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#1 chandlerr_360
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Alright, whether you support WikiLeaks as an organization or not, WikiLeaks.org has officially been under DDOS cyber attack for the past 4 days. Somehow, through donations of supporters, the WikiLeaks site was able to overcome a 10 gigabit a second attack.

Today the site is unaccessible in the U.S. What does that tell you? Hopefully you find this as disturbing as I do...don't take my word for it though, try visiting the site yourself. www.wikileaks.org

Here is the WikiLeaks officialy Twitter community pagehttp://twitter.com/wikileaks

EDIT:

Wikileaks.org is back up and running!

As this report details http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101201/wr_nm/us_wikileaks_amazonthe U.S. wikileak servers were being secretly hosted by proponent of Wikileaks, Amazon.com. After being demanded by the government to shut the service down, they did. Wikileaks is now hosting their U.S. service through European servers. If you support Wikileaks, please donate as this is costing them much more

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#2 LaytonsCat
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Good its just causeing pointless problems

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#3 jimmyjammer69
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Meh, there are still plenty of mirrors.
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#4 Pirate700
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Good its just causeing pointless problems

LaytonsCat

This. Nothing good comes from the site.

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#5 Witchsight
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Well, ive never been able to get the site to load. I just have to take peoples word for it!
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#6 spazzx625
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If they are under a DDoS attack...How do you know this is isolated to the US? http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/wikileaks.org
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#8 testfactor888
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I am against this 100% and consider it government censorship if it is the government preventing people in the US from going to the site. I hope Wikileaks continues to release all the documents they have. Till I know for a fact though that it was the government that did this and not something else (such as just a random hacker) I will reserve my judgment. No matter what anyone does though it won't stop Wikileaks because even if the people in the US can't get to the actual site the information they post will be put on many other sites that will remain accessible

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#9 topsemag55
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Since Interpol has issued an arrest warrant for Assange, I'm hoping the U.S. will charge him under the Espionage Act.

Omg, if they could hang a treason charge upon him, then he could get to meet "Gumby".:P:lol:

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#10 weezyfb
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censorship at its best
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#11 SPBoss
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This is resctricting freedom of speech, its also unavailable in the uk, I hate these elitist b*****
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#13 Brainkiller05
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pretty pathetic whoever are DDOS it as if it's not obvious who it is.
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#14 TheColbert
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I don't see why America doesn't just take this down and get rid of any traitors. Treason should be death.
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#15 chandlerr_360
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DDOS attack now exceeding 10 Gigabits a second. 9:06 AM Nov 30th via web .

We are currently under another DDOS attack. 7:04 AM Nov 30th via web

That is from the official Wikileaks Twitter page.

However, DDOS attacks do not stop people from accessing the site, it only stops information from loading, for example it would still show that the address had been found it just would not ever finish loading. Now Wikileaks.org is completely unaccessible and the adress cannot even be located.

It is blacklisted, and people that I personally know from Sweden can still access the site.

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I am against this 100% and consider it government censorship if it is the government preventing people in the US from going to the site. I hope Wikileaks continues to release all the documents they have. Till I know for a fact though that it was the government that did this and not something else (such as just a random hacker) I will reserve my judgment. No matter what anyone does though it won't stop Wikileaks because even if the people in the US can't get to the actual site the information they post will be put on many other sites that will remain accessible

testfactor888

People are going to die from these leaks though. Informants names and addresses have been leaked. Many of those people live in not so nice countries and are easy targets. It will also make informants not want to share info as easily. Making new attacks hard to stop

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#17 Ace6301
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In the laaaaand of the freeeeee
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#18 Superbored
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I don't see why America doesn't just take this down and get rid of any traitors. Treason should be death. TheColbert

:| Not sure if serious.

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#19 Fuhgeddabouditt
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you can get all "preachy" on me but seriously, this site is causing nothing but problems.
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#20 Velocitas8
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Wrong.

Works fine for me. It's just being DDOS'd periodically.

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#21 Ingenemployee
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I was able to get on the website but I couldnt access the cable gate documents or the war logs.

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#22 testfactor888
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[QUOTE="testfactor888"]

I am against this 100% and consider it government censorship if it is the government preventing people in the US from going to the site. I hope Wikileaks continues to release all the documents they have. Till I know for a fact though that it was the government that did this and not something else (such as just a random hacker) I will reserve my judgment. No matter what anyone does though it won't stop Wikileaks because even if the people in the US can't get to the actual site the information they post will be put on many other sites that will remain accessible

LaytonsCat

People are going to die from these leaks though. Informants names and addresses have been leaked. Many of those people live in not so nice countries and are easy targets. It will also make informants not want to share info as easily. Making new attacks hard to stop

I am for freedom of speech no matter the cost.
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#23 Colin1192
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Wikileaks still up and running here in Canada

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#24 MathMattS
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Now all the government has to do is send one of their boys from the CIA to put a bullet in Julian Assange and make it look like an accident.

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#25 Fuhgeddabouditt
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The "hacker" in question calls himself "The Jester" though he spells his name in "1337 5p3ak" or for those of you who don't speak nerd " Leet Speak" which stands for elite speak. Basically it is an intermingling of numbers that look like letter intermingled with actual letters to spell out words. :lol:

So this so called "hacker" who goes by the name of "th3j35t3r" (The Jester) is taking responsibility for the Wikileaks attacks as well as several other targets which he/she claims are Al Qaeda websites.

Th3j35t3r said onTwitterthat "www.wikileaks.org--TANGO DOWN--for attempting to endanger the lives of our troops, 'other assets' & foreign relations,"

However I think that this th3j35t3r person is simply seeking attention and had nothing or very little to do with the attack on Wikileaks.org

I know about hackers and hacking and firstly, a DDOS (Distributed Denial of Service) attack is NOT hacking. Not in the strictest use of the term at least.

Secondly, th3j35t3r, by taking credit for the attacks, is basically admitting to having created or having access to a bot-net. As I described in a previous article, a bot-net is where small programs are incidentally downloaded by unsuspecting users and these little bits of computer code allow the creator to take control of that users machine and have it join in on a virtual computer army that bombards an Internet server with requests that will never be completed. In this way, a bot-net can bring an Internet server to a crawl.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6075318/self_proclaimed_hacker_known_as_th3j35t3r.html

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#26 MathMattS
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[QUOTE="LaytonsCat"]

[QUOTE="testfactor888"]

I am against this 100% and consider it government censorship if it is the government preventing people in the US from going to the site. I hope Wikileaks continues to release all the documents they have. Till I know for a fact though that it was the government that did this and not something else (such as just a random hacker) I will reserve my judgment. No matter what anyone does though it won't stop Wikileaks because even if the people in the US can't get to the actual site the information they post will be put on many other sites that will remain accessible

testfactor888

People are going to die from these leaks though. Informants names and addresses have been leaked. Many of those people live in not so nice countries and are easy targets. It will also make informants not want to share info as easily. Making new attacks hard to stop

I am for freedom of speech no matter the cost.

Does that cost include human lives and national security?

As far as I'm concerned, if you're an American citizen and you support something like this that threatens national security, you're a traitor.

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#27 weezyfb
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[QUOTE="testfactor888"][QUOTE="LaytonsCat"]

People are going to die from these leaks though. Informants names and addresses have been leaked. Many of those people live in not so nice countries and are easy targets. It will also make informants not want to share info as easily. Making new attacks hard to stop

MathMattS

I am for freedom of speech no matter the cost.

Does that cost include human lives and national security?

As far as I'm concerned, if you're an American citizen and you support something like this that threatens national security, you're a traitor.

ah yes "national security", has always been an excuse to limit freedoms in the past and always will be it seems.
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#28 MathMattS
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[QUOTE="MathMattS"]

[QUOTE="testfactor888"] I am for freedom of speech no matter the cost.weezyfb

Does that cost include human lives and national security?

As far as I'm concerned, if you're an American citizen and you support something like this that threatens national security, you're a traitor.

ah yes "national security", has always been an excuse to limit freedoms in the past and always will be it seems.

The problem is, without national security, we wouldn't have those freedoms, now, would we?

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#29 redstorm72
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So the government is so afraid of the public knowing what they are doing that they will prevent the public from seeing it through censorship? It's like the government is having a tantrum because someone read their diary.

BTW, WikiLeaks works fine here in Canada :P

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#30 mrbojangles25
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you folks claiming "freedom of speech" and all that stuff need to approach this situation with a bit more brain and a lot less heart.

Believe it or not, secrets can be good. Secrets keep people in difficult situations alive. Secrets keep the US ahead of its enemies (and yes, we do have enemies). We do not live in a perfect world; we need to keep information from certain people, and in rare cases this means the general public as well.

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#31 Netherscourge
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Freedom of Speech is one thing...

This wikileaks weirdo was leaked sensitive information, from someone inside the US government.

The revelation of the leaks may be legal, but the actual leaking by a federal employee or military personell is not and it's grounds for treason.

That freak who's revealing the information isn't as bad as the idiot who's feeding him the information.

Either way, Interpol just put out a warrant for his arrest for rape charges. I'm not sure if that's just a smear tactic by the government, or if this wikileaks guy really is a sicko.

BTW - why would the US government even acknowledge the information in the leaks as legit in the first place? All they had to do was deny it all and it would be laughed at an ignored like all the other consiracy theories out there.

Now they got Hillary Clinton running aroudn the whole planet doing damage control and most of the information has nothing to do with her or Obama - it mostly stems back to the Bush years.

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#33 Colin1192
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[QUOTE="MathMattS"]

[QUOTE="testfactor888"] I am for freedom of speech no matter the cost.weezyfb

Does that cost include human lives and national security?

As far as I'm concerned, if you're an American citizen and you support something like this that threatens national security, you're a traitor.

ah yes "national security", has always been an excuse to limit freedoms in the past and always will be it seems.

yes, anything you dont want the public to know about you just have to slap the old "national security" tag on it and people will buy it

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#35 testfactor888
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[QUOTE="testfactor888"][QUOTE="LaytonsCat"]

People are going to die from these leaks though. Informants names and addresses have been leaked. Many of those people live in not so nice countries and are easy targets. It will also make informants not want to share info as easily. Making new attacks hard to stop

MathMattS

I am for freedom of speech no matter the cost.

Does that cost include human lives and national security?

As far as I'm concerned, if you're an American citizen and you support something like this that threatens national security, you're a traitor.

Than I am a traitor.
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#36 chandlerr_360
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"National Security"? Every single national security problem the U.S. has, which WE the PEOPLE inherit, are because of ruthless and victimizing foreign policy decisions made by the U.S. government of the past century and decade to further corporate agendas. I don't understand how you can call yourself an "American" when you are controlled every single day by corrupt laws spawned by corrupt politicians which influence and promote corrupt corporations. The constitution and the original idea of America had nothing to do with globalization and using worthless monopoly money as a system of control rather than a tool of worth. Defending consitutional rights that millions of young American lives have spilled blood for in centuries past DOES NOT make you a traitor.
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#37 196432160425370547874320627439
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I thought the government wanted net neutrality

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What a flagrant disregard for the first amendment. I haven't really been that pissed off at the government before, but this is absolutely unacceptable.
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#40 Pixel-Pirate
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Since Interpol has issued an arrest warrant for Assange, I'm hoping the U.S. will charge him under the Espionage Act.

Omg, if they could hang a treason charge upon him, then he could get to meet "Gumby".:P:lol:

topsemag55

How can a foreigner be charged with treason toward the US....?

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#41 MattDistillery
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Suerly the removal of this site is illegal under the American constitution? Or are the goverment allowed to break the constitution if they wish?

America 'The land of the free', bit ironic looking at that now isn't it? A real shame considering the countrys formation stems from the people daring to question the policies of their goverment and those in authority.

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#42 Pixel-Pirate
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In the laaaaand of the freeeeeeAce6301

Great to see that the US has now become China.

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#43 hammerofcrom
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you folks claiming "freedom of speech" and all that stuff need to approach this situation with a bit more brain and a lot less heart.

Believe it or not, secrets can be good. Secrets keep people in difficult situations alive. Secrets keep the US ahead of its enemies (and yes, we do have enemies). We do not live in a perfect world; we need to keep information from certain people, and in rare cases this means the general public as well.

mrbojangles25

QFE

(and he even did it without the National Security drop, bravo sir)

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[QUOTE="wstfld"]What a flagrant disregard for the first amendment. I haven't really been that pissed off at the government before, but this is absolutely unacceptable. UnknownSniper65

The first amendment doesn't give you the right to view classified diplmatic cables

Freedom of speech and press is a HUMAN RIGHT guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States. If it is spoken or pressed, regardless of how or why, it is protected by those rights. In turn, you have the right to view them. Censorship of the materials on Wikileak, specifically in the U.S., is a violation of the constitution and basic Human rights.
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[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

Since Interpol has issued an arrest warrant for Assange, I'm hoping the U.S. will charge him under the Espionage Act.

Omg, if they could hang a treason charge upon him, then he could get to meet "Gumby".:P:lol:

Pixel-Pirate

How can a foreigner be charged with treason toward the US....?

He can't ,but his actions are punishable under the Espionage act.

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you folks claiming "freedom of speech" and all that stuff need to approach this situation with a bit more brain and a lot less heart.

Believe it or not, secrets can be good. Secrets keep people in difficult situations alive. Secrets keep the US ahead of its enemies (and yes, we do have enemies). We do not live in a perfect world; we need to keep information from certain people, and in rare cases this means the general public as well.

mrbojangles25

The very reason we have enemies in the first place is because of these secrets.

Our current #1 enemy is a loose organization of angry Muslim fanatics who do not want to see their way of life and society consumed by Western market influence and corporations (namely Oil companies). Can you blame them? Do you enjoy your way of life and beliefs?

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"]In the laaaaand of the freeeeeePixel-Pirate

Great to see that the US has now become China.

DUDE! You are the one who thinks the government should regulate ISPs.
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#48 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"]In the laaaaand of the freeeeeePixel-Pirate

Great to see that the US has now become China.

Oh yeah totally. I'm amazed at this frankly, more so I'm shocked that there are people defending this decision. This is basically shooting the messenger in my opinion. Telling a building inspector that it's his fault the building was condemned rather than those in charge of looking after the building. Though really the way things have been the last 10 years it really shouldn't surprise me.
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

[QUOTE="wstfld"]What a flagrant disregard for the first amendment. I haven't really been that pissed off at the government before, but this is absolutely unacceptable. chandlerr_360

The first amendment doesn't give you the right to view classified diplmatic cables

Freedom of speech and press is a HUMAN RIGHT guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States. If it is spoken or pressed, regardless of how or why, it is protected by those rights. In turn, you have the right to view them. Censorship of the materials on Wikileak, specifically in the U.S., is a violation of the constitution and basic Human rights.

These releases do not expose any evidence of wrong doings. The Pentagon papers showed that the government was lying about its involvement with neighboring countries in the Vietnam War. These diplomatic cables are just an attempt to set the United States back diplomatically.