will humans ever figure out how to travel faster than light?

/sigh* ok there are two ways of traveling From point A to point B, currently humans can only travel from point A to point B by physically trekking the distance from point A to point. The other way is by manipulating the positions of point A to point B. let me dumb it down for you

First way of traveling: ok your sitting at the dinner table and you to go to the refrigerator. From Point A (the seat) you would get up and walk to the refrigerator (point B). this is the normal way we humans travel through out physical plain.

Second way of traveling: Ok your sitting at the dinner table and you want to go to the refrigerator. From point A (the seat) you would manipulate the distance between point A&B, thus making it shorter.

what i'm trying to get at is that it is possible (technically)to travel faster than lightby Warping space&time(as space and time are related).

----think i should wrap this up

Summary: yes it is possible to travel faster than light, but by unconventional travel means: either by "wormholes" "jumps" warpingspace and manipulating the space medium.

howis it possibleby using techonology? i personally dont know how humans can achieve the second type of traveling.Ask a physics professor or wait till the unified theory is verified( string theory?)

Either way it's to early in human tech developement to simply say no it isnt possible.

btw the speed of sound is 600mph not 700mph

middito

[QUOTE="TongHua"]I don't think you can figure out how to break the laws of physics.verparanoidpers

If space is a flat plane, then would making a wormhole around it not take longer? It's like tunneling underground when you could just walk to your destination.

Its wierd. I coulda sworn 300 years ago I was in this forum and someone said "will we every build something that makes us fly?".

Heck yeah its possible.
kevint1818

That's stupiud. You're assuming that just because some things are possible, EVERYTHING is possible.

Furthermore, 300 years ago it was known that flight was possible. After all, people knew about birds and bugs back then. No one doubted that flight was physically possible, they just weren't sure on how to do it. By contrast, all current scientific knoiwledge shows FTL travel to be IMPOSSIBLE (and no, wormholes and warp drives don't count as FTL travel, and even then we're not 100% sure that they're possible).

Now, if you're gonna say that it IS possible, you'd better have some pretty damn convincing evidence to go against everything that we've learned since the early 20th century. I await your evidence.

Wait, what's the very fastest speed something can be pulled by gravity? It has to be something in the speed range of light...camreeno360

it depends which gravity you are talking about. On earth the terminal velocity is no where near the speed of light. I cant remember it off the top of my head, but trust me, it isnt even 1/10000th of the speed of light. Anyways, to answer the TC, its impossible to travel faster than the speed of light LOCALLY. but it is theoretically possible to travels faster than the speed of light in the grand scheme of things through wormholes.

edit: I cant give u a set number for terminal velocity, but the terminal velocity of an average sized male sky diver is about 200km/h. it all depends on mass, volume, drag, gravitational force and density of the medium (on earth its a mixture of oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen + many other elements and compounds)

[QUOTE="camreeno360"]Wait, what's the very fastest speed something can be pulled by gravity? It has to be something in the speed range of light...-Serpahim-

it depends which gravity you are talking about. On earth the terminal velocity is no where near the speed of light. I cant remember it off the top of my head, but trust me, it isnt even 1/10000th of the speed of light. Anyways, to answer the TC, its impossible to travel faster than the speed of light LOCALLY. but it is theoretically possible to travels faster than the speed of light in the grand scheme of things through wormholes.

Anway I was saying, since anything with a larger mass has a larger gravitational force....Say we had a planet with 10 trillion times the mass of earth and some rock was getting sucked into the force. So since things speed up at 10m/s2, would the object eventually get to the speed of light or pass it? If the velocity just kept getting bigger and bigger, I don't understand how that won't work. It's complicated.

Where have you been?
Have you missed the last 10 seasons of Stargate SG-1???

[QUOTE="-Serpahim-"]

[QUOTE="camreeno360"]Wait, what's the very fastest speed something can be pulled by gravity? It has to be something in the speed range of light...camreeno360

it depends which gravity you are talking about. On earth the terminal velocity is no where near the speed of light. I cant remember it off the top of my head, but trust me, it isnt even 1/10000th of the speed of light. Anyways, to answer the TC, its impossible to travel faster than the speed of light LOCALLY. but it is theoretically possible to travels faster than the speed of light in the grand scheme of things through wormholes.

Anway I was saying, since anything with a larger mass has a larger gravitational force....Say we had a planet with 10 trillion times the mass of earth and some rock was getting sucked into the force. So since things speed up at 10m/s2, would the object eventually get to the speed of light or pass it? If the velocity just kept getting bigger and bigger, I don't understand how that won't work. It's complicated.

well, at the speed of light, the object would turn into pure energy (light) and light cant pass the speed of light...so no :P

No, because that violates the laws of physics and unless we happen to have gotten those wrong its not happening.Runningflame570

unless if we find a way to shrink ourselves to the subatomic level (maybe if we download ourselves into pure data, and we have better data streamers, we could stream ourselves to other places at a sub atomic lvl where the laws of physics are "fluid" and faster than light travel is theoretically possible....) or we could go to the center of a black hole where time and space converge and at that point, any movement you make would be faster than light because time would have stopped (or some say, would be non existant o_O')

[QUOTE="middito"]

/sigh* ok there are two ways of traveling From point A to point B, currently humans can only travel from point A to point B by physically trekking the distance from point A to point. The other way is by manipulating the positions of point A to point B. let me dumb it down for you

First way of traveling: ok your sitting at the dinner table and you to go to the refrigerator. From Point A (the seat) you would get up and walk to the refrigerator (point B). this is the normal way we humans travel through out physical plain.

Second way of traveling: Ok your sitting at the dinner table and you want to go to the refrigerator. From point A (the seat) you would manipulate the distance between point A&B, thus making it shorter.

what i'm trying to get at is that it is possible (technically)to travel faster than lightby Warping space&time(as space and time are related).

----think i should wrap this up

Summary: yes it is possible to travel faster than light, but by unconventional travel means: either by "wormholes" "jumps" warpingspace and manipulating the space medium.

howis it possibleby using techonology? i personally dont know how humans can achieve the second type of traveling.Ask a physics professor or wait till the unified theory is verified( string theory?)

Either way it's to early in human tech developement to simply say no it isnt possible.

btw the speed of sound is 600mph not 700mph

dgbiker1

Has the same effect.

Kinda like generating more energy vs using it more efficiently.

i truly believe it is possible. i dont care what any form of science tells us. i know its wrong, and in 10,000 yrs from now you all.....won't to?? unless they solve the whole death thing to.

just because we haven't measured anything in the universe that travels faster than light, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. and we as humans have a thing for taking things and manipulating them to make them better. I think down the road this will apply. even if its not scientifically possible, i think we will learn to bend or break the rules.

and also, i dont get the people who talk about wormholes, but say we won't/aren't traveling faster than light...well ok that argument might be won on a technicality. we wouldn't really be "traveling" faster than light. but we would definitely be faster.

Nope. The day we do that, the Earth will be destroyed. Imagine this:

Scientist: 'I finally discovered how to travel faster than...' *explosion*

Physics says it's impossible. Not improbable; impossible.

Yeah apparently it's impossible to ever reach it.

ok lets get some scientific facts into this matter. What is the speed of light, simply the speed at which photons travel in the vacuum of space (approx 3x10^8 m/s). Now photons are one of the elementory particles defined in the standard model of the universe (ie it is one of the building blocks that matter is made out of). The problem is the standard model isnt fully proven and there are missing parts (many of these missing parts are to be investigated soon at CERN's LHC).

Now photons tavel at the speed of light and the reason why nothing else can is because everything has mass (or as i look at it, more mass than photons). So if there is something smaller than photons, technically given the same energy, it would travel faster. Although many people including physicists dont believe this, it has yet to be proven wrong or right.

also, all of you saying we would turn to mush at the speed of light or we couldnt handle the geforce, imagine travelling in a rocket which constantly accelerates at 1m/s^2 (ie one second it is travelling 1m/s, the next 2m/s), we could handle it all the way to the speed of light. The reason why we have yet to reach the speed of light is because it takes a huge amount of energy and the speed at which the exaust travels out of the back isnt at the speed of light.

The reason why we have yet to reach the speed of light is because it takes a huge amount of energy and the speed at which the exaust travels out of the back isnt at the speed of light.Gigagamer2

The speed at which exhaust travels out the back has nothing to do with why we can't reach the speed of light.

Physics says it's impossible. Not improbable; impossible.

Oleg_Huzwog

physics say its impossible but its physics as we know it. Dark matter and dark energy are the key. they go against everything we know. In the universe there are things we cant explain and with dark energy i know we can travel faster then light

[QUOTE="Gigagamer2"]The reason why we have yet to reach the speed of light is because it takes a huge amount of energy and the speed at which the exaust travels out of the back isnt at the speed of light.Oleg_Huzwog

The speed at which exhaust travels out the back has nothing to do with why we can't reach the speed of light.

think about it, when u push off a wall, do u suddenly travel faster than your arms were pushing you?

Where have you been?
Have you missed the last 10 seasons of Stargate SG-1???

ufopuller

Unfortunately there isn't a Stargate at Giza or under Antarctica, I checked. :(

And they have stopped the series ( :cry: ) so we'll never know how to build one ourselves. :(

Atlantis may hold some hope though. *crosses fingers*

However the concept is not to travel faster than light to a destination, but to make the distance between the 2 points shorter which may be possible to do in the future. :D

think about it, when u push off a wall, do u suddenly travel faster than your arms were pushing you?

Gigagamer2

I am well aware of Newton's Third Law, but that has nothing to do with the impossibility of accelerating a finite mass to the speed of light. Mass can approach relativistic speeds but can never reach c.

not this year.

[QUOTE="verparanoidpers"]topichollywood6258

yes and we already have, using a particle accelerator to create an immense amount of energy a wormhole within quantum foam could be created and expanded allowing humans to travel anywhere in our universe and others in a matter of seconds

It's not possible.

and if it was you would arrive at a destination before you departed... and that doesn't even make sense

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Brainkiller05

ok lets get some scientific facts into this matter. What is the speed of light, simply the speed at which photons travel in the vacuum of space (approx 3x10^8 m/s). Now photons are one of the elementory particles defined in the standard model of the universe (ie it is one of the building blocks that matter is made out of). The problem is the standard model isnt fully proven and there are missing parts (many of these missing parts are to be investigated soon at CERN's LHC).

Now photons tavel at the speed of light and the reason why nothing else can is because everything has mass (or as i look at it, more mass than photons). So if there is something smaller than photons, technically given the same energy, it would travel faster. Although many people including physicists dont believe this, it has yet to be proven wrong or right.

also, all of you saying we would turn to mush at the speed of light or we couldnt handle the geforce, imagine travelling in a rocket which constantly accelerates at 1m/s^2 (ie one second it is travelling 1m/s, the next 2m/s), we could handle it all the way to the speed of light. The reason why we have yet to reach the speed of light is because it takes a huge amount of energy and the speed at which the exaust travels out of the back isnt at the speed of light.

Gigagamer2

It makes sense, it's called time travel. :PNot saying its possible though.DrinkDuff

Time travel is possible. That is fact, not theory. Of course, it's only possible in the forward direction.

I doubt mankind will even be able to reach the speed of light.. A bowling ball thats like 3kg's, would need the energy produced on the planet for an entire week to accelerate it to that speed.. So good luck trying to reach the speed of light.

And good luck trying to protect your craft from a speck of dust which would heavily damage or destroy your space craft when going at those speeds.

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

Physics says it's impossible. Not improbable; impossible.

futures_past

physics say its impossible but its physics as we know it. Dark matter and dark energy are the key. they go against everything we know. In the universe there are things we cant explain and with dark energy i know we can travel faster then light

There is dark matter, but there is no such thing as dark energy. It's impossible because the amount of energy you need to travel faster goes up exponentially as you approach the speed of light. It becomes infinite.

[QUOTE="futures_past"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

Physics says it's impossible. Not improbable; impossible.

sonicare

physics say its impossible but its physics as we know it. Dark matter and dark energy are the key. they go against everything we know. In the universe there are things we cant explain and with dark energy i know we can travel faster then light

There is dark matter, but there is no such thing as dark energy. It's impossible because the amount of energy you need to travel faster goes up exponentially as you approach the speed of light. It becomes infinite.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/051129_dark_energy.html

here in lies the secret. i have been working on this for 10 years, and i think i have figured out a few things