Will atheism cease to exist in this reality?

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Clearly a severe case of potatonism.

Yes. If you believe there is no God you lack belief in a God. Not really, the definitions I use are widely accepted.

Yes I don't think it's useless to have a word for people who neither believes or disbelieves in God, i.e. agnostics.

I understand the definitions you gave me very well. They're just very clumsy. I've done alot of research, and I'm definitely not misusing the word. No, I said atheists would be a subset of agnostics. Although it depends.

Fortunately, I'm not trying to change the meaning of the word. I accept the definition.

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@KHAndAnime: Agreed.

No I'm not. Don't jump to conclusions. I never said that one needs.

You must be very confused. I never claimed that it isn't a table.

I never claimed that you claimed that I claimed that it wasn't a table.

Come on guys, now you're just trolling each other XD Don't make me lock the thread =)

I never claimed that you did. What are you on about?

It's a gerg-off!

I didn't claim that you did. Out of curiosity.

Then you're clearly a (insult removed) who doesn't understand what atheism is. Its a lack of belief, not necessarily a positive affirmation of non-existence. All New Borns are atheists simply because they have no knowledge of what god/religion is.

Open up a dictionary and look up what the prefix 'A' means. It simply connotes being 'with out'. This is why the religious folk are seen as being stupid, they don't even understand what the term atheism even means prior to shitting all over the concept.

I'm not a (insult removed) lol. No it's a positive affirmation of non-existence.

Look up what the word pine means, and then look up what the word apple means. Also, one could say, that with this logic, an agnostic would be synonymous to an ignoramus. The definition of a word is not dependent on its etymology. I'm not religious whatsoever so this does not apply here.

No it is not. Gnosticism is about positive affirmation either way.

Ya will stay an atheist till I die. In fact I find more and more people are willing to actually state they are atheist then when I was younger. Hell I went to a catholic school and most of the people I knew either thought it was bullshit and didn't talk about it or recognized themselves as an atheist. It's only becoming more popular as more and more people start thinking for themselves.

@HoolaHoopMan: Please don't resort to insults. I understand you might feel strongly about the discussion but please discuss without violating the Code of Conduct.

No, I understand that words can have multiple definitions. You seem to be having a hard time understanding English. You should hire an English tutor. Maybe you will then not be very confused.

So what's then the difference between an agnostic theist and a gnostic one?

I clearly understand it. I said that an atheist is defined as someone who believes there is no God, so, by definition you're not an atheist.

Atheism will always exist as long as there is suffering, death and injustice in our world.

Atheism is part of the world we live in and that is never going to change.

You know today I saw a typical poster outside a church recently depicting an idyllic country scene, complete with pretty waterfall, a little mist, pretty flowers, lambs and song birds, bearing the slogan "God is love".

Why is it that those who believe that God is responsible for the way the world is, only show the good things?

Would it not be just as correct to show say a picture of thousands of corpses as a result of a severe drought - and include the slogan 'God is love'?

The church only promotes the one (good) side of God's supposed work. It is therefore, nothing more than a brainwashing propaganda exercise.

The church must think us daft, and in order to believe their cozy, rosy picture of the world with good old father God taking care of things, we would have to be.

If 'God' can be praised for any good event that happens in our world, then this is claiming that God is responsible for the way the world is. That being the case God must also be responsible for the bad things as well, so why not attribute them to Him? If the bad things are not due to God, who says so? God? To blame mankind for these 'bad' events can not be right. Is it our fault that we have droughts, storms, floods, volcanic eruptions, heat waves, ice ages, earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, tornadoes, disease, etc.etc.? I find the way that the church "cherry pick" 'God's work ' to be extremely annoying. If its good, its the work of God, if its bad its just one of those things. Why not just accept the fact that events are the result of chance, cause and effect, and random factors? If you do believe God is responsible for the way the world is then as well as praising Him for the good things you would also have to blame Him for the headline events listed on the following poster:

Why does this all-powerful, all-loving and caring God create Plagues, Tsunamis, Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Floods, Wars, Earthquakes, Cancers and hundreds of debilitating diseases and serious body malfunctions?

There are 12,000 known diseases that affect and punish mankind indiscriminately. Why does he permit millions of INNOCENT children and animals to die in this horrible way?

Why does this all powerful and caring god permit totally "innocent children" to die at birth? Or worse, be born lacking eyesight, a fully developed brain, deaf and dumb, missing limbs etc.? Why are some born idiots and others with super intelligence? Why are some born into wealth and others pauper poor? Why does he permit over 2,000,000 innocent children to die of starvation every year? Why are his human creations designed to deteriorate into a miserable and devastating old age regardless of their religious affiliation?

God supposedly created the world like it is, to punish man for Adam and Eve's 'original sin'.

But why does he also punish supposedly innocent children and animals with thousands of diseases, birth defects, starvation and to be eaten by other animals?

Why did this all powerful and loving creator create things like sharks, jelly fish, octopus, lions, tigers, rhinoceros, wolves, poisonous snakes, stinging and poisonous insects, poisonous plants etc.? Why did this caring and benevolent god create animals, including man, that need to painfully kill and eat other animals to survive?

World War I claimed 9,000,000 lives of people of many religious faiths.

World II indiscriminately claimed over 20,000,000 lives of people of all ages and religious faiths, plus a vast destruction of property and more millions maimed for life.

The recent Asian Tsunami has claimed the lives of 200,000 men, women and children of all religious persuasions. Over 100,000 of these were totally INNOCENT children!

The recent Earthquake in Nepal claimed the lives of 8934 people in total.

There were three major epidemics of the Bubonic Plaque - in the 6th, 14th. and 17th centuries. The death toll was over 137 million men, women and totally innocent children.

The influenza of 1918-1919 killed at least 25 million men, women and innocent children indiscriminately.

Diseases like malaria, AIDS, tuberculosis, etc. maim and kill millions indiscriminately every year. More millions die of starvation and malnutrition.

These indiscriminately afflicted the young and old, atheists and those of all religious persuasions.

Meanwhile MAN, NOT god, has developed defenses and cures for hundreds of serious diseases. Man has learned to create shelter, heat and cooling, purify water, world wide electronic communications, power and transportation systems including flying through the air.

Man has created a wonderful medical and drug system and improved housing and food production. The result of MAN'S inventiveness has almost doubled the average life span. And none of this was created by any gods.

Perhaps your loving and caring god is actually a cruel and heartless jerk.

If he treats us so poorly during life, why do you think he will let us enjoy peace and eternal happiness in his Heaven? And why does he keep all this a secret by preventing communication with our dead parents, siblings and friends? (Or this god himself?)

There are thousands of different religious and god beliefs but NO OJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE for the actual existence of ANY of these gods. ALL god beliefs are based on the unsubstantiated 'opinions and claims of errant men.

If there is a god that created the Universe, he is obviously not a caring and loving god. Nor is he an "Intelligent Designer". The objective evidence is if there is a god creator, he has NO concern about the welfare of the creatures on Earth. Maybe on the contrary in fact.

The objective evidence is that no gods created man but quite the opposite; that man invented gods!

I challenge god-believers to supply ANY objective verifiable evidence that their god actually exists except in their over-active imaginations.

That's enough. The next troll in this thread is going to get suspended.

uhm, this is a really ignorant and narrow world view... We have more information than ever before and more people are becoming atheists, if anything religion is dying. Just look at scandinavia where 1 in 5 believe in god here.

"Atheists used the argument a lot that who we are is in our brains."

What the ****...? I don't even... That's not an argument, atheists say that after life there's nothing because there's no proof of anything else. Atheists believe in facts, not fiction. Popular? Atheists have never been popular... You know why? Because religious people have killed non-believers for thousands of years...

Comments removed and users suspended. Some people just don't know when to stop...hopefully I don't have to suspend anyone else. Please keep to the topic and with proper discussion.

Psudeo intellectual internet slap fight of get the last word in, complete with massive quote trees. Just another day on GS OT.

Jesus (who was white) is the real god, the rest are all fake fairy tales.

There will always going to be people who won't believe in hocus pocus without definitive proof. The main difference today aside from more scientific knowledge is that it's more socially acceptable, in some countries at least, to admit that you're an atheist. This wasn't the case for most of human history.