Why the Chinese are wining the global war

Have you ever heard about The Golden Visa No it is not a credit card It is just an administrative permission that the Portuguese government give to citizens outside the E.U space that allow them to have the same rights in the European space (Shegen Space) of the national citizens.In order to get the visa you must do one of 3 things :invest 1 million euros in Portugal;create a business that give more than 10 jobs to the Portuguese economy or get an House or other real-state item for 500000 euros or more .So ,guess what ,this last criteria is the most used (by far) to get the magic visa.And (just wonder) Chinese citizens are by far those who get it using this criteria.We already sold the EDP the major company of distribution and the only company that produces electricity to The 3 Gorges company (a Chinese -State controlled company). The Chinese are bought everything that worth something in Portugal.Don't get me wrong i am not against capitalism or have any case against China but i feel that my country is being sold for the best price and that hurt me a lot

First, define this "global war". Second, is this all the evidence you have to present? Master_Live

I'm not sure what you're trying to argue...

[QUOTE="Master_Live"]First, define this "global war". Second, is this all the evidence you have to present? delol

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I'm not sure what you're trying to argue...

dagreenfish

The point is that China ,step by step, is conquering the wes[QUOTE="dagreenfish"]

I'm not sure what you're trying to argue...

delol

[QUOTE="delol"]

[QUOTE="Master_Live"]First, define this "global war". Second, is this all the evidence you have to present? Master_Live

[QUOTE="delol"]The point is that China ,step by step, is conquering the wes[QUOTE="dagreenfish"]

I'm not sure what you're trying to argue...

wis3boi

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="delol"] The point is that China is doing what Soviets could not do dominate the Westerndelol

China's growth is already slowing down.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="delol"] The point is that China is doing what Soviets could not do dominate the Westerndelol

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wis3boi

China's growth is already slowing down.

deeliman

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China's growth is already slowing down.

delol

good for them?

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[QUOTE="deeliman"]

China's growth is already slowing down.

lostrib

good for them?

 

you are right ,sorry but then again your argument is not so solid as well Anyway i like your sense of humour(or are you just angry at ne?) BTW sorry for the bad grammar 

delol

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[QUOTE="delol"] Please compare it whit the USA growth While Detroit declare bankruptcy Chinese industrial towns are growing like mushrooms in October

delol

good for them?

[QUOTE="delol"]

[QUOTE="Master_Live"]First, define this "global war". Second, is this all the evidence you have to present? Master_Live

China still has state intervention levels in its economy that makes Roosevelt's New Deal look like the peak of fiscal liberalism. It has had an undulatory economic system of shifting from heavy intervention to light intervention (where they're now) since 1960's 'Great Leap Forward' - to assume it'll follow the same developmental path as western Europe and the U.S. envolves way too much guesswork. China's always had a very strict policy of self-providing - being able to sustain itself agriculturally, technologically and with both light and heavy industry - only enhanced when the Soviets withdrew their technicians and scientists from Communist China in the 60's, and that ideology is completely unalignable with the notion of scrapping their first and secondary sectors in favor of an internal service-based economy.

China's economy depends on the world.....LJS9502_basic

You can say that about any economy.

China's economy depends on the world.....LJS9502_basic

The point is that China ,step by step, is conquering the wes[QUOTE="dagreenfish"]

I'm not sure what you're trying to argue...

delol

Um, China is not domnating nor conquering the West.

Not sure what the mention of the Soviets are supposed to add. Are you trying to say the China is a bigger threat to the West than the Soviet Union was becuase of current economic success? If so, that doesn't make much sense, because during that period, Russia had a competing economic ideology of a planned economy.  Until 1978, China had a similar economic policy in place.  But when Deng Xiaping took over, he began to transition China into a market economy and integrate it into the global liberal economic trade regime.

China's success has come from, more or less, buying into the global economic ideaology the the West has had in place since the end of WW2. By playing by the rules the West has set up, I don't see how they are conquering the WEst.  Grant it, currency manipulation does faciliate an advantage to an export oriented economy, but is not sustainable due to the effect on the domestic citizens. WIth a growing middle class, there will be more demand for policies that will allow the Yuan's value to float.

Also there are the previous examples of Japan, S. Korea, and Taiwan that had huge growth via manufacturing and high manual labor jobs, but have since shifted into tertiary industries and domestic populations demanded higher pay.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]China's economy depends on the world.....iHarlequin

You can say that about any economy.

[QUOTE="iHarlequin"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]China's economy depends on the world.....LJS9502_basic

You can say that about any economy.

[QUOTE="iHarlequin"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]China's economy depends on the world.....LJS9502_basic

You can say that about any economy.

[QUOTE="iHarlequin"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]China's economy depends on the world.....LJS9502_basic

You can say that about any economy.

[QUOTE="delol"]The point is that China ,step by step, is conquering the wes[QUOTE="dagreenfish"]

I'm not sure what you're trying to argue...

dagreenfish

Um, China is not domnating nor conquering the West.

Not sure what the mention of the Soviets are supposed to add. Are you trying to say the China is a bigger threat to the West than the Soviet Union was becuase of current economic success? If so, that doesn't make much sense, because during that period, Russia had a competing economic ideology of a planned economy.  Until 1978, China had a similar economic policy in place.  But when Deng Xiaping took over, he began to transition China into a market economy and integrate it into the global liberal economic trade regime.

China's success has come from, more or less, buying into the global economic ideaology the the West has had in place since the end of WW2. By playing by the rules the West has set up, I don't see how they are conquering the WEst.  Grant it, currency manipulation does faciliate an advantage to an export oriented economy, but is not sustainable due to the effect on the domestic citizens. WIth a growing middle class, there will be more demand for policies that will allow the Yuan's value to float.

Also there are the previous examples of Japan, S. Korea, and Taiwan that had huge growth via manufacturing and high manual labor jobs, but have since shifted into tertiary industries and domestic populations demanded higher pay.

[QUOTE="dagreenfish"]

[QUOTE="delol"] The point is that China is doing what Soviets could not do dominate the Westerndelol

Um, China is not domnating nor conquering the West.

Not sure what the mention of the Soviets are supposed to add. Are you trying to say the China is a bigger threat to the West than the Soviet Union was becuase of current economic success? If so, that doesn't make much sense, because during that period, Russia had a competing economic ideology of a planned economy.  Until 1978, China had a similar economic policy in place.  But when Deng Xiaping took over, he began to transition China into a market economy and integrate it into the global liberal economic trade regime.

China's success has come from, more or less, buying into the global economic ideaology the the West has had in place since the end of WW2. By playing by the rules the West has set up, I don't see how they are conquering the WEst.  Grant it, currency manipulation does faciliate an advantage to an export oriented economy, but is not sustainable due to the effect on the domestic citizens. WIth a growing middle class, there will be more demand for policies that will allow the Yuan's value to float.

Also there are the previous examples of Japan, S. Korea, and Taiwan that had huge growth via manufacturing and high manual labor jobs, but have since shifted into tertiary industries and domestic populations demanded higher pay.

You keep saying "war", this isn't mercantilism where it's a zero sum game.  Also, you must not be familiar with the Four Asian Tigers.

How is China's economic success a threat to the Western liberalized economic regime? They are clearly benefitting from the status quo, so they have no incentive to change it.

They will probably end up being the most powerful country on Earth by 2030, but your example doesn't really prove anything.

Heh, Portugal. Why would you even want to own that country in the first place?

the dragon sleeps...BossPerson

a weema weh a weema weh a weema weh a wemma weh......

China's economy depends on the world.....LJS9502_basic

There's not really a war so to speak, that's why China has progressed so much. They're good at building bridges (metaphorically). The challenge now is, how many more bridges can they build?

[QUOTE="Master_Live"][QUOTE="delol"] The war is now nor cold or hot is economical.Evidence do you want evidence ? compare the economical growth of China whit your country see how many jobs were ´´Outsourced`` in the past ,lets say 10 years,go to the back of the computer you are using this very moment or any electronic gadget that is near you and see where they are made and maybe you will give me a bit of reason

delol

i'll just post this and leave.

i'll just post this and leave.

comp_atkins

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LOXO7

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deeliman

[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

i'll just post this and leave.

deeliman