Why only remember the 9/11 victims?

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#51 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"] not my fault gamespot still uses this POS forum host...i click "quick quote", type my comment and it screws it up. how is that my fault? way to avoid the topic at handmingmao3046

i didn't avoid anything. i was pointing out that you dont know how the internet works.

again, it is not my fault that this reply malfunctions. care to address the topic? you apparently think just because we have a bigger military we can do whatever we want

address what topic? i already said that we have the bigger guns so we can do what we want. whether or not i agree with it is irrelevant. im not in charge
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#52 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"] not sure if serious or just stupid

One you messed up the quote system and attributed something I didn't say to me. And second....ad hominem attacks don't make the one attacked look bad.
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#53 mingmao3046
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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] i didn't avoid anything. i was pointing out that you dont know how the internet works.mems_1224

again, it is not my fault that this reply malfunctions. care to address the topic? you apparently think just because we have a bigger military we can do whatever we want

address what topic? i already said that we have the bigger guns so we can do what we want. whether or not i agree with it is irrelevant. im not in charge

just because we have bigger guns doesnt mean we can go invade whatever country we want...
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#54 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"] again, it is not my fault that this reply malfunctions. care to address the topic? you apparently think just because we have a bigger military we can do whatever we want

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address what topic? i already said that we have the bigger guns so we can do what we want. whether or not i agree with it is irrelevant. im not in charge

just because we have bigger guns doesnt mean we can go invade whatever country we want...

if that country is knowingly harboring the most wanted man in the world sure we can

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#55 mingmao3046
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"] not sure if serious or just stupid

One you messed up the quote system and attributed something I didn't say to me. And second....ad hominem attacks don't make the one attacked look bad.

1. I did not mess it up, i touched nothing other than "submit" 2. if you actually read my post you would see this comment of yours is what I was quoting you for "The US doesn't stop countries from defending themselves.....thus...it's not hypocritical.". so you think invading 3rd world countries, causing even more deaths is fair and just?
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#56 mingmao3046
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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] address what topic? i already said that we have the bigger guns so we can do what we want. whether or not i agree with it is irrelevant. im not in charge mems_1224

just because we have bigger guns doesnt mean we can go invade whatever country we want...

if that country is knowingly harboring the most wanted man in the world sure we can

was it really worth 10 years of warfare, and tens of thousands of innocent deaths to capture 1 man?
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#57 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"] not sure if serious or just stupid

One you messed up the quote system and attributed something I didn't say to me. And second....ad hominem attacks don't make the one attacked look bad.

1. I did not mess it up, i touched nothing other than "submit" 2. if you actually read my post you would see this comment of yours is what I was quoting you for "The US doesn't stop countries from defending themselves.....thus...it's not hypocritical.". so you think invading 3rd world countries, causing even more deaths is fair and just?

If said 3rd world country is harboring someone who orchestrated an attack on the US...yes. They've clearly aligned themselves with that individual.
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#58 topsemag55
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I really dont like the special pleading that the 9/11 victims get as if being a US citizen somehow makes it sadder to have died in a terrorist attack. This day should be remembered as a day which triggered events which would eventually result in the deaths of thousands of innocent people in US, afghan, pakistan and all around the world.Gambler_3
This is completely wrong - More than 90 countries lost citizens in the attacks on the World Trade Center, confirmed by the State Department. You mean to say you didn't know that foreign companies would have offices in the World Trade Center?:o Services to honor those who died in the attacks were held in countries across the globe - again because more than 90 countries lost citizens.
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#59 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"] just because we have bigger guns doesnt mean we can go invade whatever country we want...mingmao3046

if that country is knowingly harboring the most wanted man in the world sure we can

was it really worth 10 years of warfare, and tens of thousands of innocent deaths to capture 1 man?

actions cannot go unpunished
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#60 biggest_loser
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Didn't they tell you? America are the goodies!! Everyone else baddies!! The world stops for America!
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#61 limpbizkit818
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

And that would have been the fault of the Pakistan government since they could have turned him over.;)

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IF they even knew he was there. What, every time another country is seeking someone who is in America they have the right to send military forces in and wreck havoc to find them?

This isn't a perfect world buddy take a step out of your bubble and look at reality for a little bit. Your never going to understand unless you put on the uniform and go to war. Not to mention a lot of troops have died due to suicide bombers disguising themselves as civilians. I personally know a lot of guys that did a tour in Afghanistan and now suffer from some major trust issues with anyone not in a uniform including little kids.atony12
So because American soldiers get killed when they invade a foreign country that excuses the US government when they drop bombs on schools and attack civilians and cause massive civilian casualties?

YOU get out of YOUR bubble. America isn't the center of the universe. Your freedoms and liberties arenb't under attack. They are intangible. A bunch of morons crashed planes into buildings and killed 2000 people. The government retaliates by invading 2 countries and 100 thoundsand people end up dead because of it. And you wonder why people hate the US? I don't care if your buddies don't trust children, you seriously wonder why the rest of the world has issues with America?

First off, Pakistan knew he was there. Lets not beat around the bush on this. Imagine the most wanted man in the world was living right in the heart of your community. You're going to sit there a tell me that no one would know? It's not "IF they even knew"; they knew.

Drop bombs on schools and attack civilians? Please post some links proving that this is America's war policy in the middle east. The US does what it can to avoid civilian causalities. You're simply not being honest in and attempt to prove a point. Just because the US remembers the anniversary of the largest terrorist attack in it's history does not mean that civilian deaths in other countries are irrelevant. I am not even sure what your point is.

Foreign opinion should not drive US foreign policy. A BBC world service poll done this year showed 31% of those polled around the world had a negative view of America, a number which has been on the decline for the past couple of years. Your statement of "the rest of the world has issues with America" is simply hyperbolic fluff. O, and 2,996 people died from 9/11, not 2,000.

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#62 gamer-adam1
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Didn't they tell you? America are the goodies!! Everyone else baddies!! The world stops for America! biggest_loser

Its funny because that is basically what they teach you in America, because you know, America is the only free country in the world

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#63 limpbizkit818
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Didn't they tell you? America are the goodies!! Everyone else baddies!! The world stops for America! gamer-adam1

Its funny because that is basically what they teach you in America, because you know, America is the only free country in the world

Having been through the American public school system, I was never told once that "America is the only free country in the world".
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#64 gamer-adam1
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"] I really dont like the special pleading that the 9/11 victims get as if being a US citizen somehow makes it sadder to have died in a terrorist attack. This day should be remembered as a day which triggered events which would eventually result in the deaths of thousands of innocent people in US, afghan, pakistan and all around the world.topsemag55
This is completely wrong - More than 90 countries lost citizens in the attacks on the World Trade Center, confirmed by the State Department. You mean to say you didn't know that foreign companies would have offices in the World Trade Center?:o Services to honor those who died in the attacks were held in countries across the globe - again because more than 90 countries lost citizens.

I am sure that most people don't even know that, and I am sure if people watch Fox news than they DEFINITELY wont know it, but I watched alot of it, and they way the news talks about it, its hard to feel like people from other countries where lost, because no one really did mention that, probably more than once...but I was watching CNN, so thats probably why

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#65 topsemag55
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and I am sure if people watch Fox news than they DEFINITELY wont know it,gamer-adam1
ITT lots of conjecture that doesn't wash.:P How would you know this if you watched CNN?:o I did watch Fox, and they mentioned the loss of other nations.
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#66 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="topsemag55"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"] I really dont like the special pleading that the 9/11 victims get as if being a US citizen somehow makes it sadder to have died in a terrorist attack. This day should be remembered as a day which triggered events which would eventually result in the deaths of thousands of innocent people in US, afghan, pakistan and all around the world.gamer-adam1

This is completely wrong - More than 90 countries lost citizens in the attacks on the World Trade Center, confirmed by the State Department. You mean to say you didn't know that foreign companies would have offices in the World Trade Center?:o Services to honor those who died in the attacks were held in countries across the globe - again because more than 90 countries lost citizens.

I am sure that most people don't even know that, and I am sure if people watch Fox news than they DEFINITELY wont know it, but I watched alot of it, and they way the news talks about it, its hard to feel like people from other countries where lost, because no one really did mention that, probably more than once...but I was watching CNN, so thats probably why

Most do, indeed, know that.
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#67 unrealtron
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Because they deserve it, and it´s not like you´re losing anything.

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#68 RandoIph
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Basically the idea I seem to be getting over the years is that if you're American you should feel ashamed for everything and never do anything. Until some terrible thing happens in their country and they demand America come and save them. Then when America gets done saving them, they should be ashamed of that too.