Why is there so much violence in the U.S.?

WTF is wrong with people!  Columbine. Virginia Tech.  Why do people go nuts here?  I live in Dallas, Texas...one of the most violent cities in the U.S.  What makes people so crazy in the U.S.?  Is it the hectic atmosphere or what?  Sure, there is violence in Iraq...because there is a WAR THERE!  What is the excuse for all the violent nutjobs on their last thread of sanity walking around in the U.S.?

Mankind is a violent beast.sonicare

arghhhhhhhhhhh

Weapon availability. That and freedom exploitation.SaugaGames

Once again, weapon availability is NOT the problem. The American mindset of hardcore individuality and martyrdom against the social "elite" is. You have to understand, most of these psychos think they are heroes of some kind. Rebelling against the ideals of society itself which they, in their sick minds, see as heroic. Thing is, many normal people feel this way too. How many songs these days glorify old murderers and gunman from the west? I've lost track of the number of songs that go on and on about how cool Billy the Kid was. Despite being a mass murderer and obvious psychopath.

 How many movies are made which glorify the adventures of the individual gunman? Again, it's the mindset, not the tool.

Becuase you let a country with a majority of redneck idiots own guns.Big_Bad_Sad

Sweeping generalizations ftw! 

Becuase you let a country with a majority of redneck idiots own guns.Big_Bad_Sad

I consider this funny since it was an asian male who went on a shooting spree at Virgina Tech.

The reason why there is so much violence in America is because of the culture. It glorifies violence every chance it gets. 

video games, definately video games.

Open your eyes people!  Jack Thompson is right!

video games, definately video games.

 

Open your eyes people!  Jack Thompson is right!

Eadara

omg, what am I saying

[QUOTE="SaugaGames"]Weapon availability. That and freedom exploitation.CaptHawkeye

Once again, weapon availability is NOT the problem. The American mindset of hardcore individuality and martyrdom against the social "elite" is. You have to understand, most of these psychos think they are heroes of some kind. Rebelling against the ideals of society itself which they, in their sick minds, see as heroic. Thing is, many normal people feel this way too. How many songs these days glorify old murderers and gunman from the west? I've lost track of the number of songs that go on and on about how cool Billy the Kid was. Despite being a mass murderer and obvious psychopath.

 How many movies are made which glorify the adventures of the individual gunman? Again, it's the mindset, not the tool.

Thank you for enlightening me, sir. I'm aware of this but it was a fault on my end to not make note that my point was a contributing factor, not a direct reason. Oh and I'm not being sarcastic in case it seemed that way.

Horrible parenting.LukeAF24

It's more than that. There are just sick people out there. I don't know why everything like this seems limited to America. Crazy stuff happens everywhere. Violence is glorified globally. It's not something that's just here is the US. I'm not saying that we don't have problems, because obviously we do, but they're not limited to America. These problems are global.

Captialism gone bad.Hexum-311

Exactly.  The nice thing about the communist ideologies like stalinism and maoism is that you eliminate the sources of violence by exterminating your population and thus preventing them from their own violent means.

I blaim violence in the media.yoshi-lnex

video games, definately video games.

 

Open your eyes people!  Jack Thompson is right!

Eadara

Gang viloence. Corruption of drugsMOM-D

Is that a joke or are you serious? 

[QUOTE="Hexum-311"]Captialism gone bad.sonicare

Exactly. The nice thing about the communist ideologies like stalinism and maoism is that you eliminate the sources of violence by exterminating your population and thus preventing them from their own violent means.

Well I'm referring more to the mindset that everything has a dollar value.  By harming your neighbor/brother/competitor you allow yourself to gain more dollars or spend fewer.  That simple fact has many complex repercussions.   

I think parts of Africa have us beat.

[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]Horrible parenting.stkr

It's more than that. There are just sick people out there. I don't know why everything like this seems limited to America. Crazy stuff happens everywhere. Violence is glorified globally. It's not something that's just here is the US. I'm not saying that we don't have problems, because obviously we do, but they're not limited to America. These problems are global.

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[QUOTE="Hexum-311"]Captialism gone bad.Hexum-311

Exactly. The nice thing about the communist ideologies like stalinism and maoism is that you eliminate the sources of violence by exterminating your population and thus preventing them from their own violent means.

Well I'm referring more to the mindset that everything has a dollar value. By harming your neighbor/brother/competitor you allow yourself to gain more dollars or spend fewer. That simple fact has many complex repercussions.

So the young man who shot up 32 students at Virgina Tech was money hungry right? Oh also, the Columbine shooters were also money hungry right?  

Horrible parenting.LukeAF24

[QUOTE="Hexum-311"]Captialism gone bad.sonicare

Exactly.  The nice thing about the communist ideologies like stalinism and maoism is that you eliminate the sources of violence by exterminating your population and thus preventing them from their own violent means.

Except when doing this you also have to take the liberty of exterminating those who are innocent but merely critcize their government.

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[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]Horrible parenting.yoshi-lnex

It's more than that. There are just sick people out there. I don't know why everything like this seems limited to America. Crazy stuff happens everywhere. Violence is glorified globally. It's not something that's just here is the US. I'm not saying that we don't have problems, because obviously we do, but they're not limited to America. These problems are global.

That makes no sense. You are saying that by watching violent movies, or by listening to death metal, or by playing GTA, we will be more inclined to go out and be more violent?  

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[QUOTE="Hexum-311"]Captialism gone bad.Eadara

Exactly.  The nice thing about the communist ideologies like stalinism and maoism is that you eliminate the sources of violence by exterminating your population and thus preventing them from their own violent means.

Except when doing this you also have to take the liberty of exterminating those who are innocent but merely critcize their government.

Yes.  Stalinism is great at exterminating everyone.  You need to wipe out at least 10000 innocent people to get at that one guilty person.  Purely justifiable under the stalinistic offshot of grand communism.

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[QUOTE="Hexum-311"]Captialism gone bad.Choga

Exactly. The nice thing about the communist ideologies like stalinism and maoism is that you eliminate the sources of violence by exterminating your population and thus preventing them from their own violent means.

Well I'm referring more to the mindset that everything has a dollar value. By harming your neighbor/brother/competitor you allow yourself to gain more dollars or spend fewer. That simple fact has many complex repercussions.

So the young man who shot up 32 students at Virgina Tech was money hungry right? Oh also, the Columbine shooters were also money hungry right?

No...

The concept of money causes dischord amongst humans. 

This is all because of the Movie 300.

I heard friends say the shooter was yelling "THIS IS SPARTA"

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I blaim violence in the media.nickmag

But violence is glorified.....most popular movies, games, and even music glorify violence.  What message do you really think that sends? 

I blame the media and the glorification of extreme violence and graphic detailStephenHu

[QUOTE="nickmag"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I blaim violence in the media.LJS9502_basic

But violence is glorified.....most popular movies, games, and even music glory violence. What message do you really think that sends?

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[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]Horrible parenting.Choga

It's more than that. There are just sick people out there. I don't know why everything like this seems limited to America. Crazy stuff happens everywhere. Violence is glorified globally. It's not something that's just here is the US. I'm not saying that we don't have problems, because obviously we do, but they're not limited to America. These problems are global.

That makes no sense. You are saying that by watching violent movies, or by listening to death metal, or by playing GTA, we will be more inclined to go out and be more violent?  

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[QUOTE="nickmag"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I blaim violence in the media.fat_rob

But violence is glorified.....most popular movies, games, and even music glory violence. What message do you really think that sends?

Not everyone is a well adjusted individual....

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[QUOTE="Hexum-311"]Captialism gone bad.sonicare

Exactly.  The nice thing about the communist ideologies like stalinism and maoism is that you eliminate the sources of violence by exterminating your population and thus preventing them from their own violent means.

Except when doing this you also have to take the liberty of exterminating those who are innocent but merely critcize their government.

Yes.  Stalinism is great at exterminating everyone.  You need to wipe out at least 10000 innocent people to get at that one guilty person.  Purely justifiable under the stalinistic offshot of grand communism.

Hey! Glorious Comrade Stalin doesn't like you saying that! Don't make me send you to the gulags!

There's violence everywhere...squidder_doa

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[QUOTE="nickmag"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I blaim violence in the media.LJS9502_basic

But violence is glorified.....most popular movies, games, and even music glorify violence.  What message do you really think that sends? 

I agree.  The press tends to sensationalize violence and cover it exclusively.

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[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]Horrible parenting.yoshi-lnex

It's more than that. There are just sick people out there. I don't know why everything like this seems limited to America. Crazy stuff happens everywhere. Violence is glorified globally. It's not something that's just here is the US. I'm not saying that we don't have problems, because obviously we do, but they're not limited to America. These problems are global.

Although I respect your opinion, I completely disagree with it. People love to talk about the flawed American society. No society is perfect and I can guarentee you similar incidents or equally disturbing incidents occur in many other places. People of every country are exposed to the harsh reality of guns and murder. It's not just here. There is no exception. People have access to violent media everywhere. A main portal is the computer, which is widely available in other countries, as well as the Internet.

Due to arguing over freedom of speech, and I heard somewhere that America glorifies violence?  Am I right?Flaming_Ape

Yeah in a respectible manner.