Why is it Okay to Kill People At War

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#1 cee1gee
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Why is it okay to kill People at War but not in the streets for more legitimate reasons, such as hunger, money to survive etc

And why is it a Sin to murder people everywhere except if you were at war?

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#2 UCF_Knight
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Because the people that make the rules say it is. :P
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#3 bluezy
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Because if you don't, them nasty foreigners be all up in yo' biznazz.
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#4 Pirate700
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This question can't be real. :| In war you are fighting other people who signed up to fight. Murding someone on the streets isn't even close to the same thing.

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#5 dunl12496
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Looks for slightly amusing photobucket picture with some animal saying it's this thread again.

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#6 RPG-er
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cause that sounds like you're killing for greed. but if it's not for greed, have more people join the killing. well, look at that, that looks like a war now.
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#7 THE_DRUGGIE
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This question can't be real. :|

Pirate700

I think its actually a pretty good question...Why do we do that?

Its been one aspect of human behavior that I can never seem to figure out. :?

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#8 GrandJury
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This is one of the most ridiculous questions I've seen in the OT.
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#9 OreoMilkshake
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Because they're trying to kill you too.
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#10 Pirate700
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This is one of the most ridiculous questions I've seen in the OT.GrandJury
Glad I wasn't the only one stupefied by it. :lol:

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#11 TAMKFan
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The whole World is just hypocritical this way. Yes, killing people on the streets is not allowed and should not be allowed, but wars should not be allowed either and just be done away with.

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#12 GrandJury
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[QUOTE="GrandJury"]This is one of the most ridiculous questions I've seen in the OT.Pirate700

Glad I wasn't the only one stupefied by it. :lol:

I am just going to leave this thread and wait for the 5-10 pages of even more ridiculous responses.
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#13 GmasterRED
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This is not the caveman days here. Nobody is starving, there is no reason to kill somone for food.
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#14 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Majority of all wars are by the rich and powerful that give the excuse for the poor and weak to kill each other for their own gains... And rules and the like are tossed aside if it inconviences the elites.
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#15 deactivated-59d151f079814
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This is not the caveman days here. Nobody is starving, there is no reason to kill somone for food.GmasterRED

:| We have millions of people on the planet starving or suffering from malnutrition..

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#16 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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You're generally fighting to protect your beliefs...or something alone those lines...they threaten you..you eliminate them before they can harm those you love..

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#17 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="GrandJury"]This is one of the most ridiculous questions I've seen in the OT.GrandJury

Glad I wasn't the only one stupefied by it. :lol:

I am just going to leave this thread and wait for the 5-10 pages of even more ridiculous responses.

Probably a good idea.

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You're generally fighting to protect your beliefs...or something alone those lines...they threaten you..you eliminate them before they can harm those you love..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

Thats hardly how war has ever been waged historically.

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#19 OreoMilkshake
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Nobody is starving,GmasterRED
Not sure if serious.
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#20 buldog300
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Why is it okay to kill People at War but not in the streets for more legitimate reasons, such as hunger, money to survive etc

And why is it a Sin to murder people everywhere except if you were at war?

cee1gee
because war is bloody politics, and it's justified so that we can enforce the majority's/superior entity's ideals on how to manage society. Therefore it is a condoned method, and those that dies just casted their votes with blood. It's wrong to kill in the streets because then the streets would be unstable and society would have to adhere to a new code for fear of its own safety. As for murder, it's the unlawful killing of another, ans war isn't the only time killing is condoned. Bringing a person to justice and self defense are also generally accepted by most.
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#21 UCF_Knight
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Oh need serious answers.. War is an agreement between two parties that they'll fight till another offers defeat. They're basically agreeing to kill each other. When someone murders someone, the other person usually isn't asking for it. They're completely different.
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#22 T_P_O
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You can't really murder if you're a legitimate soldier.

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#23 coolbeans90
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Different circumstances...

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#24 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

You're generally fighting to protect your beliefs...or something alone those lines...they threaten you..you eliminate them before they can harm those you love..

sSubZerOo

Thats hardly how war has ever been waged historically.

Civil War - South Defending it's beliefs... Revolutionary War - Defending Beliefs..

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#25 GmasterRED
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[QUOTE="GmasterRED"]This is not the caveman days here. Nobody is starving, there is no reason to kill somone for food.sSubZerOo

:| We have millions of people on the planet starving or suffering from malnutrition..

I ment in America.
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#26 muffincakes87
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Because war is suppose to be fought for the greater good.

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#27 OreoMilkshake
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="GmasterRED"]This is not the caveman days here. Nobody is starving, there is no reason to kill somone for food.GmasterRED

:| We have millions of people on the planet starving or suffering from malnutrition..

I ment in America.

Not sure if serious.
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#28 GrandJury
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="GmasterRED"]This is not the caveman days here. Nobody is starving, there is no reason to kill somone for food.GmasterRED

:| We have millions of people on the planet starving or suffering from malnutrition..

I ment in America.

Yep...I was right.
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Because one is perceived as a collective necessity, the other might be an individual necessity, and in the end the collective needs go above individual needs.

I have no idea if that made any sense.

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#30 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

You're generally fighting to protect your beliefs...or something alone those lines...they threaten you..you eliminate them before they can harm those you love..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

Thats hardly how war has ever been waged historically.

Civil War - South Defending it's beliefs...

It was mainly the elites of the south who duped the non slave owners into a war predomnately about slavery.. It was hardly defending its beliefs, because they were the ones that made the secession from the US from unfounded fears..

Revolutionary War - Defending Beliefs..

They weren't defending their beliefs.. They were sick of tired of payng taxes and quartering troops from a country that hardly ever gave the services they were suppose to have in things like security and the like.

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#31 blues35301
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It's not ok. But people have gotten it into their heads over thousdands of years that it is. I mean it is certainly less bad than killing someone in the street who is helpless or any other type of "murder" but killing is killing imo. They're all bad.

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#32 LJS9502_basic
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War is different. It's an armed conflict which tends to mean kill or be killed. And it can ultimately save many lives. Also I don't find hunger nor money to be a legitimate reason to kill.
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#33 UCF_Knight
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

:| We have millions of people on the planet starving or suffering from malnutrition..

GmasterRED

I ment in America.

America has plenty of starving/homeless people..

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#34 T_P_O
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Because one is perceived as a collective necessity, the other might be an individual necessity, and in the end the collective needs go above individual needs.

I have no idea if that made any sense.

SgtKevali
It made perfect sense to me.
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#35 buldog300
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Either you kill for money or you kill pro bono, but even soldiers don't work for free.

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#36 Zerocrossings
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It isnt. People just get numb to it.

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#37 THE_DRUGGIE
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War is different. It's an armed conflict which tends to mean kill or be killed. And it can ultimately save many lives. Also I don't find hunger nor money to be a legitimate reason to kill.LJS9502_basic

It can be if you're in the right situation.

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It's not okay. I think there are rules of engagment and stuff. Say a soldier from the opposing side raises his hands in surrender, you cannot kill him in the rules of war.

But heh....usually wars happen and are conducted so the other side never does the bad thing they are doing again.

Killing someone because your hungry doesn't make sense.

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#39 buldog300
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]War is different. It's an armed conflict which tends to mean kill or be killed. And it can ultimately save many lives. Also I don't find hunger nor money to be a legitimate reason to kill.THE_DRUGGIE

It can be if you're in the right situation.

Indeed, such is the reason for many child soldiers in Africa. If you're family is starving then you won't be particular about where your bread comes from. Of course there's also the child soldiers manipulated into it, but that's a different matter.
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#40 Drakebunny
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Yep.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]War is different. It's an armed conflict which tends to mean kill or be killed. And it can ultimately save many lives. Also I don't find hunger nor money to be a legitimate reason to kill.THE_DRUGGIE

It can be if you're in the right situation.

What can? Killing for greed?
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#42 Joshywaa
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War - A part of our heritage

:P

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It's not okay. I think there are rules of engagment and stuff. Say a soldier from the opposing side raises his hands in surrender, you cannot kill him in the rules of war.

But heh....usually wars happen and are conducted so the other side never does the bad thing they are doing again.

Killing someone because your hungry doesn't make sense.

outworld222

It would if you were in one of the more unstable African nations.

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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]War is different. It's an armed conflict which tends to mean kill or be killed. And it can ultimately save many lives. Also I don't find hunger nor money to be a legitimate reason to kill.LJS9502_basic

It can be if you're in the right situation.

What can? Killing for greed?

A lot of wars are based on greed. It's just not individual greed.

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#45 GmasterRED
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Are you two serious? Put down the hype tv and learn to reality. There are NO starving people in America. Zero. Zit. Nada. People who are too poor have food stamps.

edit

The quote thing messed up, but I was talking to GrandJuryandOreoMilkshake

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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]War is different. It's an armed conflict which tends to mean kill or be killed. And it can ultimately save many lives. Also I don't find hunger nor money to be a legitimate reason to kill.LJS9502_basic

It can be if you're in the right situation.

What can? Killing for greed?

To be frank from a historical perspective, thats what all war is about.. For greed and power..

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#47 buldog300
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]War is different. It's an armed conflict which tends to mean kill or be killed. And it can ultimately save many lives. Also I don't find hunger nor money to be a legitimate reason to kill.LJS9502_basic

It can be if you're in the right situation.

What can? Killing for greed?

It's easy to say it's for greed when you have a computer, a warm bed and food every night. Not so much when life is stacked against you. Always remember that you can only truly understand someone's situation by experiencing it.

Besides, when you have no other useful skill to contribute to society, what are your other options, and are they really any safer?

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

It can be if you're in the right situation.

SgtKevali

What can? Killing for greed?

A lot of wars are based on greed. It's just not individual greed.

And do we consider those wars just?
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[QUOTE="outworld222"]

It's not okay. I think there are rules of engagment and stuff. Say a soldier from the opposing side raises his hands in surrender, you cannot kill him in the rules of war.

But heh....usually wars happen and are conducted so the other side never does the bad thing they are doing again.

Killing someone because your hungry doesn't make sense.

sSubZerOo

It would if you were in one of the more unstable African nations.

Let me ask you a question?? Who are you going to kill?? WHO???
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#50 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Thats hardly how war has ever been waged historically.

sSubZerOo

Civil War - South Defending it's beliefs...

It was mainly the elites of the south who duped the non slave owners into a war predomnately about slavery.. It was hardly defending its beliefs, because they were the ones that made the secession from the US from unfounded fears..

Revolutionary War - Defending Beliefs..

They weren't defending their beliefs.. They were sick of tired of payng taxes and quartering troops from a country that hardly ever gave the services they were suppose to have in things like security and the like.

They believed in being free from british rule and such......And the South was being taxed unfairly and they also believed that the north would change their way of life..