WikiLeaks: Obama agrees to give away Britain's nuclear secrets...

Gasp? I'm surprised Russia even wants them. I figured MAD was a given.Sajo7

The USA CANNOT be trusted, especially since Russia is a former enemy of America.

Obama should be in custody, this is Prima Facie evidence that Obama is a traitor.

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] I'm fairly certain that most countries in Europe couldn't give a toss about the US.SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="Sajo7"]Gasp? I'm surprised Russia even wants them. I figured MAD was a given.xaos

The USA CANNOT be trusted, especially since Russia is a former enemy of America.

Obama should be in custody, this is Prima Facie evidence that Obama is a traitor.

AHUGECAT

The president of the US is a traitor to the UK?

I seem to recall a declaration thingy that mentioned something about independence, but I might be thinking of something else.

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The USA CANNOT be trusted, especially since Russia is a former enemy of America.

Obama should be in custody, this is Prima Facie evidence that Obama is a traitor.

GabuEx

The president of the US is a traitor to the UK?

I seem to recall a declaration thingy that mentioned something about independence, but I might be thinking of something else.

Gasp? I'm surprised Russia even wants them. I figured MAD was a given.Sajo7

for Russia, Britain having nukes is like Cuba having Russian nukes. If the United states was attacked or attacks russia, Britain would have to follow orders and attack as well. Other European nations are not as closely linked to the American military establishment as Britain is

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

The USA CANNOT be trusted, especially since Russia is a former enemy of America.

Obama should be in custody, this is Prima Facie evidence that Obama is a traitor.

GabuEx

The president of the US is a traitor to the UK?

I seem to recall a declaration thingy that mentioned something about independence, but I might be thinking of something else.

The USA CANNOT be trusted, especially since Russia is a former enemy of America.

Obama should be in custody, this is Prima Facie evidence that Obama is a traitor.

AHUGECAT

While it probably isn't a security threat....it's NOT Obama's place to give out the UK's information. Bad form indeed....LJS9502_basic

Agreed. Nothing feels like betrayel when you tell a friend something in confidence and they betray that confidence.

Why would UK trust the USA with information like this again?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]While it probably isn't a security threat....it's NOT Obama's place to give out the UK's information. Bad form indeed....flazzle

Agreed. Nothing feels like betrayel when you tell a friend something in confidence and they betray that confidence.

Why would UK trust the USA with information like this again?

It... would be kind of hard for the US not to have information about things that it is supplying to the UK...

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]While it probably isn't a security threat....it's NOT Obama's place to give out the UK's information. Bad form indeed....flazzle

Agreed. Nothing feels like betrayel when you tell a friend something in confidence and they betray that confidence.

Why would UK trust the USA with information like this again?

I don't see how that's dangerous, and if Britain objects to this, too damn bad. l4dak47

hahahaha. Grow up. I doubt you would be thinking that same way if it US serials being leaked.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]While it probably isn't a security threat....it's NOT Obama's place to give out the UK's information. Bad form indeed....SF_KiLLaMaN

Agreed. Nothing feels like betrayel when you tell a friend something in confidence and they betray that confidence.

Why would UK trust the USA with information like this again?

Oh so thats okay then? This doesn't scream the phrase "Stabbed in the back" to you?

[QUOTE="l4dak47"]I don't see how that's dangerous, and if Britain objects to this, too damn bad. skiesfall

hahahaha. Grow up. I doubt you would be thinking that same way if it US serials being leaked.

If someone could actually illustrate the way in which this affects... anything... then, perhaps.

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"]I don't see how that's dangerous, and if Britain objects to this, too damn bad. GabuEx

hahahaha. Grow up. I doubt you would be thinking that same way if it US serials being leaked.

If someone could actually illustrate the way in which this affects... anything... then, perhaps.

I agree, this has no impact on Britain, or its nuclear "secrets". But it will surely have an effect on the way that the UK perceives Obama and the current US Government. As i said before, this screams "Stabbed in the back" to me.

Plus, my post was solely to do with what l4dak47 said. About it being "too damn bad".

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[QUOTE="flazzle"]

Agreed. Nothing feels like betrayel when you tell a friend something in confidence and they betray that confidence.

Why would UK trust the USA with information like this again?

skiesfall

Oh so thats okay then? This doesn't scream the phrase "Stabbed in the back" to you?

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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Way to not read. The codes are for nuke the U.S. sold Britain. Meaning that the nukes were made by the U.S. and they know everything about them without having to get any info from Britain.

SF_KiLLaMaN

Oh so thats okay then? This doesn't scream the phrase "Stabbed in the back" to you?

Whatever Russia can do with the information is completely irrelevant. The point i'm making is that, as far as i am aware, the US gave out this information WITHOUT consulting the UK. If the shoe was on the other foot, im sure the story would be different.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="skiesfall"]

Oh so thats okay then? This doesn't scream the phrase "Stabbed in the back" to you?

skiesfall

Whatever Russia can do with the information is completely irrelevant. The point i'm making is that, as far as i am aware, the US gave out this information WITHOUT consulting the UK. If the shoe was on the other foot, im sure the story would be different.

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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] No, it doesn't. Russia really can't do anything with these serial numbers. They can guess how many nukes the U.S. have given them, but that is about it.xaos

Whatever Russia can do with the information is completely irrelevant. The point i'm making is that, as far as i am aware, the US gave out this information WITHOUT consulting the UK. If the shoe was on the other foot, im sure the story would be different.

What? I never said they weren't. I'm saying that if it was the other way round, and the UK gave out serials for US missiles, there would be a huge fuss. In the exact same way the US reacted to Wikileaks releasing the cables. I think people in the UK being pissed off about this is totally justifiable.

Edit: Oh okay, so the link you posted about Katrina is relevant? There is a difference between covering a crisis and basically undermining an alliance.

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="skiesfall"]

Whatever Russia can do with the information is completely irrelevant. The point i'm making is that, as far as i am aware, the US gave out this information WITHOUT consulting the UK. If the shoe was on the other foot, im sure the story would be different.

skiesfall

What? I never said they weren't. I'm saying that if it was the other way round, and the UK gave out serials for US missiles, there would be a huge fuss. In the exact same way the US reacted to Wikileaks releasing the cables. I think people in the UK being pissed off about this is totally justifiable.

Edit: Oh okay, so the link you posted about Katrina is relevant? There is a difference between covering a crisis and basically undermining an alliance.

I know plenty about British law. Clearly if they support wikileaks while America condemns, it really says a lot about America and its "free speech".

Dark_Knight6

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I know plenty about British law. Clearly if they support wikileaks while America condemns, it really says a lot about America and its "free speech".

SeraphimGoddess

Why are the serial numbers so important?Elraptor

Well thats a pretty backhanded move

People do know that "Obama" is not the U.S. government right. Anyway it seems like wikileaks is doing what they wanted. Spreading irrational fear and mistrust in the world. Seriously someone should shut the site down...it is doing nothing positive for the world at all...MgamerBD

People do know that "Obama" is not the U.S. government right. Anyway it seems like wikileaks is doing what they wanted. Spreading irrational fear and mistrust in the world. Seriously someone should shut the site down...it is doing nothing positive for the world at all...MgamerBD

Nor are the poloticians that run the world either!

I really don't understand: why does it undermine the UK's security for someone just to know how many nukes they have, when they have publicly said how many nukes they have?

GabuEx

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"]I don't see how that's dangerous, and if Britain objects to this, too damn bad. GabuEx

hahahaha. Grow up. I doubt you would be thinking that same way if it US serials being leaked.

If someone could actually illustrate the way in which this affects... anything... then, perhaps.

Obama is pushing his luck. First he said we're not best allies and now this. >: (SolidSnake35

I bet it's all because he didn't receive his noble tittle yet.

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They support free speech more than America does, so f*** them and their allegiance.

Yeah.. the problem isn't that WikiLeaks published what Obama did, it's what Obama did.

I think Wikileaks is showing us that the public at large is not ready to see how the sausage is made vis a vis international diplomacy.Danm_999

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]I think Wikileaks is showing us that the public at large is not ready to see how the sausage is made vis a vis international diplomacy.l4dak47