mean, if you don't, then you obviously have no respect for God, considering the more kids you have the more souls in heaven? Correct?trix5817

That message was intended for the TC, hence the quote...

[QUOTE="clash76-grunger"]

I was talking to my friend, and he is g@y, and I finally realized why its a sin. It was a bit of an epiphinay for me.

When God created man and woman, he made them capatible for sex, hence creating new children in his name. God told us, we need to spread the Word of Christ so that more people may join him in Heaven. He made man and woman to have sex so that more humans could be created so that we may teach them about the words, and they can spread the word. The more Christians, the more people going to heaven, hence having sex to create them so there are more.
I knever really thought about this untill thought why. We should still love and respect homosexuals, and they are human just like us (believe it or not =) ) But they are sinning in the fact that they are not making more children of Gods name.

In the end, Hooray For Sex!

Boo for g@ys :P

*discuss*

-Austin-

The agnostic crashin the party...wooooooo!

Are you like in some sort of polygamist sect or something? You basically said that God doesn't love you unless you procreate as much as possible which is a ridiculous. Do you realize the Earth is facing overpopulation? You and you wife (your husband depending on how you swing) should have (or adopt,depending on how you swing;)) the amount of kids you need to be a happy family.

[QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="clash76-grunger"]

I was talking to my friend, and he is g@y, and I finally realized why its a sin. It was a bit of an epiphinay for me.

When God created man and woman, he made them capatible for sex, hence creating new children in his name. God told us, we need to spread the Word of Christ so that more people may join him in Heaven. He made man and woman to have sex so that more humans could be created so that we may teach them about the words, and they can spread the word. The more Christians, the more people going to heaven, hence having sex to create them so there are more.
I knever really thought about this untill thought why. We should still love and respect homosexuals, and they are human just like us (believe it or not =) ) But they are sinning in the fact that they are not making more children of Gods name.

In the end, Hooray For Sex!

Boo for g@ys :P

*discuss*

mindstorm

The agnostic crashin the party...wooooooo!

Are you like in some sort of polygamist sect or something? You basically said that God doesn't love you unless you procreate as much as possible which is a ridiculous. Do you realize the Earth is facing overpopulation? You and you wife (your husband depending on how you swing) should have (or adopt,depending on how you swing;)) the amount of kids you need to be a happy family.

You do realize that he quoted the TC right? He was trying to show why the TC's logic was totally and completely flawed.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="mayforcebeyou"]What about Priests, Nuns, and chastity people? Are they sinning too?trix5817

So I take it you have 100000000 kids? I mean, if you don't, then you obviously have no respect for God, considering the more kids you have the more souls in heaven? Correct?trix5817

That message was intended for the TC, hence the quote...

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="clash76-grunger"]

I was talking to my friend, and he is g@y, and I finally realized why its a sin. It was a bit of an epiphinay for me.

When God created man and woman, he made them capatible for sex, hence creating new children in his name. God told us, we need to spread the Word of Christ so that more people may join him in Heaven. He made man and woman to have sex so that more humans could be created so that we may teach them about the words, and they can spread the word. The more Christians, the more people going to heaven, hence having sex to create them so there are more.
I knever really thought about this untill thought why. We should still love and respect homosexuals, and they are human just like us (believe it or not =) ) But they are sinning in the fact that they are not making more children of Gods name.

In the end, Hooray For Sex!

Boo for g@ys :P

*discuss*

trix5817

The agnostic crashin the party...wooooooo!

Are you like in some sort of polygamist sect or something? You basically said that God doesn't love you unless you procreate as much as possible which is a ridiculous. Do you realize the Earth is facing overpopulation? You and you wife (your husband depending on how you swing) should have (or adopt,depending on how you swing;)) the amount of kids you need to be a happy family.

You do realize that he quoted the TC right? He was trying to show why the TC's logic was totally and completely flawed.

OH EM GEE, I am teh Xstian & teh G@y-sauce is going the currupt meh society & turn me into an anas-n00b :(

-Sob

*picture*

OH EM GEE, I am teh Xstian & teh G@y-sauce is going the currupt meh society & turn me into an anas-n00b :(

-Sob

CheezyFrog

[QUOTE="CheezyFrog"]

*picture*

OH EM GEE, I am teh Xstian & teh G@y-sauce is going the currupt meh society & turn me into an anas-n00b :(

-Sob

mindstorm

[QUOTE="CheezyFrog"]

*picture*

OH EM GEE, I am teh Xstian & teh G@y-sauce is going the currupt meh society & turn me into an anas-n00b :(

-Sob

mindstorm

To say no atheists allowed is quite unfair. But I will admit whenever we have a religion thread every single dumbass who also happens to be an atheist stumbles upon the thread and types "NO PROOF, LAWLZ U SUCK" to every Christian.

[QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="clash76-grunger"]

I was talking to my friend, and he is g@y, and I finally realized why its a sin. It was a bit of an epiphinay for me.

When God created man and woman, he made them capatible for sex, hence creating new children in his name. God told us, we need to spread the Word of Christ so that more people may join him in Heaven. He made man and woman to have sex so that more humans could be created so that we may teach them about the words, and they can spread the word. The more Christians, the more people going to heaven, hence having sex to create them so there are more.
I knever really thought about this untill thought why. We should still love and respect homosexuals, and they are human just like us (believe it or not =) ) But they are sinning in the fact that they are not making more children of Gods name.

In the end, Hooray For Sex!

Boo for g@ys :P

*discuss*

mindstorm

The agnostic crashin the party...wooooooo!

Are you like in some sort of polygamist sect or something? You basically said that God doesn't love you unless you procreate as much as possible which is a ridiculous. Do you realize the Earth is facing overpopulation? You and you wife (your husband depending on how you swing) should have (or adopt,depending on how you swing;)) the amount of kids you need to be a happy family.

You do realize that he quoted the TC right? He was trying to show why the TC's logic was totally and completely flawed.

You don't understand what the TC was trying to say though. He was trying to say that being gay is wrong because they can't create more people that will eventually end up in heaven (which he said was god's will). That's the logic which we were trying to point out was flawed.

I remember this guy I always saw at my aunt house and mine (every half year) he always wore sunglasses, had a funny laugh. Loved to talk a lot, he always seemed odd. Well one day he was at my aunts house and well, my aunt caught him looking at gay porn (looking at porn is deadly in itself), well we all found out he was gay So another day my aunt says she knows he is gay but does not rebuke him, but tolerates him. Then just last christmass (the time of year I am working constantly at retail), I come home, and suddenly he brings a homosexual boyfriend over. It was so odd, I mean I really dont like when some stranger of any form comes over to my house, and they looked very weird in themselves. The problem is my aunt tolerates it, but it only gets worst because he feels that he is accepted, the problem with tolerating it, is it get worst. Homosexuality is a very destructive practice, it is a disease, which causes other perversions (like old men wanting to have sex with young boys).

By the way he had a wife and two kids, so he cheated on his wife one day, she came home unexpectantly, and he had a man in their bed.

Soddom and Gormorahh are proof that homosexuality is wrong, especially when left unchecked, unchallenged. I mean the perversion, sodomy, and devil worship that comes along with it... Also it was a testimony that god does not tolerate homosexuality.

Yes it is a really hard emotion to get away with, but I have had a similiar problem, which in christ I have been able to defeat, I like being able to control my actions. To say they can't control, like it is biological is dehumanising at the least, it is a choice (a bad choice). Which the best way to help the situation is to admit it just isn't a good answer in life. Plus it makes no since whatsoever, there is a reason why woman exist, one they are a help mate, and two they are the door to children. The Earth is not really that overpopulated as people make the excuse why homosexuality does not matter, the problem is the distribution of resources is unevened (think about people who are largely overweight). God made a Earth that can sustain a vaste ammount of life.

"But really, shouldn't it be that sex is a sin, unless you get a woman pregnant, which doesn't always happen. And I'd rather more people not have babies, because frankly, I think the less babies, the less we have to worry about overpopulation. "

Sex is for marriage, what people dont get is, you can have sex all you want, just as long as your married, and only to your wife. It is not like you have genitals which are used just so substance can come out (ewwwww), and for like two time use, sex is also used for bonding, and yes pleasure. We are sexual animals

I was talking to my friend, and he is g@y, and I finally realized why its a sin. It was a bit of an epiphinay for me.

When God created man and woman, he made them capatible for sex, hence creating new children in his name. God told us, we need to spread the Word of Christ so that more people may join him in Heaven. He made man and woman to have sex so that more humans could be created so that we may teach them about the words, and they can spread the word. The more Christians, the more people going to heaven, hence having sex to create them so there are more.
I knever really thought about this untill thought why. We should still love and respect homosexuals, and they are human just like us (believe it or not =) ) But they are sinning in the fact that they are not making more children of Gods name.

In the end, Hooray For Sex!

Boo for g@ys :P

*discuss*

clash76-grunger

[QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="clash76-grunger"]

I was talking to my friend, and he is g@y, and I finally realized why its a sin. It was a bit of an epiphinay for me.

When God created man and woman, he made them capatible for sex, hence creating new children in his name. God told us, we need to spread the Word of Christ so that more people may join him in Heaven. He made man and woman to have sex so that more humans could be created so that we may teach them about the words, and they can spread the word. The more Christians, the more people going to heaven, hence having sex to create them so there are more.
I knever really thought about this untill thought why. We should still love and respect homosexuals, and they are human just like us (believe it or not =) ) But they are sinning in the fact that they are not making more children of Gods name.

In the end, Hooray For Sex!

Boo for g@ys :P

*discuss*

mindstorm

The agnostic crashin the party...wooooooo!

Are you like in some sort of polygamist sect or something? You basically said that God doesn't love you unless you procreate as much as possible which is a ridiculous. Do you realize the Earth is facing overpopulation? You and you wife (your husband depending on how you swing) should have (or adopt,depending on how you swing;)) the amount of kids you need to be a happy family.

You do realize that he quoted the TC right? He was trying to show why the TC's logic was totally and completely flawed.

The problem is nothing in Christianity is based off of logic...

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="CheezyFrog"]

*picture*

OH EM GEE, I am teh Xstian & teh G@y-sauce is going the currupt meh society & turn me into an anas-n00b :(

-Sob

xaos

The purpose of life isn't to spread God's word, rather to enjoy the life God has given us.

If our sole purpose in life was spreading the word, we'd be like robots(not the cool kind).

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="clash76-grunger"]

I was talking to my friend, and he is g@y, and I finally realized why its a sin. It was a bit of an epiphinay for me.

When God created man and woman, he made them capatible for sex, hence creating new children in his name. God told us, we need to spread the Word of Christ so that more people may join him in Heaven. He made man and woman to have sex so that more humans could be created so that we may teach them about the words, and they can spread the word. The more Christians, the more people going to heaven, hence having sex to create them so there are more.
I knever really thought about this untill thought why. We should still love and respect homosexuals, and they are human just like us (believe it or not =) ) But they are sinning in the fact that they are not making more children of Gods name.

In the end, Hooray For Sex!

Boo for g@ys :P

*discuss*

CheezyFrog

The agnostic crashin the party...wooooooo!

Are you like in some sort of polygamist sect or something? You basically said that God doesn't love you unless you procreate as much as possible which is a ridiculous. Do you realize the Earth is facing overpopulation? You and you wife (your husband depending on how you swing) should have (or adopt,depending on how you swing;)) the amount of kids you need to be a happy family.

You do realize that he quoted the TC right? He was trying to show why the TC's logic was totally and completely flawed.

The problem is nothing in Christianity is based off of logic...

The purpose of life isn't to spread God's word, rather to enjoy the life God has given us.

If our sole purpose in life was spreading the word, we'd be like robots(not the cool kind).

Shad0ki11