Will Religion Eventually Die Out? (WARNING! RELIGION THREAD!)

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#51 yoshi-lnex
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[QUOTE="jakecufc8888"][QUOTE="john_doe2"]

 Did WW2 have anything to do with religion? john_doe2

Yeah, Hitler killing the jews.

Not exactly. He wasn't trying to convert them or anything. He was just using them as scapegoat to gain power. He was blaming them for some of Germany's problems. If they didn't exist, he probably would've used some other group as a scapegoat.

He also used socialists, communists, and intellectuals (jews often fell into these catagories) as scapegoats in order to get rid of left wingers within the goverment.....
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#52 john_doe2
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[QUOTE="john_doe2"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"][QUOTE="john_doe2"]

 Did WW2 have anything to do with religion? Hewkii

Yeah, Hitler killing the jews.

Not exactly. He wasn't trying to convert them or anything. He was just using them as scapegoat to gain power. He was blaming them for some of Germany's problems. If they didn't exist, he probably would've used some other group as a scapegoat.

I don't believe the Crusades were about converting Islamics.

I don't believe we're talking about the Crusades now are we? But yes, the main point of the Crusades was to regain the Holy Land from the Muslims. Not exactly about converting Islamics.  

But my main point is that I am tired of people blaming religion for all wars and other horrible things when religion is not the main cause of all of it. And I especially hate it when people think that if religion were gone, the whole world would all of the sudden be heaven. It wouldn't be heaven. Far from it. There would be plenty of chaos and conflict to go round. What really causes suffering in this world, IMO, is men not controlling there natural selfish tendancies.

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#53 john_doe2
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[QUOTE="john_doe2"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"][QUOTE="john_doe2"]

 Did WW2 have anything to do with religion? yoshi-lnex

Yeah, Hitler killing the jews.

Not exactly. He wasn't trying to convert them or anything. He was just using them as scapegoat to gain power. He was blaming them for some of Germany's problems. If they didn't exist, he probably would've used some other group as a scapegoat.

He also used socialists, communists, and intellectuals (jews often fell into these catagories) as scapegoats in order to get rid of left wingers within the goverment.....

Yeah, he really didn't do all the horrible things he did for religious reasons. More so for political reasons.

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#54 chip_money
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I dont think it ever will..
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#55 Shadow_Link50
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[QUOTE="john_doe2"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"][QUOTE="john_doe2"]

 Did WW2 have anything to do with religion? Hewkii

Yeah, Hitler killing the jews.

Not exactly. He wasn't trying to convert them or anything. He was just using them as scapegoat to gain power. He was blaming them for some of Germany's problems. If they didn't exist, he probably would've used some other group as a scapegoat.

I don't believe the Crusades were about converting Islamics.

Well actually Hitler didn't care as much about the Jewish religion, but more the Jewish race...

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#56 john_doe2
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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="john_doe2"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"][QUOTE="john_doe2"]

 Did WW2 have anything to do with religion? Shadow_Link50

Yeah, Hitler killing the jews.

Not exactly. He wasn't trying to convert them or anything. He was just using them as scapegoat to gain power. He was blaming them for some of Germany's problems. If they didn't exist, he probably would've used some other group as a scapegoat.

I don't believe the Crusades were about converting Islamics.

Well actually Hitler didn't care as much about the Jewish religion, but more the Jewish race...

Yeah, so really, IMO, I don't think there was really any religion involved in Hitler's terrible ambitions at all. It was all bigotry towards race rather than religion mostly.

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#57 bacon_is_sweet
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I love how alot of people here think religion is the only reason people go to war.  Major religion wars really only happend in the past.  And the muslims are the only ones now adays that are fighting a religious war.  And WWII was not a religious war, the war was started based on Germany's expansion of its border, in this case Belgium.
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#58 yamum2
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It cant die out because it is true
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#59 RoyTheViking
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Until Science can explain the creation of the universe and human race, religion will continue. Which I cannot see that happening any time in the next forever.
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#60 BEAN_LARD_MULCH
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CODE44!!!
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#61 ufopuller
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I hope so...even if its just to stop religion threads.Bourbons3
Religions NO.  Threads - hope so

 

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#62 Fortier
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There will always be religion as long as humans exist.
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#63 MarioFanatic
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nope
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#64 Kalel559
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No. When something's based on truth then it doesn't change. Maybe people will stop excepting certain religions but they'll never go away unless they're not based on truth.

 Time is the ultimate crap filter, you can use it to see what's really God inspired or not...

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#65 Banestyrelsen
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I've been thinking about this. Since religion, for the most part, is reflective of the general ideas and views of a society, will religion eventually die out? I mean, it can be said that science (no, not Scientology), is our relgion. I mean, we have all these scientific theories of how we came to be, how life works, etc. These theories and facts are being taught in a good majority of our schools (not alongside the beliefs of an organized religion, might I add). We, for the most part, no longer believe in a sun god, or any other gods that represent different natural phenomenon. 

American society, compared to how we were hundreds of years ago, has become more lax when it comes to relgion. I don't have to worry about being labeled as a heretic and being abused for believing something contrary to Christianity in most parts of the country.

Will religion die out eventually? If so, will some wacky new beliefs system rise up to take it's place? Is science our religion?

Discuss. 

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I don't think so. 

Religious practice may vary with time, but the portion of the population that is 'religious' will probably stay about the same in the future. Our ancestors were not as religious as they are often portrayed, however 'modernity' does not seem to displace religion. I don't think it's about specific beliefs as much as it is about the extent to which you let your philosophy - whatever it may be - assume central stage in your life.

Christianity is a special case in some respects in that the Bible contains very specific descriptions about the solar system etc. which can be scientifically falsified. It is also a chronological account of the history of the world, which can also be disproven (e.g. the Earth is demonstrably older than what the Bible claims).

The Qur'an, on the other hand, is basically a legal document. Since it does not make any cosmological claims that can be contradicted, it is not vulnerable to falsification in the same way. Therefore the science/religion dichotomy has not been very pronounced in Islam the way it has in Christianity the last five hundred years.

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#66 glitchgeeman
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I doubt religion will ever die out completely. Also depends on religion. I mean, small religions like Zoroastrianism and Buddhism could die out in a few centuries, but something as big as Christianity probably won't ever die.

Also, as long as science cannot explain everything there will be a religion to give people dirction and faith.

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#67 AgostonF
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Blech, I don't think so, but it wouldn't do so much harm in my opinion.
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#68 Hewkii
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No. When something's based on truth then it doesn't change. 

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continental drift vs Tectonics...
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#69 selbie
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As long as there is fear or mystery about things then there will be religion. But i think we will become more agnostic in the future.
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#70 dommeus
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Please stop with the religion threads. All they do is incite heated discussions that can lead to flame wars.

I doubt you even genuinely care what people's answers are, I bet you just want to watch people argue.
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Well yeah that's why I came here.

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#71 FoamingPanda
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I hope it doesn't die out completely.

But it needs to become much less important, and old religious dogmas should be realized as superstitious nonsense.

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#72 Kalel559
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[QUOTE="Kalel559"]

No. When something's based on truth then it doesn't change.

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continental drift vs Tectonics...

Care to explain?
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#73 cmhawk
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doubt it
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#74 Flow4U
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Religion will never die, who knows tomorrow a new one may appear.

Really what stopping it, surly not god.

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#75 Kalel559
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Religion will never die, who knows tomorrow a new one may appear.

Really what stopping it, surly not god.

Flow4U
But what validity is there to any "new" religion? Anything that's based on truth has to be timeless. Truth is absolute, not relative, therefore it will always be.
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#76 Tax_The_Acorns
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No. Because there's Faith. Faith cannot be destroyed, therefor, neither can religion.