It is terrible!
But I want to know what people from other countries think.
I know its bad, but i want to know why other people understand it doesn't work, and why it will never be good for a country as a greater par.
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It is terrible!
But I want to know what people from other countries think.
I know its bad, but i want to know why other people understand it doesn't work, and why it will never be good for a country as a greater par.
Was Lenin? No. But Stalin was.The people who rule with communism are corrupt.
Devouring_One
Think a little harder.
[QUOTE="lithuania_pride"]Where are you from?^ (;It is terrible!
But I want to know what people from other countries thin.
hair001
Does it really matter to you?
because the smurfs did it effectivelySerial-No_3404
But they're Smurfs. They're more efficient. Hell, their entire dictionary consists of one verb: smurf.
If you guys will excuse me for a moment, im going to go check on my other topic.
Ill be back in just a little bit, thank you.
Because you aren't awarded because of your contribution, you are given a certain amount and are forced to give a certain amount.
It's just totally opposite from human's natural instincts.
Because rich people don't get richer. Resulting in the poor having better living standards. What kind of selfless jerk would want that?imsomebody
Ask yourself, why don't rich people get richer....
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[QUOTE="imsomebody"]Because rich people don't get richer. Resulting in the poor having better living standards. What kind of selfless jerk would want that?imsomebody
Ask yourself, why don't rich people get richer....
Why don't rich people get richer?
Because all the money goes to the government, then gets spent on various things such as health care and military equipment. Very little of this money stays in anyones hands.
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[QUOTE="imsomebody"]Because rich people don't get richer. Resulting in the poor having better living standards. What kind of selfless jerk would want that?imsomebody
Ask yourself, why don't rich people get richer....
Why don't rich people get richer?
Because all the money goes to the government, then gets spent on various things such as health care and military equipment. Very little of this money stays in anyones hands.
no...It's because there are no rich people. Everyone earns around the same amount....Can't you see how unfair this is?
Not to mention how limited your personal freedom is.
Because people tend to look at Cuba/the USSR/Peoples' Republic of China and think that that is communism.MattUD1You can always tell if a person has no clue what he's talking about. Ever been to Cuba?
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[QUOTE="imsomebody"]Because rich people don't get richer. Resulting in the poor having better living standards. What kind of selfless jerk would want that?jointed
Ask yourself, why don't rich people get richer....
Why don't rich people get richer?
Because all the money goes to the government, then gets spent on various things such as health care and military equipment. Very little of this money stays in anyones hands.
no...It's because there are no rich people. Everyone earns around the same amount....Can't you see how unfair this is?
Not to mention how limited your personal freedom is.
To be honest I don't actually like communism. However think it is the lesser of god knows how many evil economic systems. I personnally believe that we should simply abolish money all together and let the government run the entire economy alone.
Socialism, communism, capitalism, facism......... All of those are bad things.kelinn
I could add at least 100 isms to that list.
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[QUOTE="imsomebody"]Because rich people don't get richer. Resulting in the poor having better living standards. What kind of selfless jerk would want that?imsomebody
Ask yourself, why don't rich people get richer....
Why don't rich people get richer?
Because all the money goes to the government, then gets spent on various things such as health care and military equipment. Very little of this money stays in anyones hands.
no...It's because there are no rich people. Everyone earns around the same amount....Can't you see how unfair this is?
Not to mention how limited your personal freedom is.
To be honest I don't actually like communism. However think it is the lesser of god knows how many evil economic systems. I personnally believe that we should simply abolish money all together and let the government run the entire economy alone.
lols, totalatarinism?[QUOTE="imsomebody"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="imsomebody"][QUOTE="imsomebody"]
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[QUOTE="imsomebody"]Because rich people don't get richer. Resulting in the poor having better living standards. What kind of selfless jerk would want that?Def_Jef88
Ask yourself, why don't rich people get richer....
Why don't rich people get richer?
Because all the money goes to the government, then gets spent on various things such as health care and military equipment. Very little of this money stays in anyones hands.
no...It's because there are no rich people. Everyone earns around the same amount....Can't you see how unfair this is?
Not to mention how limited your personal freedom is.
To be honest I don't actually like communism. However think it is the lesser of god knows how many evil economic systems. I personnally believe that we should simply abolish money all together and let the government run the entire economy alone.
lols, totalatarinism?The government doesn't have to work like that. I was simply refering to how the economy was run. The government could still be Democratic or any other system of government(that I know of).
Communism, is in itself, inherently flawed. Any economic system where a Janitor and Doctor are compensated equally does not deserve to ride under the "equal" banner. I'm a proud believer that people should be compensated proportionally to their contributions to society, hence I believe people of higher standards i.e. Doctor, engineers, and scientists should make more than say Janitors.
Socialism, is a more medium to captialism and communism. Some standardized programs like transportation and healthcare, while still retaining a relatively free market.
[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="imsomebody"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="imsomebody"][QUOTE="imsomebody"]
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[QUOTE="imsomebody"]Because rich people don't get richer. Resulting in the poor having better living standards. What kind of selfless jerk would want that?imsomebody
Ask yourself, why don't rich people get richer....
Why don't rich people get richer?
Because all the money goes to the government, then gets spent on various things such as health care and military equipment. Very little of this money stays in anyones hands.
no...It's because there are no rich people. Everyone earns around the same amount....Can't you see how unfair this is?
Not to mention how limited your personal freedom is.
To be honest I don't actually like communism. However think it is the lesser of god knows how many evil economic systems. I personnally believe that we should simply abolish money all together and let the government run the entire economy alone.
lols, totalatarinism?The government doesn't have to work like that. I was simply refering to how the economy was run. The government could still be Democratic or any other system of government(that I know of).
The last thing the government needs in MORE control. Ever heard of that country called the USSR? Didnt work too well for them...[QUOTE="kelinn"]Socialism, communism, capitalism, facism......... All of those are bad things.hair001and why is capitalism bad?
It almost always results in the exploitation of the working class...
and why is capitalism bad?[QUOTE="hair001"][QUOTE="kelinn"]Socialism, communism, capitalism, facism......... All of those are bad things.jointed
It almost always results in the exploitation of the working class...
there are always regulations set in place to try and avoid that.
[QUOTE="jointed"]and why is capitalism bad?[QUOTE="hair001"][QUOTE="kelinn"]Socialism, communism, capitalism, facism......... All of those are bad things.Donkey_Puncher
It almost always results in the exploitation of the working class...
there are always regulations set in place to try and avoid that.
Not in a pure capitalist society. You live in a Mixed Economy. Not Capitalism.[QUOTE="jointed"]and why is capitalism bad?[QUOTE="hair001"][QUOTE="kelinn"]Socialism, communism, capitalism, facism......... All of those are bad things.Donkey_Puncher
It almost always results in the exploitation of the working class...
there are always regulations set in place to try and avoid that.
Of course, that's why corporations move their factories to other countries and exploit their people instead....
[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"][QUOTE="jointed"]and why is capitalism bad?[QUOTE="hair001"][QUOTE="kelinn"]Socialism, communism, capitalism, facism......... All of those are bad things.Greedo_What
It almost always results in the exploitation of the working class...
there are always regulations set in place to try and avoid that.
Not in a pure capitalist society. You live in a Mixed Economy. Not Capitalism.I know that, but there is no real "Capitalistic" economy in the world. I was refering to practicality.
Of course, that's why corporations move their factories to other countries and exploit their people instead....
jointed
outsourcing isn't purly to other countries. You can outsource to local companies and rid yourself of a division within that company, it's common practice. The only time you hear about it is when it goes out of the country.
Secondly, I would love to see these examples of "exploitation". Would you mind showing me plenty of companies that do it now, and pays their workers far less than the average wage in their local country.
and why is capitalism bad?[QUOTE="hair001"][QUOTE="kelinn"]Socialism, communism, capitalism, facism......... All of those are bad things.jointed
It almost always results in the exploitation of the working class...
Well there's no direct explotation (i.e. force and lies) that is legal, but ill educated people could be exploited I suppose (e.g. if someone dosn't know how negotiate their wage) but thats more of an issue with eductation than capitalism. People need business skills as much as they need english skills.[QUOTE="jointed"]Of course, that's why corporations move their factories to other countries and exploit their people instead....
Donkey_Puncher
outsourcing isn't purly to other countries. You can outsource to local companies and rid yourself of a division within that company, it's common practice. The only time you hear about it is when it goes out of the country.
Secondly, I would love to see these examples of "exploitation". Would you mind showing meplentyof companiesthat do it now, and pays their workers far less than the average wage in their local country.
Google Images -> Sweatshop.[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"][QUOTE="jointed"]Of course, that's why corporations move their factories to other countries and exploit their people instead....
Greedo_What
outsourcing isn't purly to other countries. You can outsource to local companies and rid yourself of a division within that company, it's common practice. The only time you hear about it is when it goes out of the country.
Secondly, I would love to see these examples of "exploitation". Would you mind showing meplentyof companiesthat do it now, and pays their workers far less than the average wage in their local country.
Google Images -> Sweatshop.Sweatshops tend to pay close or above local wages in that area. Does that really count as explotation?
[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"][QUOTE="jointed"]Of course, that's why corporations move their factories to other countries and exploit their people instead....
Greedo_What
outsourcing isn't purly to other countries. You can outsource to local companies and rid yourself of a division within that company, it's common practice. The only time you hear about it is when it goes out of the country.
Secondly, I would love to see these examples of "exploitation". Would you mind showing meplentyof companiesthat do it now, and pays their workers far less than the average wage in their local country.
Google Images -> Sweatshop. They dont have to work there (though I'd rather my clothes were made by people treated better).[QUOTE="jointed"]Of course, that's why corporations move their factories to other countries and exploit their people instead....
Donkey_Puncher
outsourcing isn't purly to other countries. You can outsource to local companies and rid yourself of a division within that company, it's common practice. The only time you hear about it is when it goes out of the country.
Secondly, I would love to see these examples of "exploitation". Would you mind showing meplentyof companiesthat do it now, and pays their workers far less than the average wage in their local country.
Are you serious?....
http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/tncs//2004/1006childlabor.htm
You can look it up on google yourself..
It's 12:03 AM here in the UK....I'm out.
Are you serious?....
http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/tncs//2004/1006childlabor.htm
You can look it up on google yourself..
It's 12:03 AM here in the UK....I'm out.
jointed
I'm completely serious. I always here the same rhetoric. What you've shown is a travesty, but it has more to do with the country of origin exploiting THEIR own people by allowing children to work.
I'm trying to target adult specific "Explotation". You always here wage numbers thrown around like "wages as low as 10 dollars a week", with out putting it into perspective. You have to compare wage numbers between the countries. Obviously 10 dollars goes nowhere in a country like the US, however in many third world countries ten dollars a week is far more than local business' offer putting it higher than their average wage. Is that really exploitation then?
I'm only trying to look at it in a different perspective. Compare it to local wages and labor choices, not one's back home because it's not a fair analysis.
[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"][QUOTE="jointed"]Of course, that's why corporations move their factories to other countries and exploit their people instead....
jointed
outsourcing isn't purly to other countries. You can outsource to local companies and rid yourself of a division within that company, it's common practice. The only time you hear about it is when it goes out of the country.
Secondly, I would love to see these examples of "exploitation". Would you mind showing meplentyof companiesthat do it now, and pays their workers far less than the average wage in their local country.
Are you serious?....
http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/tncs//2004/1006childlabor.htm
You can look it up on google yourself..
It's 12:03 AM here in the UK....I'm out.
Eh? My clock says 23:19 :?
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