A lot of people consider them to be in the same class as the Beatles or even Bach. What do you think? What did they mean to music?
Check out this rare video of one of their best performances - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN75im_us4k
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A lot of people consider them to be in the same class as the Beatles or even Bach. What do you think? What did they mean to music?
Store24
I think that a lot of people overrate Nirvana. :P
I mean, that was kind of the whole point of the matter - Kurt never wanted to be a "guitar hero", so to speak. So I can respect that. Kind of makes it ironic how much people tend to deify him now, though...
[QUOTE="Store24"]
A lot of people consider them to be in the same class as the Beatles or even Bach. What do you think? What did they mean to music?
I think that a lot of people overrate Nirvana. :P
I mean, that was kind of the whole point of the matter - Kurt never wanted to be a "guitar hero", so to speak. So I can respect that. Kind of makes it ironic how much people tend to deify him now, though...
But did any of you guys look at that video?[QUOTE="GabuEx"][QUOTE="Store24"]
A lot of people consider them to be in the same class as the Beatles or even Bach. What do you think? What did they mean to music?
Store24
I think that a lot of people overrate Nirvana. :P
I mean, that was kind of the whole point of the matter - Kurt never wanted to be a "guitar hero", so to speak. So I can respect that. Kind of makes it ironic how much people tend to deify him now, though...
But did any of you guys look at that video?yes, and it wasnt funny.
Dunno. Overall i think they are a tad bit overrated. But it would be nice to see another Nirvana-ish band. Especialy if they throw out something as great as Smells like teen Spirit
And that video is awsome lol :D
Guy that made that has got some skill. Solo part is major roflcopter
Bach
seriously dude,WTF? He/she does say "a lot of people", it does not necessarily reflect his/her opinion on the subject at hand If people actually thinks that then it makes me feel sad.Eventually. There always seems to be a band that ushers in some kind of change when least expected. Maybe it'll take longer than we hope since radio is not a force anymore.
[QUOTE="Store24"]
A lot of people consider them to be in the same class as the Beatles or even Bach. What do you think? What did they mean to music?
GabuEx
I think that a lot of people overrate Nirvana. :P
I mean, that was kind of the whole point of the matter - Kurt never wanted to be a "guitar hero", so to speak. So I can respect that. Kind of makes it ironic how much people tend to deify him now, though...
A lot of people overrate The Beatles as well. They both had their time and place for their music. Nothing more....nothing less.Thanx for pointing that out. I would have disregarded the vid like the OP and others thus missing on an awesome video : OI think the OP Started this thread so people would watch the awesome video..yet no one did...
MarkyyR
Of course, there will be room for another Grunge revival. It probably already exists in some form or another. It may not take the mainstream in the same way however. Nirvana happened to release the right album at the right time. It was a spring board to the others, but they were almost all on the cusp of breaking the mainstream, hence the short lived popularity of the genre.
Much of the reason for being short lived was the bands themselves didn't want to be marketed as is common business practice. Which gets them props from me. That is why the uninteresting post grunge genre was created. It's radio/business friendly. Unfortunately. Notice post grunge bands are not creative and tend to be formulaic.Of course, there will be room for another Grunge revival. It probably already exists in some form or another. It may not take the mainstream in the same way however. Nirvana happened to release the right album at the right time. It was a spring board to the others, but they were almost all on the cusp of breaking the mainstream, hence the short lived popularity of the genre.
Samwel_X
[QUOTE="GabuEx"][QUOTE="Store24"]
A lot of people consider them to be in the same class as the Beatles or even Bach. What do you think? What did they mean to music?
LJS9502_basic
I think that a lot of people overrate Nirvana. :P
I mean, that was kind of the whole point of the matter - Kurt never wanted to be a "guitar hero", so to speak. So I can respect that. Kind of makes it ironic how much people tend to deify him now, though...
A lot of people overrate The Beatles as well. They both had their time and place for their music. Nothing more....nothing less. The Beatles were very influential..Nirvana wasn't. There were "better" bands with a simliar sound. Anyways...Who knows? Linkin Park was similar to Nirvana back in 2000. Remember the Nu-Metal phase?If you are using influence then your statement about Nirvana is incorrect. They did influence other bands. They also cracked the grunge genre to the mainstream which helped other grunge bands get notice. Some of which were very good bands. In fact, within the next decade we should see more bands that were influenced by grunge (and thus Nirvana in some cases) coming to notice. Right now we have the post punk 80's revival. The next generation will soon step up.The Beatles were very influential..Nirvana wasn't. There were "better" bands with a simliar sound. Anyways...Who knows? Linkin Park was similar to Nirvana back in 2000. Remember the Nu-Metal phase?
Jamiemydearx3
If you are using influence then your statement about Nirvana is incorrect. They did influence other bands. They also cracked the grunge genre to the mainstream which helped other grunge bands get notice. Some of which were very good bands. In fact, within the next decade we should see more bands that were influenced by grunge (and thus Nirvana in some cases) coming to notice. Right now we have the post punk 80's revival. The next generation will soon step up. Nirvana did make grunge as mainstream as it was..But grunge was still semi-popular back in the day. There were 'grunge' bands getting signed into the mainstream world before Nirvana went mainstream.[QUOTE="Jamiemydearx3"]
The Beatles were very influential..Nirvana wasn't. There were "better" bands with a simliar sound. Anyways...Who knows? Linkin Park was similar to Nirvana back in 2000. Remember the Nu-Metal phase?
LJS9502_basic
If you are using influence then your statement about Nirvana is incorrect. They did influence other bands. They also cracked the grunge genre to the mainstream which helped other grunge bands get notice. Some of which were very good bands. In fact, within the next decade we should see more bands that were influenced by grunge (and thus Nirvana in some cases) coming to notice. Right now we have the post punk 80's revival. The next generation will soon step up. Nirvana did make grunge as mainstream as it was..But grunge was still semi-popular back in the day. There were 'grunge' bands getting signed into the mainstream world before Nirvana went mainstream.And pop bands existed before The Beatles. Why praise one band and demonize the other?[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]
[QUOTE="Jamiemydearx3"]
The Beatles were very influential..Nirvana wasn't. There were "better" bands with a simliar sound. Anyways...Who knows? Linkin Park was similar to Nirvana back in 2000. Remember the Nu-Metal phase?
Jamiemydearx3
Of course, there will be room for another Grunge revival. It probably already exists in some form or another. It may not take the mainstream in the same way however. Nirvana happened to release the right album at the right time. It was a spring board to the others, but they were almost all on the cusp of breaking the mainstream, hence the short lived popularity of the genre.
Much of the reason for being short lived was the bands themselves didn't want to be marketed as is common business practice. Which gets them props from me. That is why the uninteresting post grunge genre was created. It's radio/business friendly. Unfortunately. Notice post grunge bands are not creative and tend to be formulaic.I believe that started once Bush hit the airwaves.[QUOTE="Store24"]
A lot of people consider them to be in the same class as the Beatles or even Bach. What do you think? What did they mean to music?
GabuEx
I think that a lot of people overrate Nirvana. :P
I mean, that was kind of the whole point of the matter - Kurt never wanted to be a "guitar hero", so to speak. So I can respect that. Kind of makes it ironic how much people tend to deify him now, though...
Kurt also wasn't around long enough to change his mind. ;)As much as I like Nirvana I can't put them in a class like The Beatles, they just don't have the body of work The Beatles do. Accordingly the same time I think comparing them is a bit unfair.
Of course, there will be room for another Grunge revival. It probably already exists in some form or another. It may not take the mainstream in the same way however. Nirvana happened to release the right album at the right time. It was a spring board to the others, but they were almost all on the cusp of breaking the mainstream, hence the short lived popularity of the genre.
Much of the reason for being short lived was the bands themselves didn't want to be marketed as is common business practice. Which gets them props from me. That is why the uninteresting post grunge genre was created. It's radio/business friendly. Unfortunately. Notice post grunge bands are not creative and tend to be formulaic.I believe that started once Bush hit the airwaves.Ah the UK's grunge band.....[QUOTE="Travo_basic"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Much of the reason for being short lived was the bands themselves didn't want to be marketed as is common business practice. Which gets them props from me. That is why the uninteresting post grunge genre was created. It's radio/business friendly. Unfortunately. Notice post grunge bands are not creative and tend to be formulaic.LJS9502_basicI believe that started once Bush hit the airwaves.Ah the UK's grunge band.....And one of the blandest "grunge" bands ever.
Seriously? Neither of those bands have had anywhere near the impact on the music industry that Nirvana did, if any at all.2004's Greenday?
2001's Blink 182?
IMO Nirvana wasn't that big of a deal... lol
Jamiemydearx3
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Travo_basic"]I believe that started once Bush hit the airwaves.Travo_basicAh the UK's grunge band.....And one of the blandest "grunge" bands ever. Not a favorite of mine at all. Least the Brit pop made up for it.:P
[QUOTE="Jamiemydearx3"]Seriously? Neither of those bands have had anywhere near the impact on the music industry that Nirvana did, if any at all. They had much bigger impacts, actually... you just might view them as negative...2004's Greenday?
2001's Blink 182?
IMO Nirvana wasn't that big of a deal... lol
Silent-Hal
A lot of people like to blown anything they identify with, completely out of proportion. They meant a lot to music, hence the documentaries revolving how they impacted music I think they gave more to music than they took, so i consider nirvana an overall positive contribution to modern musicBiancaDK
You have frengers In your signature :shock:
I love you :oops:
On topic, I don't think we'll be seeing bands like Nirvana hit it big again, the industry ain't what it use to be.
[QUOTE="Jamiemydearx3"]Nirvana did make grunge as mainstream as it was..But grunge was still semi-popular back in the day. There were 'grunge' bands getting signed into the mainstream world before Nirvana went mainstream.And pop bands existed before The Beatles. Why praise one band and demonize the other? I like Nirvana, but only because of nostalgia. The Beatles had four talented band members, and everyone of them showed it. Especially after they broke up, while Nirvana was an overrated-mediocre band that got lucky. Dave continued to prove Nirvana was mediocre when he got the band Foo Fighters together. Where as when The Beatles broke up, each member created atleast one top notch album. You compared Nirvana to The Beatles..Being overrated. I can see where Nirvana being overrated comes from, but if someone thinks The Beatle's are overrated..They must not have heard any of their music past 1966, or are just biased in some shape. BUT that's just my opinion.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]If you are using influence then your statement about Nirvana is incorrect. They did influence other bands. They also cracked the grunge genre to the mainstream which helped other grunge bands get notice. Some of which were very good bands. In fact, within the next decade we should see more bands that were influenced by grunge (and thus Nirvana in some cases) coming to notice. Right now we have the post punk 80's revival. The next generation will soon step up.
LJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="Travo_basic"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Ah the UK's grunge band.....LJS9502_basicAnd one of the blandest "grunge" bands ever. Not a favorite of mine at all. Least the Brit pop made up for it.:P Yeah, you're right.
[QUOTE="Jamiemydearx3"]Seriously? Neither of those bands have had anywhere near the impact on the music industry that Nirvana did, if any at all. How did you miss the pop-punk scene? It started off with Green Day in the 90s and is still seen today..With bands like Fall Out Boy, Panic At The Discoo, New Found Glory, good charlotte...So far it's outlasted the 90's grunge phase.2004's Greenday?
2001's Blink 182?
IMO Nirvana wasn't that big of a deal... lol
Silent-Hal
Well now you are going into the land of the subjective. What is good? I've always maintained The Beatles were better than the sum of their parts. Individually none of The Beatles would have made much impact on music. Conversely if they hadn't been teen idols they wouldn't have been as well known as they were. The Beatles were a good pop band with a creative producer. But I think it's time for the hype to die. However, when you have rock band and the press praising them they take on a legacy bigger than the band.I like Nirvana, but only because of nostalgia. The Beatles had four talented band members, and everyone of them showed it. Especially after they broke up, while Nirvana was an overrated-mediocre band that got lucky. Dave continued to prove Nirvana was mediocre when he got the band Foo Fighters together. Where as when The Beatles broke up, each member created atleast one top notch album. You compared Nirvana to The Beatles..Being overrated. I can see where Nirvana being overrated comes from, but if someone thinks The Beatle's are overrated..They must not have heard any of their music past 1966, or are just biased in some shape. BUT that's just my opinion.
Jamiemydearx3
Your last sentence seems be the bias. If someone doesn't agree with they are wrong. The Beatles cultivated the influences of their day to change their music. But they didn't invent the genre.
Don't get me wrong...I enjoy some Beatles music....I just don't think they deserve all the hype.
Well now you are going into the land of the subjective. What is good? I've always maintained The Beatles were better than the sum of their parts. Individually none of The Beatles would have made much impact on music. Conversely if they hadn't been teen idols they wouldn't have been as well known as they were. The Beatles were a good pop band with a creative producer. But I think it's time for the hype to die. However, when you have rock band and the press praising them they take on a legacy bigger than the band.[QUOTE="Jamiemydearx3"]
I like Nirvana, but only because of nostalgia. The Beatles had four talented band members, and everyone of them showed it. Especially after they broke up, while Nirvana was an overrated-mediocre band that got lucky. Dave continued to prove Nirvana was mediocre when he got the band Foo Fighters together. Where as when The Beatles broke up, each member created atleast one top notch album. You compared Nirvana to The Beatles..Being overrated. I can see where Nirvana being overrated comes from, but if someone thinks The Beatle's are overrated..They must not have heard any of their music past 1966, or are just biased in some shape. BUT that's just my opinion.
LJS9502_basic
Your last sentence seems be the bias. If someone doesn't agree with they are wrong. The Beatles cultivated the influences of their day to change their music. But they didn't invent the genre.
Don't get me wrong...I enjoy some Beatles music....I just don't think they deserve all the hype.
I stated it's my opinion, how was I being subjective or biased?Bach?A lot of people consider them to be in the same class as the Beatles or even Bach. What do you think? What did they mean to music?
Check out this rare video of one of their best performances - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN75im_us4k
Store24
Now, now, lets not get carried away....
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