Why is everyone so certain of an Obama victory?

Who in the world told you to read all those Magazines? It's their opinion, other entities have other opinions too.

Why? Because the media wants people to think that their choice is pointless to vote for. This leads people to vote for who they think will win rather than who they actually want to win. The Republicans play this game with the libertarians. They say "you are wasting your vote by voting based on your morals, so why not vote for someone who actually has a chance of winning?"

hoola

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

Obama isn't a dumb-ass that puts his foot in his mouth, or inhibits the growth of the American people, no matter anyone's preconceived perceptions.

AfroPirate

I don't think we've been watching the same person.

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[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

Obama isn't a dumb-ass that puts his foot in his mouth, or inhibits the growth of the American people, no matter anyone's preconceived perceptions.

ConBro

I don't think we've been watching the same person.

• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDwwAaVmnf4#t=16s
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5GxV7vhPU#t=25s
• 47%
• Libya debacle
• Trying to make semantics an issue during the second Presidential debate

Romney makes Dubya look like a genius.

Redskins lost...... I would be scared if I was Obama.Mafiree

Well, Redskins lost in 2004 as well, and Bush held onto the Presidency. Funnily enough, this election looks more like 2004 than any other.

But I have an update for TC: most national polls show Obama head right now, like this Pew poll, which has Obama lead by 3 points and crossing the 50% mark. Pew had Romney up 4% after the debate and had him and Obama tied about a week ago. Other polls show the race tied.

Here are the polls that show Obama leading:

PPP +3
Reuters +1
RAND +3
PPP +3
Purple +1
Google +4
Newsmax + 2
HPU + 3
Yougov +1
CBS + 1
National Journal +5
ABC +1
Pew +1

Ties: Fox, Ras

I don't know if that's all of the polls but national polls are starting to come in line with the state polls.

Obama will win. There's no reason for his supporters to ever bother voting Tuesday.

[QUOTE="Mafiree"]Redskins lost...... I would be scared if I was Obama.GreySeal9

Well, Redskins lost in 2004 as well, and Bush held onto the Presidency. Funnily enough, this election looks more like 2004 than any other.

But I have an update for TC: most national polls show Obama head right now, like this Pew poll, which has Obama lead by 3 points and crossing the 50% mark. Pew had Romney up 4% after the debate and had him and Obama tied about a week ago. Other polls show the race tied.

Here are the polls that show Obama leading:

PPP +3
Reuters +1
RAND +3
PPP +3
Purple +1
Google +4
Newsmax + 2
HPU + 3
Yougov +1
CBS + 1
National Journal +5
ABC +1
Pew +1

Ties: Fox, Ras

I don't know if that's all of the polls but national polls are starting to come in line with the state polls.

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[QUOTE="Mafiree"]Redskins lost...... I would be scared if I was Obama.TheWalkingGhost

Well, Redskins lost in 2004 as well, and Bush held onto the Presidency. Funnily enough, this election looks more like 2004 than any other.

But I have an update for TC: most national polls show Obama head right now, like this Pew poll, which has Obama lead by 3 points and crossing the 50% mark. Pew had Romney up 4% after the debate and had him and Obama tied about a week ago. Other polls show the race tied.

Here are the polls that show Obama leading:

PPP +3
Reuters +1
RAND +3
PPP +3
Purple +1
Google +4
Newsmax + 2
HPU + 3
Yougov +1
CBS + 1
National Journal +5
ABC +1
Pew +1

Ties: Fox, Ras

I don't know if that's all of the polls but national polls are starting to come in line with the state polls.

I know. I was just playing along with it. :P

Most people who know how to interpret polls and polling aggregates think Obama is going to win because he's tied or has a narrow edge in most of the National Polls and has a edge in the most important swing state polls like Ohio. Those who do not think he is going to win are busy cherry picking outlier polls like Gallup and praying that they and they alone know what a likely voter is going to look like and the consensus of all the polling experts are wrong. You can spot these individuals by seeing them rant about Democratic oversampling and talking about how 2008 was an outlier and Democrats are not enthusiastic about voting. (Not referring to TC.)

While the TC's reasoning is possible, it's also something of wishful thinking. 538, Intrade, Pollster, Real Clear Politics, etc. By and large they all are in relative agreement that Obama is the favorite and Romney is the underdog. They disagree a little on HOW MUCH of a favorite Obama is, but there is a pretty clear consensus on their belief of who is winning this race.nocoolnamejim

I honestly hope Romney loses hard simply because of the fact of the lies and flip flopping he has done in his campaign that pretty much dwarf anything we have seen in a long time from either sides campaigns in the past.. Kerry got crucified for his voting record in the past that made him a "flip flopper".. Romney not only has that record but he has flip flopped in real time in the middle of his campaign.. And he was considered one of the most SANE and competent candidates in the Republican primary.. Could you imagine if some one like Santorum, Bachmann, Cain, Perry or Gingrich would have won the primary?

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]Most people who know how to interpret polls and polling aggregates think Obama is going to win because he's tied or has a narrow edge in most of the National Polls and has a edge in the most important swing state polls like Ohio. Those who do not think he is going to win are busy cherry picking outlier polls like Gallup and praying that they and they alone know what a likely voter is going to look like and the consensus of all the polling experts are wrong. You can spot these individuals by seeing them rant about Democratic oversampling and talking about how 2008 was an outlier and Democrats are not enthusiastic about voting. (Not referring to TC.)

While the TC's reasoning is possible, it's also something of wishful thinking. 538, Intrade, Pollster, Real Clear Politics, etc. By and large they all are in relative agreement that Obama is the favorite and Romney is the underdog. They disagree a little on HOW MUCH of a favorite Obama is, but there is a pretty clear consensus on their belief of who is winning this race.sSubZerOo

I honestly hope Romney loses hard simply because of the fact of the lies and flip flopping he has done in his campaign that pretty much dwarf anything we have seen in a long time from either sides campaigns in the past.. Kerry got crucified for his voting record in the past that made him a "flip flopper".. Romney not only has that record but he has flip flopped in real time in the middle of his campaign.. And he was considered one of the most SANE and competent candidates in the Republican primary.. Could you imagine if some one like Santorum, Bachmann, Cain, Perry or Gingrich would have won the primary?

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]Most people who know how to interpret polls and polling aggregates think Obama is going to win because he's tied or has a narrow edge in most of the National Polls and has a edge in the most important swing state polls like Ohio. Those who do not think he is going to win are busy cherry picking outlier polls like Gallup and praying that they and they alone know what a likely voter is going to look like and the consensus of all the polling experts are wrong. You can spot these individuals by seeing them rant about Democratic oversampling and talking about how 2008 was an outlier and Democrats are not enthusiastic about voting. (Not referring to TC.)

While the TC's reasoning is possible, it's also something of wishful thinking. 538, Intrade, Pollster, Real Clear Politics, etc. By and large they all are in relative agreement that Obama is the favorite and Romney is the underdog. They disagree a little on HOW MUCH of a favorite Obama is, but there is a pretty clear consensus on their belief of who is winning this race.TheWalkingGhost

I honestly hope Romney loses hard simply because of the fact of the lies and flip flopping he has done in his campaign that pretty much dwarf anything we have seen in a long time from either sides campaigns in the past.. Kerry got crucified for his voting record in the past that made him a "flip flopper".. Romney not only has that record but he has flip flopped in real time in the middle of his campaign.. And he was considered one of the most SANE and competent candidates in the Republican primary.. Could you imagine if some one like Santorum, Bachmann, Cain, Perry or Gingrich would have won the primary?

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I honestly hope Romney loses hard simply because of the fact of the lies and flip flopping he has done in his campaign that pretty much dwarf anything we have seen in a long time from either sides campaigns in the past.. Kerry got crucified for his voting record in the past that made him a "flip flopper".. Romney not only has that record but he has flip flopped in real time in the middle of his campaign.. And he was considered one of the most SANE and competent candidates in the Republican primary.. Could you imagine if some one like Santorum, Bachmann, Cain, Perry or Gingrich would have won the primary?

nocoolnamejim

I hope the Republicans are crushed not just in the presidential but in the mid terms.. Namely the Tea Partiers.. I would love to have a choice in voting that doesn't involve a democrat politician and a crazy tea party jackass.. Don't get me wrong there are some crazy democrats out there as well, but they aren't running the party like the Tea party is.

Romney won the primary because Obama would have crushed all the others you mentioned. Like it or not, Romney maybe the Republicans best chance outside of maybe Christie. TheWalkingGhost

I admittedly don't know too much about Chris Christie, but after familiarizing myself with his views the other day I get the feeling that he would have beaten Obama fairly convincingly.

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] Romney won the primary because Obama would have crushed all the others you mentioned. Like it or not, Romney maybe the Republicans best chance outside of maybe Christie. JML897

I admittedly don't know too much about Chris Christie, but after familiarizing myself with his views the other day I get the feeling that he would have beaten Obama fairly convincingly.

Obama isn't a dumb-ass that puts his foot in his mouth, or inhibits the growth of the American people, no matter anyone's preconceived perceptions.

InEMplease

Obama 7 lies in 2 minutes