Why should we follow petty morality? It is holding us back?

Morality seems to be a big thing, but it is holding us back. So many things scientist can't do becasue of stupid govemrntal laws about human rights.

Morality is all man made.

It is sad how it holds us back so much.

Morality and emotions and if they were removed we would be able to do so much.

No thanks, I like morals.

However, if you want to be a cancer/radiation/shampoo test subject feel free to sign up immediately.

Um, no. Morals are necessary to be a cooperative society. What is moral and what isn't can change from person to person, but some form of basic societal morality is needed. We can't have people going around killing everyone now can we?bededog

We can have laws for things like that.

No thanks, I like morals.

However, if you want to be a cancer/radiation/shampoo test subject feel free to sign up immediately.

metroidfood

Just is that if we tested on hiuman more we would lose a little but be able to save more.

[QUOTE="bededog"]Um, no. Morals are necessary to be a cooperative society. What is moral and what isn't can change from person to person, but some form of basic societal morality is needed. We can't have people going around killing everyone now can we?Omni-Wrath

We can have laws for things like that.

[QUOTE="bededog"]Um, no. Morals are necessary to be a cooperative society. What is moral and what isn't can change from person to person, but some form of basic societal morality is needed. We can't have people going around killing everyone now can we?Omni-Wrath

We can have laws for things like that.

Actually, basic morality is captured in some kind of common or natural law I think. It says you have the right to travel everywhere and do anything etc. as long as you don't kill or hurt others, or take away value from others. That's basic morality. And that's all inclusive.

All other laws, you can choose to follow them, because they're man made and through consent, but the laws above apply to everyone.

Also, I think it's foolish to try and put morality in laws. If the laws decide what's morally right, people don't think about it anymore, and don't take responsibility. Only if they have the choice to be immoral do they start to be aware of the choice to be moral.

Morality and emotions and if they were removed we would be able to do so much. Omni-Wrath

Morality seems to be a big thing, but it is holding us back. So many things scientist can't do becasue of stupid govemrntal laws about human rights.

Morality is all man made.

It is sad how it holds us back so much.

Morality and emotions and if they were removed we would be able to do so much.

Morality seems to be a big thing, but it is holding us back. So many things scientist can't do becasue of stupid govemrntal laws about human rights.

Morality is all man made.

It is sad how it holds us back so much.

Morality and emotions and if they were removed we would be able to do so much.

*watches Equilibrium again* No, I like emotions.McJugga

Are you kidding me!? I'd gladly sacrifice emotions for those sick gun-kata moves!:o

Foolish! Think: Nazi Germany though the same way, but on "racially unpure" folk. Skin made to cloth, bone marrow first to fertilizer then more successfully to tooth paste, killing, starvation, inhumane treatment. Ever heard of the Japanese Unit 231(I believe thats the proper number)? They would amputate legs and place them on other limbs just to see the effect. THey wouldput someone in a super cold environment to she how long they survived and when they developed gangrene. You are a fool for not understanding limits. Limitation prevents degregation. All of mankind is interdependent. THere is no superiority, there is no justification for slaughter, and, what more, morals are not "petty" but are the key to advancing with widsom and discretion. Think about what you said: would you sacrifice your humanity for advancement? Your friends and family? Everything? That is why "petty" morals are so important: they keep us from extremes.

Morality seems to be a big thing, but it is holding us back. So many things scientist can't do becasue of stupid govemrntal laws about human rights.

Morality is all man made.

It is sad how it holds us back so much.

Morality and emotions and if they were removed we would be able to do so much.

Omni-Wrath

Morality seems to be a big thing, but it is holding us back. So many things scientist can't do becasue of stupid govemrntal laws about human rights.

Morality is all man made.

It is sad how it holds us back so much.

Morality and emotions and if they were removed we would be able to do so much.

Omni-Wrath

If we take out morality and emotions were just like the animals you see all around you. We were created with a higher purpose than that brother.

According to Nietzsche, yes, traditional judeo-christian morality is an outdated and artificial construct that's holding back the development of mankind. I tend to think Nietzsche was a pretty bright guy.

However, he also didn't think that we should sweep all morality away; it just needs to be reevaluated. Getting rid of morality altogether would not only be a horrible idea, but I don't think it would be possible. We as humans are social by nature, morality is instinctive to ensure that we aren't torturing and killing everyone we come across, therefore providing a chance for us to reproduce.

A quote I like but dont agree with 100%

"Relgion and laws are for people born without a moral compass"

Basically suggesting that we are all born with a moral compass and if we just pay attention to it we are fine. its something to think about but to be honest I dont believe it.

SEANMCAD

I also disagree with it, especially since the quote only addresses half the equation. The compass needs a magnetic field in order to work, or it's just a piece of useless plastic.

For one, we need emotions, without them, life is going to be so boring and uninteresting. So will everything in the media such as movies and books and games, and especially music.

and I'm not a huge morality nut, but I do know that we should at least have morals as a base for society. If we didn't, anybody could kill anyone for anything and not get in any trouble. I'm pretty sure that would be pretty bad. Morals should be used as a way to keep balance andkeep everyone in order, so that everyone's life will be kore peaceful.

Morality seems to be a big thing, but it is holding us back. So many things scientist can't do becasue of stupid govemrntal laws about human rights.

Morality is all man made.

It is sad how it holds us back so much.

Morality and emotions and if they were removed we would be able to do so much.

Omni-Wrath

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

Morality seems to be a big thing, but it is holding us back. So many things scientist can't do becasue of stupid govemrntal laws about human rights.

Morality is all man made.

It is sad how it holds us back so much.

Morality and emotions and if they were removed we would be able to do so much.

Hungry_Jello

If we take out morality and emotions were just like the animals you see all around you. We were created with a higher purpose than that brother.

No, we were not created with any type of purpose, nor were we created in the sense of an ID creating us...

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

[QUOTE="bededog"]Um, no. Morals are necessary to be a cooperative society. What is moral and what isn't can change from person to person, but some form of basic societal morality is needed. We can't have people going around killing everyone now can we?BumFluff122

We can have laws for things like that.

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"][QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

We can have laws for things like that.

-xPANICx-

Well, some morals we certainly should have. Allowing people to kill eachother would be BAD, for obvious reasons. If we allowed stealing, well, then people would grab every single item in a store, which would screw over many other people.

[QUOTE="-xPANICx-"][QUOTE="BumFluff122"]if there were no morals then people wouldn't care if they broke the law or not.DJ-Lafleur

Well, some morals we certainly should have. Allowing people to kill eachother would be BAD, for obvious reasons. If we allowed stealing, well, then people would grab every single item in a store, which would screw over many other people.

i geuss it all depends on your moral values..lol. but anyway, there should be exceptions on certain laws to make them atleast reasonable

[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

No thanks, I like morals.

However, if you want to be a cancer/radiation/shampoo test subject feel free to sign up immediately.

Omni-Wrath

Just is that if we tested on hiuman more we would lose a little but be able to save more.

and how would we decide who we 'lose' to choose who we 'save' ??

Laws can't be enforced completely--morals are an enormous portion of what keeps people from doing anything that they can get away with. It wouldn't be terribly difficult for me to go out and break into somebody's house, grab a few things, and leave without any sort of consequences, but I don't, because I have morals. In addition, new laws are created in response to new moral issues that arise in modern culture as the result of technology, etc. Without morals, these issues wouldn't be addressed, and would cause us to fall into anarchy.

I agree with you that we could accomplish much more without moral limitations, but the price is far too steep.

I still don't understand why over-zealous and uninformed kids still make irreverent threads. When are they going to learn that the undergraduate e-mafia will treat them to a deluge of eloquent corrections?

See: Ayn Rand

Then, see: Criticisms on Ayn Rand

Notice something? That's every ethicist of the 20th century cocking a blender with Ayn Rand's theories.