Will the United States go to war with Iran within the next 5 years?

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#1 Shenmue_Jehuty
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Why?
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#2 X360PS3AMD05
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That was the plan.
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I guess, but I can't say for sure.
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#4 rimnet00
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If McCain wins office, I wouldn't be very suprised.
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#5 deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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If Bush had another year in office to work with, I would think it would be a sure thing. If Mccain wins, I think its very possible. I dont think he's beyond a warrantless war (We'll stay in Iraq for 100 years if need be.)
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#6 remmbermytitans
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I hope not, but, I do think that someone needs to tell Iran, that they cannot have nuclear weapons. And the only way thats going to happen, is if the U.S. begins to restart diplomacy, and become "friendly" to them again. (aka, take them off the "axis-of-evil")
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#7 Mr_Manikin52
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Maybe a one-day precision strike on Iranian Nuclear Weapons Facilities.:roll:

Air Force F-22s and Navy F-35s in action! Hell yeah!

We are so screwed if we do nothing about it!

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#8 akatsuki0wn3d
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probably, didn't Israel's government say Iran has a nuke?
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#9 KG86
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I hope not.
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#10 fallconet
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seems i'll meet some OT posters in tehran among next five years.:P

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#11 bman784
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If all of the lies that are being propogated by the government are to be believed, than yes. If the truth is objectively observed, then no. Iran is an enemy of Israel, but they pose no realistic threat, seeing as their nuclear weapons program was shut down in 2003. The current administration is trying to crate animosity to further their political agenda, which is pretty sickening, considering the implications of a conflict with Iran.
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Every time a post is made meant to incite hatred against conservatives, an angel loses his wings, god kills a kitten, and i eat a piece of bacon. Just think about that for a while...

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I very highly doubt they are trying to make nuclear weapons. But even if they are its not like they would actually use them. They are too proud of there Persian ancestry and culture to end it all from us nuking them after they nuke Israel.

Also if they are trying to make nuclear bombs so what? We have thousands its kind of hypocritical of us to tell another nation "No you can't have them, but we can"

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I very highly doubt they are trying to make nuclear weapons. But even if they are its not like they would actually use them. They are too proud of there Persian ancestry and culture to end it all from us nuking them after they nuke Israel.

Also if they are trying to make nuclear bombs so what? We have thousands its kind of hypocritical of us to tell another nation "No you can't have them, but we can"

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If you have a gun, is it hypocritical of you to tell a guy, fresh out of a mental institution who thinks the world wants to kill him, that he shouldnt be allowed to have a gun?

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#15 SunofVich
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[QUOTE="SunofVich"]

I very highly doubt they are trying to make nuclear weapons. But even if they are its not like they would actually use them. They are too proud of there Persian ancestry and culture to end it all from us nuking them after they nuke Israel.

Also if they are trying to make nuclear bombs so what? We have thousands its kind of hypocritical of us to tell another nation "No you can't have them, but we can"

Tolwan

If you have a gun, is it hypocritical of you to tell a guy, fresh out of a mental institution who thinks the world wants to kill him, that he shouldnt be allowed to have a gun?

Everyone should have a gun, even the guy fresh out of a mental institution, why you might ask? Well he is out right? So nothing is wrong with him. But just on the off chance that the treatment did not go over so well if he was to try to kill someone everyone around would also have guns and they would be inclined to shoot him dead.

Same with nukes. If everyone has them and one decides to use them everyone else is going to use them on that one. Its called deterant

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[QUOTE="Tolwan"][QUOTE="SunofVich"]

I very highly doubt they are trying to make nuclear weapons. But even if they are its not like they would actually use them. They are too proud of there Persian ancestry and culture to end it all from us nuking them after they nuke Israel.

Also if they are trying to make nuclear bombs so what? We have thousands its kind of hypocritical of us to tell another nation "No you can't have them, but we can"

SunofVich

If you have a gun, is it hypocritical of you to tell a guy, fresh out of a mental institution who thinks the world wants to kill him, that he shouldnt be allowed to have a gun?

Everyone should have a gun, even the guy fresh out of a mental institution, why you might ask? Well he is out right? So nothing is wrong with him. But just on the off chance that the treatment did not go over so well if he was to try to kill someone everyone around would also have guns and they would be inclined to shoot him dead.

Same with nukes. If everyone has them and one decides to use them everyone else is going to use them on that one. Its called deterant

While you are right, before he is taken out, he will most likely kill ATLEAST 1 person before people shoot him. And that's if he doesnt decide to go after the other people who dont have guns, then you have to wait for other people that do have guns to come in and help.

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#17 Tolwan
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[QUOTE="Tolwan"][QUOTE="SunofVich"]

I very highly doubt they are trying to make nuclear weapons. But even if they are its not like they would actually use them. They are too proud of there Persian ancestry and culture to end it all from us nuking them after they nuke Israel.

Also if they are trying to make nuclear bombs so what? We have thousands its kind of hypocritical of us to tell another nation "No you can't have them, but we can"

SunofVich

If you have a gun, is it hypocritical of you to tell a guy, fresh out of a mental institution who thinks the world wants to kill him, that he shouldnt be allowed to have a gun?

Everyone should have a gun, even the guy fresh out of a mental institution, why you might ask? Well he is out right? So nothing is wrong with him. But just on the off chance that the treatment did not go over so well if he was to try to kill someone everyone around would also have guns and they would be inclined to shoot him dead.

Same with nukes. If everyone has them and one decides to use them everyone else is going to use them on that one. Its called deterant

While you are right, before he is taken out, he will most likely kill ATLEAST 1 person before people shoot him. And that's if he doesnt decide to go after the other people who dont have guns, then you have to wait for other people that do have guns to come in and help.

Think about it, if other people are holding guns, is that going to stop a desperate wacko from using his? No different than iran. He despises Israel, do you want to trust that Everyone else will act as a detterant to those who are potentially suicidal?

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[QUOTE="SunofVich"]

I very highly doubt they are trying to make nuclear weapons. But even if they are its not like they would actually use them. They are too proud of there Persian ancestry and culture to end it all from us nuking them after they nuke Israel.

Also if they are trying to make nuclear bombs so what? We have thousands its kind of hypocritical of us to tell another nation "No you can't have them, but we can"

Tolwan

If you have a gun, is it hypocritical of you to tell a guy, fresh out of a mental institution who thinks the world wants to kill him, that he shouldnt be allowed to have a gun?


It's hypocritical to accuse him of having a gun, even while your buddy is standing right next to you saying that he checked and can verify he doesn't have one. What's that poor mentally challenged guy going to think?
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#19 Tolwan
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[QUOTE="Tolwan"][QUOTE="SunofVich"]

I very highly doubt they are trying to make nuclear weapons. But even if they are its not like they would actually use them. They are too proud of there Persian ancestry and culture to end it all from us nuking them after they nuke Israel.

Also if they are trying to make nuclear bombs so what? We have thousands its kind of hypocritical of us to tell another nation "No you can't have them, but we can"

bman784

If you have a gun, is it hypocritical of you to tell a guy, fresh out of a mental institution who thinks the world wants to kill him, that he shouldnt be allowed to have a gun?


It's hypocritical to accuse him of having a gun, even while your buddy is standing right next to you saying that he checked and can verify he doesn't have one. What's that poor mentally challenged guy going to think?

I'm not talking about that at all. That's another convo alltogether. We're talking about the prospect of *Allowing* iran to have a nuke if it were indeed attempting to gain access to/acquire/build/etc nuclear weapons.

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[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="Tolwan"][QUOTE="SunofVich"]

I very highly doubt they are trying to make nuclear weapons. But even if they are its not like they would actually use them. They are too proud of there Persian ancestry and culture to end it all from us nuking them after they nuke Israel.

Also if they are trying to make nuclear bombs so what? We have thousands its kind of hypocritical of us to tell another nation "No you can't have them, but we can"

Tolwan

If you have a gun, is it hypocritical of you to tell a guy, fresh out of a mental institution who thinks the world wants to kill him, that he shouldnt be allowed to have a gun?


It's hypocritical to accuse him of having a gun, even while your buddy is standing right next to you saying that he checked and can verify he doesn't have one. What's that poor mentally challenged guy going to think?

I'm not talking about that at all. That's another convo alltogether. We're talking about the prospect of *Allowing* iran to have a nuke if it were indeed attempting to gain access to/acquire/build/etc nuclear weapons.


Well seeing as it isn't, if we're going by the current intelligence, that would be irrelevent. But, purely hypothetically, if they were, then it would be somewhat of a dubious issue. But unless we had full UN consent and a legitimate reason for concern, there would be nothing we could do about it. But seeing as Iran knows our stances, allegiances and capibilities, I doubt that they would be stupid enough to attempt such a thing in the first place.
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[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="Tolwan"][QUOTE="SunofVich"]

I very highly doubt they are trying to make nuclear weapons. But even if they are its not like they would actually use them. They are too proud of there Persian ancestry and culture to end it all from us nuking them after they nuke Israel.

Also if they are trying to make nuclear bombs so what? We have thousands its kind of hypocritical of us to tell another nation "No you can't have them, but we can"

Tolwan

If you have a gun, is it hypocritical of you to tell a guy, fresh out of a mental institution who thinks the world wants to kill him, that he shouldnt be allowed to have a gun?


It's hypocritical to accuse him of having a gun, even while your buddy is standing right next to you saying that he checked and can verify he doesn't have one. What's that poor mentally challenged guy going to think?

I'm not talking about that at all. That's another convo alltogether. We're talking about the prospect of *Allowing* iran to have a nuke if it were indeed attempting to gain access to/acquire/build/etc nuclear weapons.


Well seeing as it isn't, if we're going by the current intelligence, that would be irrelevent. But, purely hypothetically, if they were, then it would be somewhat of a dubious issue. Unless we had full UN consent and a legitimate reason for concern, there would be nothing we could do about it. Seeing as Iran knows our stances, allegiances and capibilities, I doubt that they would be stupid enough to attempt such a thing in the first place.
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[QUOTE="SunofVich"][QUOTE="Tolwan"][QUOTE="SunofVich"]

I very highly doubt they are trying to make nuclear weapons. But even if they are its not like they would actually use them. They are too proud of there Persian ancestry and culture to end it all from us nuking them after they nuke Israel.

Also if they are trying to make nuclear bombs so what? We have thousands its kind of hypocritical of us to tell another nation "No you can't have them, but we can"

Tolwan

If you have a gun, is it hypocritical of you to tell a guy, fresh out of a mental institution who thinks the world wants to kill him, that he shouldnt be allowed to have a gun?

Everyone should have a gun, even the guy fresh out of a mental institution, why you might ask? Well he is out right? So nothing is wrong with him. But just on the off chance that the treatment did not go over so well if he was to try to kill someone everyone around would also have guns and they would be inclined to shoot him dead.

Same with nukes. If everyone has them and one decides to use them everyone else is going to use them on that one. Its called deterant

While you are right, before he is taken out, he will most likely kill ATLEAST 1 person before people shoot him. And that's if he doesnt decide to go after the other people who dont have guns, then you have to wait for other people that do have guns to come in and help.

Think about it, if other people are holding guns, is that going to stop a desperate wacko from using his? No different than iran. He despises Israel, do you want to trust that Everyone else will act as a detterant to those who are potentially suicidal?

Right but this is just one mentally unstable person not a country.

Pakistan has nukes and they have yet to try a use them on India, which is there top rival. Also India has them and they have yet to use them on Pakistan.

The Iranian leader may be a little crazy but he is not stupid. He is not about to risk having his country glow in the dark from a response to him nuking Israel or the US.

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#23 SunofVich
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Also if you think the insurgency in Iraq is bad now. You know how terrible it would be in Iraq if we were to topple the government. Nearly the entire populous would be against us. Most of them may not like the current government but they would not just sit back and let foreigners invade there country.

And if we were to launch airstrikes on nuclear production facilities in Iran, such as Natanz, I am sure Iran would send its army into Iraq and attack our soldiers there. Iran is a superpower in the middle east. And a war with them would most certainly mean a draft.

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Also if you think the insurgency in Iraq is bad now. You know how terrible it would be in Iran if we were to topple the government. Nearly the entire populous would be against us. Most of them may not like the current government but they would not just sit back and let foreigners invade there country.

And if we were to launch airstrikes on nuclear production facilities in Iran, such as Natanz, I am sure Iran would send its army into Iraq and attack our soldiers there. Iran is a superpower in the middle east. And a war with them would most certainly mean a draft.

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I hope so
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You can't stop whats meant to happen. It's in the plan.
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Once Iran starts attracting customers to their oil contracts, which is nothing but a bid to undercut the current oil dealers in Euros, will we see us invading yet another country in the name of security from yet some more supposed WMDs at the hands of Iran

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let them have nukes if they nuke are allies or us we will nuke there country to a giant sheet of glass

and that will be the end of isreal well just cut the entire country off from asia and make it float out into sea LOL

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[QUOTE="Tolwan"]

Every time a post is made meant to incite hatred against conservatives, an angel loses his wings, god kills a kitten, and i eat a piece of bacon. Just think about that for a while...

bman784


Hold the bacon! All conservatives think that Iran is an evil nuclear power that must be bombed:? I didn't get that memo.

yay stereotyping ftl!

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[QUOTE="Norg"]

let them have nukes if they nuke are allies or us we will nuke there country to a giant sheet of glass

and that will be the end of isreal well just cut the entire country off from asia and make it float out into sea LOL

Truth_Seekr

That's kinda the problem with the American attitude. I understand we all want to make sure certain powers/technologies etc dont make it into certain countries hands, but who the hell are we to dictate who can and who can't hold these advancements in technology?

We're the western world. A nuclear capabable Iran can become a possible threat in the long-run...therefore we can not allow them to gain such a technological advancement. It' as simple as that.

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#33 Norg
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[QUOTE="Norg"]

let them have nukes if they nuke are allies or us we will nuke there country to a giant sheet of glass

and that will be the end of isreal well just cut the entire country off from asia and make it float out into sea LOL

Truth_Seekr

That's kinda the problem with the American attitude. I understand we all want to make sure certain powers/technologies etc dont make it into certain countries hands, but who the hell are we to dictate who can and who can't hold these advancements in technology?

because Iran said they wanted to destory Isreal we cant let that happen why does iran want to nuke isreal that just isnt nice

We have nukes but we will never use them becasue we are a nice country LOL

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#34 rimnet00
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[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="Norg"]

let them have nukes if they nuke are allies or us we will nuke there country to a giant sheet of glass

and that will be the end of isreal well just cut the entire country off from asia and make it float out into sea LOL

Norg

That's kinda the problem with the American attitude. I understand we all want to make sure certain powers/technologies etc dont make it into certain countries hands, but who the hell are we to dictate who can and who can't hold these advancements in technology?

because Iran said they wanted to destory Isreal we cant let that happen why does iran want to nuke isreal that just isnt nice

We have nukes but we will never use them becasue we are a nice country LOL

lmao

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[QUOTE="Norg"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="Norg"]

let them have nukes if they nuke are allies or us we will nuke there country to a giant sheet of glass

and that will be the end of isreal well just cut the entire country off from asia and make it float out into sea LOL

rimnet00

That's kinda the problem with the American attitude. I understand we all want to make sure certain powers/technologies etc dont make it into certain countries hands, but who the hell are we to dictate who can and who can't hold these advancements in technology?

because Iran said they wanted to destory Isreal we cant let that happen why does iran want to nuke isreal that just isnt nice

We have nukes but we will never use them becasue we are a nice country LOL

lmao

All the muslim countries in Asia should destroy Isreal lol

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#36 LostProphetFLCL
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As an American citizen I hope to God we don't....

But if idiots keep supporting Mccain it is very possible we will be at war with Iran within a couple years which could probably trigger a World War 3....

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#37 Hellraiser3899
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Christ, if we really think Iraq is bad have fun in Iran... I'll be moving to Switzerland...
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#38 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Most likely not. But the choice is up to Iran.
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#39 newman12-18
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what i wanna know is why is america allowed nuclear weapons when we're the only country to use them on another country
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Why not? They are the World Police.
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#41 GUNpoint_
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I hope not, but, I do think that someone needs to tell Iran, that they cannot have nuclear weapons. And the only way thats going to happen, is if the U.S. begins to restart diplomacy, and become "friendly" to them again. (aka, take them off the "axis-of-evil")remmbermytitans


send Solid Snake.
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#42 faisal123456
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As an American citizen I hope to God we don't....

But if idiots keep supporting Mccain it is very possible we will be at war with Iran within a couple years which could probably trigger a World War 3....

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#43 LostProphetFLCL
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Why not? They are the World Police.foxhound_fox

The funny thing is as much as we stick our noses in other countries business and get ******* out because of it, we still get people crying for us to go meddle in their business (Darfur, Tibet,etc...)....

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#44 deactivated-57a12126af02c
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As an American citizen I hope to God we don't....

But if idiots keep supporting Mccain it is very possible we will be at war with Iran within a couple years which could probably trigger a World War 3....

LostProphetFLCL

What a shame. Why do you say that.

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#45 linkthewindow
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No, the voters arn't stupid enough to vote for a President that will invade Iran, and the armed forces are stretched enough already. So... no.
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The funny thing is as much as we stick our noses in other countries business and get ******* out because of it, we still get people crying for us to go meddle in their business (Darfur, Tibet,etc...)....LostProphetFLCL

I really wish the UN would step up and be the World Police... problem is the Security Counsel would get in the way.
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#47 LostProphetFLCL
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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

As an American citizen I hope to God we don't....

But if idiots keep supporting Mccain it is very possible we will be at war with Iran within a couple years which could probably trigger a World War 3....

kool-aids

What a shame. Why do you say that.

Because World War 3 could kinda.......you know.....LEAD TO THE DESTRUCTION OF THE MAJORITY OF THE HUMAN RACE!!!

Seeing as we have nukes now, that much insanity could cause lots of nukes flying about which would be catastrophic.....

Mccain is a war-monger and going to war with Iran is definitely his dumbest little idea. He has said comments that make me feel as he WANTS to go to war already, and thing is that is the worst way to handle the situation. Diplomacy is the ONLY way that the Iran issue should be handled.

On top of that, he has absolutely no knowlege of economics (I believe he has actually ADMITTED this) and seeing as we are heading towards a recession, a president with zero economic knowledge is a pretty ****** idea.....

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#48 LostProphetFLCL
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No, the voters arn't stupid enough to vote for a President that will invade Iran, and the armed forces are stretched enough already. So... no.linkthewindow

Have you paid attention to the fact that Mccain won the republican nomination by a landslide?

Yes, people really are that stupid. It is pathetic....

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]The funny thing is as much as we stick our noses in other countries business and get ******* out because of it, we still get people crying for us to go meddle in their business (Darfur, Tibet,etc...)....foxhound_fox

I really wish the UN would step up and be the World Police... problem is the Security Counsel would get in the way.

Yeah, the UN has absolutely no balls whatsoever.

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If the UN can't police the world then the US will

GET READY TO DIE!!!

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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]The funny thing is as much as we stick our noses in other countries business and get ******* out because of it, we still get people crying for us to go meddle in their business (Darfur, Tibet,etc...)....foxhound_fox

I really wish the UN would step up and be the World Police... problem is the Security Counsel would get in the way.

The UN also has to follow sovereignty laws they just cant go around toppling governments left and right. THey lack funds and nations like Russia and China usually stalemate anything the U.S. and its allies want done.