Why is there a U.K/European vs. U.S tension in the OT

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] this whole thread is embarrassing for both parties.Overlord93

What I find funny is how Americans group everyone in Europe together as though they're all the same. At least 'Europeans' can make judgements about Americans since its one country, Americans however can't make statements about 'Europeans' since there are countries within Europe that couldn't be more opposite. I still don't understand to this day why Americans do that, I feel embarrassed for them.

Asim90

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

What I find funny is how Americans group everyone in Europe together as though they're all the same. At least 'Europeans' can make judgements about Americans since its one country, Americans however can't make statements about 'Europeans' since there are countries within Europe that couldn't be more opposite. I still don't understand to this day why Americans do that, I feel embarrassed for them.

Verge_6

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Asim90"]

What I find funny is how Americans group everyone in Europe together as though they're all the same. At least 'Europeans' can make judgements about Americans since its one country, Americans however can't make statements about 'Europeans' since there are countries within Europe that couldn't be more opposite. I still don't understand to this day why Americans do that, I feel embarrassed for them.

Deihjan

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

What I find funny is how Americans group everyone in Europe together as though they're all the same. At least 'Europeans' can make judgements about Americans since its one country, Americans however can't make statements about 'Europeans' since there are countries within Europe that couldn't be more opposite. I still don't understand to this day why Americans do that, I feel embarrassed for them.

l4dak47

Thats not what I meant, obviously its wrong to generalise people. What I meant was, at least the US is a single country, so to comment on the US, is the same as commenting on any part in the US. Europe however is built of many different countries, each with vast differences. For example, commenting about England would be completely irrelevant to Spain or Portugal. Hope that makes more sense. I'm not condoning generalising people, I'm just saying that at least with the US it makes sense in some way, but is still wrong.

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Asim90"]

What I find funny is how Americans group everyone in Europe together as though they're all the same. At least 'Europeans' can make judgements about Americans since its one country, Americans however can't make statements about 'Europeans' since there are countries within Europe that couldn't be more opposite. I still don't understand to this day why Americans do that, I feel embarrassed for them.

Asim90

Thats not what I meant, obviously its wrong to generalise people. What I meant was, at least the US is a single country, so to comment on the US, is the same as commenting on any part in the US. Europe however is built of many different countries, each with vast differences. For example, commenting about England would be completely irrelevant to Spain or Portugal. Hope that makes more sense. I'm not condoning generalising people, I'm just saying that at least with the US it makes sense in some way, but is still wrong.

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] Lol....... Europeans shouldn't be making judgements about America as a whole, period. There's 300 million people in the U.S. I feel embarrassed when Europeans make broad, sweeping generalizations about the U.S. Verge_6

Thats not what I meant, obviously its wrong to generalise people. What I meant was, at least the US is a single country, so to comment on the US, is the same as commenting on any part in the US. Europe however is built of many different countries, each with vast differences. For example, commenting about England would be completely irrelevant to Spain or Portugal. Hope that makes more sense. I'm not condoning generalising people, I'm just saying that at least with the US it makes sense in some way, but is still wrong.

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Asim90"]

What I find funny is how Americans group everyone in Europe together as though they're all the same. At least 'Europeans' can make judgements about Americans since its one country, Americans however can't make statements about 'Europeans' since there are countries within Europe that couldn't be more opposite. I still don't understand to this day why Americans do that, I feel embarrassed for them.

Asim90

Thats not what I meant, obviously its wrong to generalise people. What I meant was, at least the US is a single country, so to comment on the US, is the same as commenting on any part in the US. Europe however is built of many different countries, each with vast differences. For example, commenting about England would be completely irrelevant to Spain or Portugal. Hope that makes more sense. I'm not condoning generalising people, I'm just saying that at least with the US it makes sense in some way, but is still wrong.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Asim90"]

Thats not what I meant, obviously its wrong to generalise people. What I meant was, at least the US is a single country, so to comment on the US, is the same as commenting on any part in the US. Europe however is built of many different countries, each with vast differences. For example, commenting about England would be completely irrelevant to Spain or Portugal. Hope that makes more sense. I'm not condoning generalising people, I'm just saying that at least with the US it makes sense in some way, but is still wrong.

mikegtfc

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Asim90"]

Thats not what I meant, obviously its wrong to generalise people. What I meant was, at least the US is a single country, so to comment on the US, is the same as commenting on any part in the US. Europe however is built of many different countries, each with vast differences. For example, commenting about England would be completely irrelevant to Spain or Portugal. Hope that makes more sense. I'm not condoning generalising people, I'm just saying that at least with the US it makes sense in some way, but is still wrong.

mikegtfc

[QUOTE="mikegtfc"][QUOTE="Verge_6"] But it doesn't make sense. At all. There's as much diversity, if not more, in America as there is Europe.Verge_6

[QUOTE="mikegtfc"][QUOTE="Verge_6"] But it doesn't make sense. At all. There's as much diversity, if not more, in America as there is Europe.SF_KiLLaMaN

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="mikegtfc"] Are you being serious at all?SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]

[QUOTE="mikegtfc"] Are you being serious at all?Deihjan

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Verge_6"] Can you be a bit more detailed, or constructive perhaps? Snarkiness doesn't exactly convey much. :)

Verge_6

[QUOTE="mikegtfc"][QUOTE="Verge_6"] But it doesn't make sense. At all. There's as much diversity, if not more, in America as there is Europe.SF_KiLLaMaN

If you truly believe that the US is more diverse than the European Continent, then I must laugh. Another aspect is that the US is governed by one government, so actions within the US can be summed up by talking solely about the US. Europe is built of around 50 separate countries, with 50 separate governments, cultures, languages, cuisines etc etc. To say that the US is more diverse than the entire European continent, is just ridiculous.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] I would say there's about the same variation in the US as there is in Britain. To extend that to the whole of Europe might be a bit much, that is, if we're talking about general themes.SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Asim90"]

Thats not what I meant, obviously its wrong to generalise people. What I meant was, at least the US is a single country, so to comment on the US, is the same as commenting on any part in the US. Europe however is built of many different countries, each with vast differences. For example, commenting about England would be completely irrelevant to Spain or Portugal. Hope that makes more sense. I'm not condoning generalising people, I'm just saying that at least with the US it makes sense in some way, but is still wrong.

mikegtfc

When you have a country that has blacks, whites, Asians, Hispanics, Inuit, Indians and people, from every where and any where, yes, the US is diverse.

[QUOTE="mikegtfc"][QUOTE="Verge_6"] But it doesn't make sense. At all. There's as much diversity, if not more, in America as there is Europe.SF_KiLLaMaN

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]

[QUOTE="mikegtfc"] Are you being serious at all?Asim90

If you truly believe that the US is more diverse than the European Continent, then I must laugh. Another aspect is that the US is governed by one government, so actions within the US can be summed up by talking solely about the US. Europe is built of around 50 separate countries, with 50 separate governments, cultures, languages, cuisines etc etc. To say that the US is more diverse than the entire European continent, is just ridiculous.

I will say one thing this thread has accomplished, it's making my British and Russian citizenships cringe.

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Yes, he is. And while it would be hard to tell for sure, the U.S. is made up if many different people. I would easily say that the U.S. is more diverse than Europe.

l4dak47

If you truly believe that the US is more diverse than the European Continent, then I must laugh. Another aspect is that the US is governed by one government, so actions within the US can be summed up by talking solely about the US. Europe is built of around 50 separate countries, with 50 separate governments, cultures, languages, cuisines etc etc. To say that the US is more diverse than the entire European continent, is just ridiculous.

:lol: Why are you becoming aggressive? I'm simply stating my opinion, if you can't do that in a civil manner then why even bother commenting?mikegtfcsummed it up pretty well, if you can't accept that, and really believe that the US is more diverse than the whole of Europe, then lets just agree to disagree.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]

[QUOTE="mikegtfc"] Are you being serious at all?mikegtfc

[QUOTE="mikegtfc"][QUOTE="Verge_6"] But it doesn't make sense. At all. There's as much diversity, if not more, in America as there is Europe.WhiteKnight77

When you have a country that has blacks, whites, Asians, Hispanics, Inuit, Indians and people, from every where and any where, yes, the US is diverse.

Mods, please just lock this thread. Both sides are essentially making asses of themselves, and it's getting flat out humiliating.

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="mikegtfc"] Are you being serious at all?Ravensmash

When you have a country that has blacks, whites, Asians, Hispanics, Inuit, Indians and people, from every where and any where, yes, the US is diverse.

Mods, please just lock this thread. Both sides are essentially making asses of themselves, and it's getting flat out humiliating.

Verge_6

[QUOTE="mikegtfc"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Yes, he is. And while it would be hard to tell for sure, the U.S. is made up if many different people. I would easily say that the U.S. is more diverse than Europe.

Verge_6

[QUOTE="mikegtfc"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Yes, he is. And while it would be hard to tell for sure, the U.S. is made up if many different people. I would easily say that the U.S. is more diverse than Europe.

Verge_6

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] Let me ask you this? Have you ever lived in the U.S. or even visited it? If the asnwer is no, then I would shut up and let people who actually have lived in both places pass judgement.l4dak47

:lol: Why are you becoming aggressive? I'm simply stating my opinion, if you can't do that in a civil manner then why even bother commenting?mikegtfcsummed it up pretty well, if you can't accept that, and really believe that the US is more diverse than the whole of Europe, then lets just agree to disagree.

I'm not just talking about ethnicity though, you completely ignored my point about governmental differences and differences in legislation. For example, somethings might be legal in one country in Europe, but illegal in another country. My main point is, its easier to group the US into one than it is Europe, there is simply no way that anyone can deny this.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

When you have a country that has blacks, whites, Asians, Hispanics, Inuit, Indians and people, from every where and any where, yes, the US is diverse.

Verge_6

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

When you have a country that has blacks, whites, Asians, Hispanics, Inuit, Indians and people, from every where and any where, yes, the US is diverse.

Verge_6

Yes, but not nearly as much as Europe. You could be dropped anywhere in the US and still find your way around/communicate and that's including people of various nationalities (likewise with many European countries). In fact, just the idea that a single country with a diverse make up is as diverse as an entire continent with dozens of countries, various national languages, countless forms of government and different religious beliefs is wrong imo. On a more related note, I love the US and I'm British. You give me McDonalds and some good TV shows/music :]Ravensmash

On a more related note, I love the US and I'm British. You give me McDonalds and some good TV shows/music :]Ravensmash

McDonaldsRavensmash

Not exactly one of our finer creations, man. :[

This whole diversity thing just proves my "America thinks they're better" argument.

Thanks, guys.

A single country, granted with loads of diversity, is more diverse than a whole continent comprised of diversity. :|

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

When you have a country that has blacks, whites, Asians, Hispanics, Inuit, Indians and people, from every where and any where, yes, the US is diverse.

Verge_6

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="mikegtfc"] That is simply not true in any way. Europe has so many different cultures that they are simply not interchangeable. England is not like France in anyway where as France is not like Spain in anyway. There's language barriers, different governments, different currencies, different beliefs that's just to name a few. The most similar country to Britain is the US and we have an ocean between us, whereas it's 35km between England and France and we're vastly different. Britain is in no way culturally European and that alone means you simply can not generalise Europe in any circumstance. Ace6301

Not exactly one of our finer creations, man. :[

coolbeans90

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Dude, Europe is easily more diverse than that. You only need to hop the channel to France to see differences, let alone going to Eastern Europe or Spain/Italy.mikegtfc