Why the hell do we celebrate Columbus Day?

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#51 DarkSmokeNinja
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Columbus Day is very pointless.
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#52 ChrispyChris
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To skip school. He is a pretty bad man though, but you usually don't learn about that until middle school or high school.
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#53 barcx17
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[QUOTE="Jacob1244"]Columbus is a joke, same with Thomas Jeffersonbungie93

Wow, what do they teach kids in schools these days? Let me guess, you think Martin Luther King Jr. was one of the ten most influential Americans.



Who are/were the ten most influential Americans in your opinion?

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#54 htekemerald
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How about amerigo vespucci day.
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#55 DeeJayInphinity
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To skip school. He is a pretty bad man though, but you usually don't learn about that until middle school or high school.ChrispyChris
I never learned any of this in high school. i learned it when people started posting links about it on here.
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#56 bungie93
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[QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="Jacob1244"]Columbus is a joke, same with Thomas Jeffersonbarcx17

Wow, what do they teach kids in schools these days? Let me guess, you think Martin Luther King Jr. was one of the ten most influential Americans.



Who are/were the ten most influential Americans in your opinion?

Ben Franklin

Alexander Hamilton

Thomas Jefferson

Abraham Lincoln

FDR

Thomas Edison

Albert Einstein

George Washington

John Adams

James Madison

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#57 htekemerald
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[QUOTE="barcx17"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="Jacob1244"]Columbus is a joke, same with Thomas Jeffersonbungie93

Wow, what do they teach kids in schools these days? Let me guess, you think Martin Luther King Jr. was one of the ten most influential Americans.



Who are/were the ten most influential Americans in your opinion?

Ben Franklin

Alexander Hamilton

Thomas Jefferson

Abraham Lincoln

FDR

Thomas Edison

Albert Einstein

George Washington

John Adams

James Madison

So where would you Rank MLK?
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#58 ChrispyChris
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[QUOTE="ChrispyChris"]To skip school. He is a pretty bad man though, but you usually don't learn about that until middle school or high school.DeeJayInphinity
I never learned any of this in high school. i learned it when people started posting links about it on here.

Well I guess schools are teaching different stuff now. Not saying you're old or anything :P.

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[QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="barcx17"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="Jacob1244"]Columbus is a joke, same with Thomas Jeffersonhtekemerald

Wow, what do they teach kids in schools these days? Let me guess, you think Martin Luther King Jr. was one of the ten most influential Americans.



Who are/were the ten most influential Americans in your opinion?

Ben Franklin

Alexander Hamilton

Thomas Jefferson

Abraham Lincoln

FDR

Thomas Edison

Albert Einstein

George Washington

John Adams

James Madison

So where would you Rank MLK?

Not sure, maybe around 50. His influence has really been exaggerated by the extremely liberal public schools in this country which desperately want to make women and minorities feel better by hyperbolizing their influence in American history.

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#60 blazinpuertoroc
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[QUOTE="ChrispyChris"]To skip school. He is a pretty bad man though, but you usually don't learn about that until middle school or high school.DeeJayInphinity
I never learned any of this in high school. i learned it when people started posting links about it on here.

college??
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#61 TristanShand
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We don't celebrate it here, first I heard of it in fact. If we did we'll probably celebrate it by dressing up in a gimp suite with a gas mask while a dominatrix holds onto her fetish dressed partner by means of a chain harness, as it crawls around all fours parading down the town while she cracks the gimp with a whip and singing the "Carry on Columbus" theme tune.

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#62 Neoyamaneko
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Who cares? I'm just glad I'm out of school because of it. :D_Brennan_

Yeah...thank God you have one less day of school because of Genocide. :roll:

You *do* know that you will have 180 days of school regardless.

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#63 ThePlothole
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Actually none of the schools I went to recognized that ridiculous holiday.

What's worse is that popular belief that Columbus was the one who first proposed the world was round.The fact is that's been known since at least Greek times!

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#64 bungie93
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Actually none of the schools I went to recognized that ridiculous holiday.

What's worse is that popular belief that Columbus was the one who first proposed the world was round.The fact is that's been known since at least Greek times!

ThePlothole

Umm...I don't think Colombus ever proposed the earth was round in fact, almost every educated man knew that the earth was round by the 1400s.

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#65 Neoyamaneko
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

Actually none of the schools I went to recognized that ridiculous holiday.

What's worse is that popular belief that Columbus was the one who first proposed the world was round.The fact is that's been known since at least Greek times!

bungie93

Umm...I don't think Colombus ever proposed the earth was round in fact, almost every educated man knew that the earth was round by the 1400s.

Educational beliefs in the 15th Century =/ Religious beliefs in the 15th Century. Hell, you can say the same thing about the 21st Century.

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#66 ThePlothole
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

Actually none of the schools I went to recognized that ridiculous holiday.

What's worse is that popular belief that Columbus was the one who first proposed the world was round.The fact is that's been known since at least Greek times!

bungie93

Umm...I don't think Colombus ever proposed the earth was round in fact, almost every educated man knew that the earth was round by the 1400s.

Well, education is something we pretty much take for granted today. It was a luxury back in those time.

That's not my point though. All I'm trying to say is that in modern times many people do believe this myth.

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#67 duxup
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[QUOTE="duxup"]

[QUOTE="blazinpuertoroc"]caused an epedemic killing millionsblazinpuertoroc

Dude did some bad things but I doubt he was fully aware of how disease works.

well yeah, but he was still the cause of it though

Like he could help it if he didn't know?

I'm willing to bet if we asked him and his crew if somehow we could magically rid them all of disease, they'd take us up on that offer ;)

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[QUOTE="barcx17"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="Jacob1244"]Columbus is a joke, same with Thomas Jeffersonbungie93

Wow, what do they teach kids in schools these days? Let me guess, you think Martin Luther King Jr. was one of the ten most influential Americans.



Who are/were the ten most influential Americans in your opinion?

Ben Franklin

Alexander Hamilton

Thomas Jefferson

Abraham Lincoln

FDR

Thomas Edison

Albert Einstein

George Washington

John Adams

James Madison

Albert Einstein was German.

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#69 alwayspureblood
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]I've never had Columbus Day off, so I've never celebrated it. I was actually kind of shocked when I first learned the truth about him. In kindergarten and first grade, I remember we used to draw and color his three boats during the fall.blazinpuertoroc
yeah we shouldnt be learning about him like hes some great guy, ive had columbus day off my whole life!

In elementary, I learned just the basics about him, only the positives. Then in about 10th grade history, thats when the negatives entered the curriculum. It's sad that some people don't learn about it at all during middle or high school.

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#70 esb1118
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[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]

[QUOTE="bungie93"]Because he was the first Westerner to discover America? TenP

That was Leif Ericson. Or maybe it was Eric the Red. I don't know, I always get those two mixed up.

Anyway, we should celebrate Leif Ericson day. Like in Spongebob.

It was Lief in the early 11th century, almost half a century before Columbus did too. It sickens me that my people aren't celebrated for being the true discoverers. :(

I think that was the message the Spongebob episode was trying to convey but in a light and funny manner.

Or maybe I'm just insane.

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#71 Ryan_Kitchen
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Seriously? Why the hell do we celebrate this jerk? Kids are all learning songs about him in elementary but yet hes a terrible vicious power hungry fool who started the trans america slave trade, sold native american women as sex slaves, tortured or murdered the children if they didnt bring him gold, and his crew flat out caused an epedemic killing millions. Not to mention he wasnt the one to actually discover america. Are there any actual native americans here? How do you feel that america celebrates a guy who butchered a great civilzation? Sure there is no school but is it worth it knowning we celebrate a guy like this?? Its like having Hitler day...well kinda.blazinpuertoroc
What? Christopher Columbus started the Slave Trade? He sold Native American Women as sex slaves? He tortured/murdered children who didn't bring him Gold? Christopher Columbus? The one who sailed the Ocean Blue in 1492? I'm thinking he didn't do any of that, I would like to know who/where you learned that from... Although you are right, he didn't discover the Americas first, The vikings were here first, but they didn't settle the Americas, they used the coast lines to rest while sailing. Native Americans came to America during the Ice Age via the bridge (can't think of the name) that connects Russia and Alaska. You are blaming Christopher Columbus and his crew for the epidemic of diseases that spread and destroyed the Natives? That is stupid, I'm sorry. You can't blame him, he didn't know that they weren't imune to things like Small Pox. Columbus didn't kill children, start the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade, sell Female Natives as Sex Slaves, and he wasn't power hungry either, he was a man from a meager house hold who spent years trying to find a way to finance his exploration for a faster way to India.
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#72 CongressManStan
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It's just a day that let's some individuals get the day off. Does anyone here actually celebrate Columbus Day?
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#73 Ryan_Kitchen
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It's just a day that let's some individuals get the day off. Does anyone here actually celebrate Columbus Day?CongressManStan
This, also a good point, I don't know anyone who actually recognizes it as a Holiday or anything haha
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#74 IZoMBiEI
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I havent seen any institution recognize columbus day in 10 years...

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#75 worlock77
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[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]

[QUOTE="bungie93"]Because he was the first Westerner to discover America? TenP

That was Leif Ericson. Or maybe it was Eric the Red. I don't know, I always get those two mixed up.

Anyway, we should celebrate Leif Ericson day. Like in Spongebob.

It was Lief in the early 11th century, almost half a century before Columbus did too. It sickens me that my people aren't celebrated for being the true discoverers. :(

More like half a millennium.

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[QUOTE="blazinpuertoroc"]Seriously? Why the hell do we celebrate this jerk? Kids are all learning songs about him in elementary but yet hes a terrible vicious power hungry fool who started the trans america slave trade, sold native american women as sex slaves, tortured or murdered the children if they didnt bring him gold, and his crew flat out caused an epedemic killing millions. Not to mention he wasnt the one to actually discover america. Are there any actual native americans here? How do you feel that america celebrates a guy who butchered a great civilzation? Sure there is no school but is it worth it knowning we celebrate a guy like this?? Its like having Hitler day...well kinda.Ryan_Kitchen
What? Christopher Columbus started the Slave Trade? He sold Native American Women as sex slaves? He tortured/murdered children who didn't bring him Gold? Christopher Columbus? The one who sailed the Ocean Blue in 1492? I'm thinking he didn't do any of that, I would like to know who/where you learned that from... Although you are right, he didn't discover the Americas first, The vikings were here first, but they didn't settle the Americas, they used the coast lines to rest while sailing. Native Americans came to America during the Ice Age via the bridge (can't think of the name) that connects Russia and Alaska. You are blaming Christopher Columbus and his crew for the epidemic of diseases that spread and destroyed the Natives? That is stupid, I'm sorry. You can't blame him, he didn't know that they weren't imune to things like Small Pox. Columbus didn't kill children, start the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade, sell Female Natives as Sex Slaves, and he wasn't power hungry either, he was a man from a meager house hold who spent years trying to find a way to finance his exploration for a faster way to India.

Wake the **** up

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-kasum/columbus-day-a-bad-idea_b_742708.html#

And smell the genocide.

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#77 MagnumPI
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Seriously? Why the hell do we celebrate this jerk? Kids are all learning songs about him in elementary but yet hes a terrible vicious power hungry fool who started the trans america slave trade, sold native american women as sex slaves, tortured or murdered the children if they didnt bring him gold, and his crew flat out caused an epedemic killing millions. Not to mention he wasnt the one to actually discover america. Are there any actual native americans here? How do you feel that america celebrates a guy who butchered a great civilzation? Sure there is no school but is it worth it knowning we celebrate a guy like this?? Its like having Hitler day...well kinda.blazinpuertoroc

That's because the public schools teach government and history the way the citizens to know it. Besides how do you encourage people to live a life of right & wrong if you tell them they have what they have because the people who came before them took what they wanted and killed whoever had to, to get it.

Discovered America? We all discover things but that doesn't mean we were the first to discover it. Columbus was the first to take credit for discovering America. That we know of.

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#78 AutoPilotOn
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we dont celebrate it just gov workers.
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[QUOTE="Jacob1244"]Columbus is a joke, same with Thomas JeffersonNYiVtec

umm what??

he only wrote a paper and led a small country. nothing important xD

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#80 TSNAKE617
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He found the Americas for Europe, that's kind of inportant in the U.S.

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I have never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever seen anyone actually celebrate Columbus day.

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#82 TSNAKE617
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[QUOTE="TenP"][QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]

That was Leif Ericson. Or maybe it was Eric the Red. I don't know, I always get those two mixed up.

Anyway, we should celebrate Leif Ericson day. Like in Spongebob.

worlock77

It was Lief in the early 11th century, almost half a century before Columbus did too. It sickens me that my people aren't celebrated for being the true discoverers. :(

More like half a millennium.


He didn't lead to a successful colonization, though. He was driven away by Native Americans.

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#83 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="TenP"]

It was Lief in the early 11th century, almost half a century before Columbus did too. It sickens me that my people aren't celebrated for being the true discoverers. :(

TSNAKE617

More like half a millennium.


He didn't lead to a successful colonization, though. He was driven away by Native Americans.

Irrelevant to the point.

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#84 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Just an excuse to give people a day off.

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#85 Mr_Alexander
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I just realized this topic is from 2008.
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#86 scorch-62
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I just realized this topic is from 2008.Mr_Alexander
I feel incredibly dense for noticing the "Oct 10" but not the "2008."
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#87 Dark_Knight6
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It's weird seeing how much my view has changed in two years.

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#88 Maniacc1
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I dunno. Guy was a prick :P

EDIT: 2008? :shock:

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[QUOTE="Jacob1244"]Columbus is a joke, same with Thomas Jeffersonbungie93

Wow, what do they teach kids in schools these days? Let me guess, you think Martin Luther King Jr. was one of the ten most influential Americans.

Someone needs a smack...
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#90 Xeros606
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ITT: TC didn't have a 3 day weekend.
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#91 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Who actually "celebrates" Columbus Day..
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#92 cain006
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[QUOTE="barcx17"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

Wow, what do they teach kids in schools these days? Let me guess, you think Martin Luther King Jr. was one of the ten most influential Americans.

bungie93



Who are/were the ten most influential Americans in your opinion?

Ben Franklin

Alexander Hamilton

Thomas Jefferson

Abraham Lincoln

FDR

Thomas Edison

Albert Einstein

George Washington

John Adams

James Madison

What? Albert Einstein's not even an American...

Edit: Man, this is from 2008. Didn't even notice until after I posted.

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#93 rcafan
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truth to be told i doubt we will ever know who found american for a bit. though i heread they doing some more digging in south america.
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#94 Mr_Cumberdale
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Can't say I remember actually celebrating Columbus day. Wish I had a day off for it though. :P
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truth to be told i doubt we will ever know who found american for a bit. though i heread they doing some more digging in south america.rcafan

Columbus wasn't even the first European to the new continent.. The Vikings were.

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[QUOTE="barcx17"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

Wow, what do they teach kids in schools these days? Let me guess, you think Martin Luther King Jr. was one of the ten most influential Americans.

bungie93



Who are/were the ten most influential Americans in your opinion?

Ben Franklin

Alexander Hamilton

Thomas Jefferson

Abraham Lincoln

FDR

Thomas Edison

Albert Einstein

George Washington

John Adams

James Madison

The lack of TR is disapointing and invalidates the list.

Also, wow for 2008 topic bump.

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#97 rockguy92
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Bungie93... :lol:

Oh man, he was fun to read during the election.

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#98 worlock77
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[QUOTE="rcafan"]truth to be told i doubt we will ever know who found american for a bit. though i heread they doing some more digging in south america.sSubZerOo

Columbus wasn't even the first European to the new continent.. The Vikings were.

And for that matter Columbus never set foot on the continent.

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#99 lizzie1238
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I think Columbus day is celebrated because it's Canadian thanksgiving and Americans don't want to feel left out.
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#100 gaming25
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

Ben Franklin

Alexander Hamilton

Thomas Jefferson

Abraham Lincoln

FDR

Thomas Edison

Albert Einstein

George Washington

John Adams

James Madison

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So where would you Rank MLK?

Not sure, maybe around 50. His influence has really been exaggerated by the extremely liberal public schools in this country which desperately want to make women and minorities feel better by hyperbolizing their influence in American history.

Martin Luther King Jr was the main person who brought civil rights in America. Nothing had to be "exaggerated" as you grossly put it. You claim that it was done to "make women and minorities feel better by hyperbolizing thier influence in American hisory" is baseless and shows your lack of knowledge of the influence that they have had in America.