Why is prostitution illegal when abortion is legal?

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#1 majwill24
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I've never understood the arguments against prostitution. It's the individuals body and if two consenting adults get together and exchange money for a service, what is wrong with that?

I'm suspicious of the motivations as to why it should stay illegal and the reasons given by proponents. Right wing religious people working with leftist feminists?

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#2 789shadow
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It's not universally illegal. I live in Vegas. :P

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Cue 10+ pages of people insulting LJS

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#4 kussese
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Why would you bring abortion into this?

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#5 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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They should both be illegal..

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#6 SgtKevali
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I don't know. Some people like to impose their idea of morality on others, I suppose.

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#7 majwill24
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Sorry, i guess I havent been here long enough. I've never seen his topic before.

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#8 topgunmv
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There's no reason it shouldn't be legal everyone like it is in Nevada. That stuff is very regulated so that it's safe for all parties involved.

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#9 majwill24
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Why would you bring abortion into this?

kussese

I dont want this to be mainly about abortion, but I use it since its about the rights of a woman to do what she want with her body.

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#10 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="kussese"]

Why would you bring abortion into this?

majwill24

I dont want this to be mainly about abortion, but I use it since its about the rights of a woman to do what she want with her body.

There are male prostitutes too.

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#11 _BlueDuck_
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Prostitution is illegal in many places because it legtimizes a practice that often involves very dangerous work conditions for women, exploitation, abuse and rape. Though legalization would solve a lot of those problems, people still have trouble with accepting it as a legitimate profession when it puts workers in such positions.

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#12 poptart
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It is legal here in Melbourne, or at least brothels are in certain areas. I've just moved up the road from a pretty good one (apparently :P). I', not sure of the connection you're making between abortion and prostitution - not sure if one adds to weight to an argument for the other at all.

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#13 TheShadowLord07
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There's no reason it shouldn't be legal everyone like it is in Nevada. That stuff is very regulated so that it's safe for all parties involved.

topgunmv

why shouldn't it be legal(assuming your talking about brothels cause it is in nevada)? I'm asking btw because I really don't know. like the way gay marriage in not legal all states. or pot.

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#14 -DirtySanchez-
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because its generally a bad thing, pimps and lowlifes, and the sickos that usually pay for this stuff, its not a pretty thing at all, add on to all that the same reason pot is illegal, hard to tax
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#15 F1_2004
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Cue 10+ pages of people insulting LJSclyde46
It's an abortion-prostitution double-feature. At least 50 pages.
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#16 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

There's no reason it shouldn't be legal everyone like it is in Nevada. That stuff is very regulated so that it's safe for all parties involved.

TheShadowLord07

why shouldn't it be legal(assuming your talking about brothels cause it is in nevada)? I'm asking btw because I really don't know. like the way gay marriage in not legal all states. or pot.

I just said there's no reason it shouldn't be. Are you asking for more elaboration?

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#17 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

There's no reason it shouldn't be legal everyone like it is in Nevada. That stuff is very regulated so that it's safe for all parties involved.

topgunmv

why shouldn't it be legal(assuming your talking about brothels cause it is in nevada)? I'm asking btw because I really don't know. like the way gay marriage in not legal all states. or pot.

I just said there's no reason it shouldn't be.

oh you said you don't want it illegal. my mistake I took that the wrong way.

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Cue 10+ pages of people insulting LJS

clyde46

And we get one step closer to his 100k post party. :D (I wonder if vodka and The Cure are going to make an appearance?)

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#19 Deihjan
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Because slave trade and trafficking is illegal. I think if the woman/man chooses to become a prostitute, without a pimp, would be okay. As long as no one is forced into it, and there's no profit making going on, or stuff like that.
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#20 dunl12496
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Because abortion.... well some people don't consider it murder when it is. Plus dying of an STD is more painful than an abortion. But it's both wrong.

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#21 Deihjan
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Because abortion.... well some people don't consider it murder when it is. Plus dying of an STD is more painful than an abortion. But it's both wrong.

dunl12496
How do you know? Have you experienced either? :P
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#22 majwill24
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Prostitution is illegal in many places because it legtimizes a practice that often involves very dangerous work conditions for women, exploitation, abuse and rape. Though legalization would solve a lot of those problems, people still have trouble with accepting it as a legitimate profession when it puts workers in such positions.

_BlueDuck_

I still dont buy it. People accept not banning alcohol for the sake of choice, despite the fact so many people die from accidents caused by it. With more voices asking for legalisation of marijuana and social rights for gay marriage, why is prostitution being ignored?

In modern times, where the religious social conservative voices weakening its hold on morality, why havent such an old profession that generates billions of dollars not decriminalized and lifted from the dark and dangerous black market?

Perhaps if a major economic and population power like the US were to make it legal, the corner pimps would be driven off and in its place a bright young entrepreneur would transform the sex trade into a mass market service, ubiquitous as getting a haircut.

Imagine, choosing from dozens of providers, that promises quality and safety, all for a low price. Demand would be huge!

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#23 warownslife
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They should both be illegal..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

This man has the right idea.

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#24 VauxhalI
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Both are equally wrong and right at the same time always.

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#25 SgtKevali
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

They should both be illegal..

warownslife

This man has the right idea.

Why should prostitution be illegal?

Shouldn't people have the freedom to choose what they want to do with their own bodies in a consensual relationship?

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#26 warownslife
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Well prostitution isn't by itself bad, its what comes with it. Which has already been stated.

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#27 SgtKevali
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Well prostitution isn't by itself bad, its what comes with it. Which has already been stated.

warownslife

Specifically what?

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#28 warownslife
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[QUOTE="warownslife"]

Well prostitution isn't by itself bad, its what comes with it. Which has already been stated.

SgtKevali

Specifically what?

Abuse, rape, children, death if a guy doesn't have money and gets angry.

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#29 majwill24
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Well prostitution isn't by itself bad, its what comes with it. Which has already been stated.

warownslife

legalization will clean that up. Once the corporations get involved, it will be even better with scheduled services, wide array of body and skin types, bulk pricing for 5 on 1 gang bangs etc

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#30 SgtKevali
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="warownslife"]

Well prostitution isn't by itself bad, its what comes with it. Which has already been stated.

warownslife

Specifically what?

Abuse, rape, children, death if a guy doesn't have money and gets angry.

That doesn't have anything to do with prostitution, those can happen with normal sex w/o money as well. So that's not really much of a case

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[QUOTE="warownslife"]

Well prostitution isn't by itself bad, its what comes with it. Which has already been stated.

majwill24

legalization will clean that up. Once the corporations get involved, it will be even better with scheduled services, wide array of body and skin types, bulk pricing for 5 on 1 gang bangs etc

It's already legal in parts of Nevada, and all news articles about it point to something horrible.
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#32 poptart
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="warownslife"]

Well prostitution isn't by itself bad, its what comes with it. Which has already been stated.

warownslife

Specifically what?

Abuse, rape, children, death if a guy doesn't have money and gets angry.

Well isn't that the reason why it should be legalised and managed in a secure/clean environment?

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Who cares? We all have our opinions and arguments (well some of us have arguments), and no one is going to change another persons opinion. So twenty pages later no progress has really been made...
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#34 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="warownslife"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

They should both be illegal..

SgtKevali

This man has the right idea.

Why should prostitution be illegal?

Shouldn't people have the freedom to choose what they want to do with their own bodies in a consensual relationship?

Because it's turning something that should only occur between two people that love one another into something that is just something used for profit and nothing more...
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I'll be honest. I can't think of a negative reason. The only one i have is STD's but that isn't much. I just don't agree with it.

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#36 SgtKevali
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="warownslife"]This man has the right idea.

Xx_Hopeless_xX

Why should prostitution be illegal?

Shouldn't people have the freedom to choose what they want to do with their own bodies in a consensual relationship?

Because it's turning something that should only occur between two people that love one another into something that is just something used for profit and nothing more...

That's your opinion. Why would you impose your ideas about sex on other people?

Can't grown adults make choices for themselves on the morality of sex? Shouldn't they have the freedom to do so?

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#37 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="warownslife"]This man has the right idea.

Xx_Hopeless_xX

Why should prostitution be illegal?

Shouldn't people have the freedom to choose what they want to do with their own bodies in a consensual relationship?

Because it's turning something that should only occur between two people that love one another into something that is just something used for profit and nothing more...

Theres a solution to that, don't visit a prostitute if you feel that way.

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#38 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Why should prostitution be illegal?

Shouldn't people have the freedom to choose what they want to do with their own bodies in a consensual relationship?

SgtKevali

Because it's turning something that should only occur between two people that love one another into something that is just something used for profit and nothing more...

That's your opinion. Why would you impose your ideas about sex on other people?

Can't grown adults make choices for themselves on the morality of sex? Shouldn't they have the freedom to do so?

It would influence the populaces feeling towards sex as a whole...
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I'll be honest. I can't think of a negative reason. The only one i have is STD's but that isn't much. I just don't agree with it.

warownslife

I know you don't approve of it personally, but why should it be illegal for other people?

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#40 SeanDog123
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="warownslife"]This man has the right idea.

Xx_Hopeless_xX

Why should prostitution be illegal?

Shouldn't people have the freedom to choose what they want to do with their own bodies in a consensual relationship?

Because it's turning something that should only occur between two people that love one another into something that is just something used for profit and nothing more...

And why does that matter when talking about law?
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#41 majwill24
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[QUOTE="majwill24"]

[QUOTE="warownslife"]

Well prostitution isn't by itself bad, its what comes with it. Which has already been stated.

F1_2004

legalization will clean that up. Once the corporations get involved, it will be even better with scheduled services, wide array of body and skin types, bulk pricing for 5 on 1 gang bangs etc

It's already legal in parts of Nevada, and all news articles about it point to something horrible.

I think the limited market is what still keeps it from developing. The fact that its only conditionally legal in nevada also hurts it legitimacy in the eyes of the public, A major state moving forward for liberalization is whats needed to break the taboo, similar to gay marriage

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#42 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Why should prostitution be illegal?

Shouldn't people have the freedom to choose what they want to do with their own bodies in a consensual relationship?

SeanDog123

Because it's turning something that should only occur between two people that love one another into something that is just something used for profit and nothing more...

And why does that matter when talking about law?

i believe i stated that above..

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#43 warownslife
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[QUOTE="warownslife"]

I'll be honest. I can't think of a negative reason. The only one i have is STD's but that isn't much. I just don't agree with it.

SgtKevali

I know you don't approve of it personally, but why should it be illegal for other people?

I wish i had more reasons.:( You win the argument against me but their will be others.

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#44 SeanDog123
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] Because it's turning something that should only occur between two people that love one another into something that is just something used for profit and nothing more...Xx_Hopeless_xX

That's your opinion. Why would you impose your ideas about sex on other people?

Can't grown adults make choices for themselves on the morality of sex? Shouldn't they have the freedom to do so?

It would influence the populaces feeling towards sex as a whole...

Do you have any evidence for that statement?
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#45 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

That's your opinion. Why would you impose your ideas about sex on other people?

Can't grown adults make choices for themselves on the morality of sex? Shouldn't they have the freedom to do so?

SeanDog123

It would influence the populaces feeling towards sex as a whole...

Do you have any evidence for that statement?

Do you have any evidence it won't?..

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#46 majwill24
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="warownslife"]

I'll be honest. I can't think of a negative reason. The only one i have is STD's but that isn't much. I just don't agree with it.

warownslife

I know you don't approve of it personally, but why should it be illegal for other people?

I wish i had more reasons.:( You win the argument against me but their will be others.

Hahah. "You may have defeated me! but a 100 more are ready to take my place and fight!"

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#47 SeanDog123
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[QUOTE="SeanDog123"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] It would influence the populaces feeling towards sex as a whole...Xx_Hopeless_xX

Do you have any evidence for that statement?

Do you have any evidence it won't?..

The burden is on you bud, you made the claim. Prostitution already occurs and has occurred throughout history, I don't see how making it legal would change the populaces view of sex.
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#48 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"] Do you have any evidence for that statement?SeanDog123

Do you have any evidence it won't?..

The burden is on you bud, you made the claim. Prostitution already occurs and has occurred throughout history, I don't see how making it legal would change the populaces view of sex.

Well neither of us can definitively prove our stance..so it's a dead end..
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#49 SgtKevali
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] Because it's turning something that should only occur between two people that love one another into something that is just something used for profit and nothing more...Xx_Hopeless_xX

That's your opinion. Why would you impose your ideas about sex on other people?

Can't grown adults make choices for themselves on the morality of sex? Shouldn't they have the freedom to do so?

It would influence the populaces feeling towards sex as a whole...

Why?

Some people will think it's ok to do this, others will still think it isn't. People should have the freedom to "think" about sex in any fashion they like, shouldn't they?

I still don't understand why you don't think grown adults should be able to make decisions about their own sex life and how they perceive the idea of sex.

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[QUOTE="SeanDog123"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]Do you have any evidence it won't?..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

The burden is on you bud, you made the claim. Prostitution already occurs and has occurred throughout history, I don't see how making it legal would change the populaces view of sex.

Well neither of us can definitively prove our stance..so it's a dead end..

Not like the current view of sex is worth anything anyways.