I was realy hoping for some examples of them being biased not just people telling me there biased.Ugalde-There are some URLs posted you could check out but you should watch it yourself at the very least.
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[QUOTE="GTALoco"][QUOTE="Ugalde-"]I was realy hoping for some examples of them being biased not just people telling me there biased.Notsogr8one
Step one: Go to the nearest TV.
Step two: Turn on Fox News.
Step three: ?
Step four: Profit!
Or just watch the Daily Show/Colbert Report.
Eh, it's like that if you happen to turn on when one of the Republican talking heads (Hannity, Beck) are on. Watch O'Reilly (Granted he leans right a lot but it's pretty clear he's an independent) or even just most of their normal reporters and they usually try pretty hard to bust both sides balls. And that Stewart thing, did you see their whole episode on CNN the other day? Yeah, not exactly golden. Just watch everything with a grain of salt and you're good to go. Be informed ftwI never said Fox News was any more or less biased than CNN.
It's not fair and balanced but good reporting never is.Genetic_CodeActually, that is EXACTLY what good reporting is. That is why the US media has never had GOOD reporting. Thanks for trying.
Eh, it's like that if you happen to turn on when one of the Republican talking heads (Hannity, Beck) are on. Watch O'Reilly (Granted he leans right a lot but it's pretty clear he's an independent) or even just most of their normal reporters and they usually try pretty hard to bust both sides balls. And that Stewart thing, did you see their whole episode on CNN the other day? Yeah, not exactly golden. Just watch everything with a grain of salt and you're good to go. Be informed ftw[QUOTE="Notsogr8one"][QUOTE="GTALoco"]
Step one: Go to the nearest TV.
Step two: Turn on Fox News.
Step three: ?
Step four: Profit!
Or just watch the Daily Show/Colbert Report.
GTALoco
I never said Fox News was any more or less biased than CNN.
I know, since most people seem to think they're both completely liberal shows I thought it would be enlightening.[QUOTE="Rusteater"]
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Is BBC biased? Of course it is. I don't need to do a google search to find that out. The same is true for PBS, which at times sacrifices journalistic integrity for superficial neutrality.
Now, are they as bad as the likes of Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC?No.
Fox News, and to a lesser extent MSNBC and CNN, broadcast propaganda throughout most of the day. BBC and PBS are exponentially more informative than any of the three big U.S. cable news networks, who don't only have an agenda, and who don't only sacrifice journalistic integrity for superficial neutrality, but sacrifice it for ratings. They aren't really even news networks in the conventional sense - they are entertainment networks first and foremost, which offer only a very small amount of quality news programming.
-Sun_Tzu-
You could say there is more disinformation on PBS or the BBC. They do spew out more disinformation than the other 3. It doesn't change the fact that the quality is crap. I could give you a bag of feces or a truck load. It's all still crap. Worth the same in the end.
You could say that FOX, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN...etc. are brainwashing with a bit of fun.
The BBC and PBS take it seriously.
Okay, but that is nothing more than your opinion - an opinion that isn't really reflected by reality. By simply looking at various studies that have been conducted, you find that viewers of stations like PBS are much more informed on the issues than viewers of Fox News and networks like it. The Iraq War is a perfect example of this, where 80% of those who regularly watched Fox News had at least one significant misconception about the war, compared to only 23% of those who regularly watched PBS.Current.org seems to be nothing more than a cheerleader for NPR and PBS. I would expect nothing more than a slanted poll from them.
[QUOTE="GTALoco"][QUOTE="Notsogr8one"] Eh, it's like that if you happen to turn on when one of the Republican talking heads (Hannity, Beck) are on. Watch O'Reilly (Granted he leans right a lot but it's pretty clear he's an independent) or even just most of their normal reporters and they usually try pretty hard to bust both sides balls. And that Stewart thing, did you see their whole episode on CNN the other day? Yeah, not exactly golden. Just watch everything with a grain of salt and you're good to go. Be informed ftwNotsogr8one
I never said Fox News was any more or less biased than CNN.
I know, since most people seem to think they're both completely liberal shows I thought it would be enlightening.Ah, I see.
Okay, but that is nothing more than your opinion - an opinion that isn't really reflected by reality. By simply looking at various studies that have been conducted, you find that viewers of stations like PBS are much more informed on the issues than viewers of Fox News and networks like it. The Iraq War is a perfect example of this, where 80% of those who regularly watched Fox News had at least one significant misconception about the war, compared to only 23% of those who regularly watched PBS.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]
[QUOTE="Rusteater"]
You could say there is more disinformation on PBS or the BBC. They do spew out more disinformation than the other 3. It doesn't change the fact that the quality is crap. I could give you a bag of feces or a truck load. It's all still crap. Worth the same in the end.
You could say that FOX, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN...etc. are brainwashing with a bit of fun.
The BBC and PBS take it seriously.
Rusteater
Current.org seems to be nothing more than a cheerleader for NPR and PBS. I would expect nothing more than a slanted poll from them.
Well no, that's not what The Current is, and that's besides the point - they didn't conduct the study; they merely cited it.Okay, but that is nothing more than your opinion - an opinion that isn't really reflected by reality. By simply looking at various studies that have been conducted, you find that viewers of stations like PBS are much more informed on the issues than viewers of Fox News and networks like it. The Iraq War is a perfect example of this, where 80% of those who regularly watched Fox News had at least one significant misconception about the war, compared to only 23% of those who regularly watched PBS.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]
[QUOTE="Rusteater"]
You could say there is more disinformation on PBS or the BBC. They do spew out more disinformation than the other 3. It doesn't change the fact that the quality is crap. I could give you a bag of feces or a truck load. It's all still crap. Worth the same in the end.
You could say that FOX, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN...etc. are brainwashing with a bit of fun.
The BBC and PBS take it seriously.
Rusteater
Current.org seems to be nothing more than a cheerleader for NPR and PBS. I would expect nothing more than a slanted poll from them.
"due to a history of slanted polls, their polls are inaccurate and REALITY isn't slanted."
Don't say you're above the polls.
[QUOTE="GTALoco"][QUOTE="Notsogr8one"] Eh, it's like that if you happen to turn on when one of the Republican talking heads (Hannity, Beck) are on. Watch O'Reilly (Granted he leans right a lot but it's pretty clear he's an independent) or even just most of their normal reporters and they usually try pretty hard to bust both sides balls. And that Stewart thing, did you see their whole episode on CNN the other day? Yeah, not exactly golden. Just watch everything with a grain of salt and you're good to go. Be informed ftwNotsogr8one
I never said Fox News was any more or less biased than CNN.
I know, since most people seem to think they're both completely liberal shows I thought it would be enlightening.Did you watch the Daily Show about CNN, because you are completely misrepresenting it. He made fun of CNN for not covering important news to cover less important news like cute kittens and the like. He didn't blast them for being obviously biased, like Fox.
I don't know too much about fox news, but they have their fair share of lunatic shows, like that bill o'reilly guy. I live in the netherlands myself, so when he started bashing it for no apparant reason, I got amused. When he then commented on that video (I didn't make that by the way), he got even more weird.
Apparantly, fox news is fine with having a program (didn't it have something called "no spin zone?") not only twisting/ignoring facts, but really turning the whole situation around 180 degrees. I'm not saying any other american news channel is more unbiased, but let's just say that our european government funded news channels have way, way higher standards. Even the programs with news opinions. Basically, a guy like o'reilly would probably be publicly crucified if he pretended to be in any way credible.
[QUOTE="Rusteater"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Okay, but that is nothing more than your opinion - an opinion that isn't really reflected by reality. By simply looking at various studies that have been conducted, you find that viewers of stations like PBS are much more informed on the issues than viewers of Fox News and networks like it. The Iraq War is a perfect example of this, where 80% of those who regularly watched Fox News had at least one significant misconception about the war, compared to only 23% of those who regularly watched PBS.
-Sun_Tzu-
Current.org seems to be nothing more than a cheerleader for NPR and PBS. I would expect nothing more than a slanted poll from them.
Well no, that's not what The Current is, and that's besides the point - they didn't conduct the study; they merely cited it.Check the domain registrant of Current.org. It's registered to WHRO, which is a PBS affiliate in Virginia.
So they aren't a cheerleader for PBS, they are PBS.
http://www.directnic.com/whois/index.php?query=current.org
Fox news is good at what it does and panders to it's target audiance. All news channels do it some are more subtle than others..But Fox presents it in such an obvious twisted way it is almost disgusting.
Any news outlet (CNN, FOX, MSNBC, etc...) which outwardly endorses political candidates is considered biased and should be suspect when reporting "news". Most news media outlets today spend more time creating news to fit their agenda's then actually reporting unbiased news. I find the best US news reports today come from the BBC. As far as Fox goes I don't hear of too many people who take them seriously, nor is CNN or MSNBC taken too seriously by many either.I never really watch the news or anything so I dont know what is wrong with there news. I realised alot of people here disslike Fox news and was just wondering why.
Ugalde-
I know, since most people seem to think they're both completely liberal shows I thought it would be enlightening.[QUOTE="Notsogr8one"][QUOTE="GTALoco"]
I never said Fox News was any more or less biased than CNN.
Mousetaches
Did you watch the Daily Show about CNN, because you are completely misrepresenting it. He made fun of CNN for not covering important news to cover less important news like cute kittens and the like. He didn't blast them for being obviously biased, like Fox.
You must have missed the recent one where CNN was depicted as often stopping interviews and other debates when they weren't winning or things weren't going their way as well as ignoring completely made up figures while fact checking things that didn't matter in the first place (like the SNL skit), "We'll have to stop it there...". "25%-30%-70% of people agree that CNN has 3x better news", "They're goat*****ers, John. They seduce goats for the sole purpose of ****ing them." It was a good one lolFox is just as bad as all the other news channels; the only exception is that Fox is a fully conservative channel, while CNN is moderate to liberal and MSNBC is fully liberal. But because of Fox's ratings, it seems all the hate it gets from other channels is just sour grapes.
Never believe everything you hear on news channels.
Well no, that's not what The Current is, and that's besides the point - they didn't conduct the study; they merely cited it.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Rusteater"]
Current.org seems to be nothing more than a cheerleader for NPR and PBS. I would expect nothing more than a slanted poll from them.
I_am_george
Check the domain registrant of Current.org. It's registered to WHRO, which is a PBS affiliate in Virginia.
So they aren't a cheerleader for PBS, they are PBS.
http://www.directnic.com/whois/index.php?query=current.org
So? I'll say it again - they didn't conduct the study.This pretty much sums up this entire thread. No matter how ya slice Fox News is the WoW of news networks. Yea they are a little biased, but no more then CNN or MSNBC. Everyone can cry all they want about Fox News but all they do is bolster their ratings.Fox is just as bad as all the other news channels; the only exception is that Fox is a fully conservative channel, while CNN is moderate to liberal and MSNBC is fully liberal. But because of Fox's ratings, it seems all the hate it gets from other channels is just sour grapes.
Never believe everything you hear on news channels.
xerxes5678
[QUOTE="I_am_george"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Well no, that's not what The Current is, and that's besides the point - they didn't conduct the study; they merely cited it.-Sun_Tzu-
Check the domain registrant of Current.org. It's registered to WHRO, which is a PBS affiliate in Virginia.
So they aren't a cheerleader for PBS, they are PBS.
http://www.directnic.com/whois/index.php?query=current.org
So? I'll say it again - they didn't conduct the study.PIPA conducted the study. A liberal polling institution headed by Dr. Steven Kull, a globalist.
More disinformation.
So? I'll say it again - they didn't conduct the study.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="I_am_george"]
Check the domain registrant of Current.org. It's registered to WHRO, which is a PBS affiliate in Virginia.
So they aren't a cheerleader for PBS, they are PBS.
http://www.directnic.com/whois/index.php?query=current.org
Rusteater
PIPA conducted the study. A liberal polling institution headed by Dr. Steven Kull, a globalist.
More disinformation.
Uh, no. PIPA is a nonpartisan institution. Do you just dismiss everything that contradicts your world view as some "liberal disinformation" entity?[QUOTE="Rusteater"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] So? I'll say it again - they didn't conduct the study. -Sun_Tzu-
PIPA conducted the study. A liberal polling institution headed by Dr. Steven Kull, a globalist.
More disinformation.
Uh, no. PIPA is a nonpartisan institution. Do you just dismiss everything that contradicts your world view as some "liberal disinformation" entity? Clearly you're part of the liberal disinformation campaign![QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Rusteater"]Uh, no. PIPA is a nonpartisan institution. Do you just dismiss everything that contradicts your world view as some "liberal disinformation" entity? Clearly you're part of the liberal disinformation campaign! *gasp* And I never even realized it! I must be so good at disinforming that I disinformed myself! Who knows what else I disknow?PIPA conducted the study. A liberal polling institution headed by Dr. Steven Kull, a globalist.
More disinformation.
duxup
It's one thing to have a bias one way or another. It's another thing to straight out lie. Yes, every news station is biased in some way, most of them are a little biased. The bias can be showing some facts, and others not, or bringing more attention to one set of facts than another. The bias can also be distorting truth, making claims that are just scientifically not true, and claiming to have any consideration for the truth when that's clearly not the case. From what I've seen, Fox news channel is a very clear case of the latter. Then again, this is probably also true of channels like MNSBC or whatever it's called, and other "news channels".
Does Bill not understand percentages - "Its a much smaller country!"I don't know too much about fox news, but they have their fair share of lunatic shows, like that bill o'reilly guy. I live in the netherlands myself, so when he started bashing it for no apparant reason, I got amused. When he then commented on that video (I didn't make that by the way), he got even more weird.
Apparantly, fox news is fine with having a program (didn't it have something called "no spin zone?") not only twisting/ignoring facts, but really turning the whole situation around 180 degrees. I'm not saying any other american news channel is more unbiased, but let's just say that our european government funded news channels have way, way higher standards. Even the programs with news opinions. Basically, a guy like o'reilly would probably be publicly crucified if he pretended to be in any way credible.
11Marcel
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