[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Since it's a given that he's guilty, I wouldn't defend.Mr_Kowaski
its your job to defend though
But he's guilty. Thus, to get the best outcome, he shouldn't have a really good lawyer.This topic is locked from further discussion.
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Since it's a given that he's guilty, I wouldn't defend.Mr_Kowaski
its your job to defend though
But he's guilty. Thus, to get the best outcome, he shouldn't have a really good lawyer.[QUOTE="Mr_Kowaski"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Since it's a given that he's guilty, I wouldn't defend.Funky_Llama
its your job to defend though
But he's guilty. Thus, to get the best outcome, he shouldn't have a really good lawyer.Well if i was a defence lawyer person, i'd defend anyone, but im ight not defend as well, for people i knew were quilty
[QUOTE="markop2003"]i'ld defend the celebrity, i'ld do more goood in the future that way and hopefully oout way the evil i'ld already doneFunky_LlamaBut you could do that good without doing the evil, so it's still on your hands.
no i couldn'tas i wouldn't be rated as highly as a lawyer
everyone deserves a defense in court, maybe there's evidence to suggest they didn't kill the kids and kittens. It's not for me to decide but the jury or judge.
Now, the fervor and emotional stake I would put in the case for defending the person would be a different story.
I won't defend, quit being a bloody lawyer and get a decent job.Ok, this is the situation. You just got out of lawyers college/university (w/e you want to call it). You get a job at a company with many other lawyers and your first job defend a celebraty that had murdered 2 children and 5 kittens. Out of this deal the celebraty will give you five-hundred thousand dollars if you win not to mention you will be one of the best lawyers in America. Basically if you win in court you're set for life. If you do not defend the celebraty your company fires you and you end up jobless for the rest of your life.
remeber you just got out of schooling and you need money badly. It's this or nothing.
What do you do?
Edit: I know this is not an accurate representation of how a lawyer gets into a world class case like this. I just want to know if it is against your morals or not.
psn_Jaimzl
But you could do that good without doing the evil, so it's still on your hands.[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="markop2003"]i'ld defend the celebrity, i'ld do more goood in the future that way and hopefully oout way the evil i'ld already donemarkop2003
no i couldn'tas i wouldn't be rated as highly as a lawyer
But surely that's overridden by the evil of getting a murderer off the hook.defend a celebraty that had murdered 2 children and 5 kittens. psn_JaimzlOh noes! Why won't anybody think of the kitties :(
[QUOTE="GabuEx"]Well, I could always take his case and then not win.JandurinThat's illegal D: Isn't it?But not immoral in this case. :P
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]Well, I could always take his case and then not win.Funky_LlamaThat's illegal D: Isn't it?But not immoral in this case. :P Unethical, though. hah. We've described a moral unethical illegal action. Go OT, GO.
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]Well, I could always take his case and then not win.JandurinThat's illegal D: Isn't it?But not immoral in this case. :P Unethical, though. hah. We've described a moral unethical illegal action. Go OT, GO.Not even unethical :evil:
Not even unethical :evil:Funky_LlamaIt's doing his job wrong on purpose. That's like the definition of :o
I will just have to prioritize, moreover if I refuse to defend him he will just hire another guy and might still win. In the end it will me me and my morals rotting in the pit.7guns
The same could be said about an offer concerning an assassination contract. That makes you a hitman if you accept the case, 7guns.
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Not even unethical :evil:JandurinIt's doing his job wrong on purpose. That's like the definition of :oSo is it unethical if a hitman deliberately does his job wrong? :o
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Not even unethical :evil:Funky_LlamaIt's doing his job wrong on purpose. That's like the definition of :oSo is it unethical if a hitman deliberately does his job wrong? :o Damn straight. But not illegal :o he took money for a job, and if he's gonna get cold feet, he should just quit right now :x Though I think you should of used a CIA assassin type, instead.
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Not even unethical :evil:JandurinIt's doing his job wrong on purpose. That's like the definition of :oSo is it unethical if a hitman deliberately does his job wrong? :o Damn straight. But not illegal :o he took money for a job, and if he's gonna get cold feet, he should just quit right now :x Though I think you should of used a CIA assassin type, instead.But illegality does not necessarily mean immorality. :P
But illegality does not necessarily mean immorality. :PFunky_Llamawell, i know. that was just an aside :P
[QUOTE="7guns"]I will just have to prioritize, moreover if I refuse to defend him he will just hire another guy and might still win. In the end it will me me and my morals rotting in the pit.vlin1108
The same could be said about an offer concerning an assassination contract. That makes you a hitman if you accept the case, 7guns.
What I meant is that nothing will cahnge if I reject the proposal. I will be the only one who suffers.
But that doesn't mean that I will agree to murder someone.
[QUOTE="vlin1108"][QUOTE="7guns"]I will just have to prioritize, moreover if I refuse to defend him he will just hire another guy and might still win. In the end it will me me and my morals rotting in the pit.7guns
The same could be said about an offer concerning an assassination contract. That makes you a hitman if you accept the case, 7guns.
What I meant is that nothing will cahnge if I reject the proposal. I will be the only one who suffers.
But that doesn't mean that I will agree to murder someone.
So you would suffer if you wouldn't be out killing someone? You have a taste for blood, and you cannot deny it.
[QUOTE="7guns"][QUOTE="vlin1108"][QUOTE="7guns"]I will just have to prioritize, moreover if I refuse to defend him he will just hire another guy and might still win. In the end it will me me and my morals rotting in the pit.vlin1108
The same could be said about an offer concerning an assassination contract. That makes you a hitman if you accept the case, 7guns.
What I meant is that nothing will cahnge if I reject the proposal. I will be the only one who suffers.
But that doesn't mean that I will agree to murder someone.
So you would suffer if you wouldn't be out killing someone? You have a taste for blood, and you cannot deny it.
Not fighting for justice at any cost and being a hitman are two different things.
That's why I could never be a lawyer. A judge, perhaps,but I'd be a hard-ass dealth penalty to everyone, kind of judge.DigitalExileSo you think you have the right to decide who should die and who shouldn't, would you do the same thing if you were the exocutioner.
I'd defend them no problem as long as I get payed.
Thats the problem I have with all the kids in my year level who want to be lawyers. They all think that they will prosecuting the bad guy, not defending them. And then they say "I just wont defend them". Yeah, good luck :roll:
freek666
This man speaks the truth.
If I took the time and trouble to be a defense attorney in the first place, then I'd probably be prepared to defend some scumbags. However, I have absolutely no intention of ever becoming a defense attorney.TheokhothMaybe you'd be like Phoenix Wright, whose clients, apparently by chance, are never ever guilty.
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]If I took the time and trouble to be a defense attorney in the first place, then I'd probably be prepared to defend some scumbags. However, I have absolutely no intention of ever becoming a defense attorney.Funky_LlamaMaybe you'd be like Phoenix Wright, whose clients, apparently by chance, are never ever guilty. That was what turned me off to that game. They were always innocent and you always had a way to prove it. LAME
Well, just because you're lawyer doesn't mean you're a defense attorney. So this is very very very very far off as far as hypothetical questions go.
Anyways, my answer is no. Because of the 5 kittens.
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]If I took the time and trouble to be a defense attorney in the first place, then I'd probably be prepared to defend some scumbags. However, I have absolutely no intention of ever becoming a defense attorney.JandurinMaybe you'd be like Phoenix Wright, whose clients, apparently by chance, are never ever guilty. That was what turned me off to that game. They were always innocent and you always had a way to prove it. LAMED: How could anyone be turned off from Phoenix Wright? Also, in [spoiler] Phoenix Wright 2, case 4 [/spoiler] your client is guilty.
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]your client is guilty. JandurinI only played the first. :PI imported the second from Japan and the third and fourth from the USA. I heart those games. ^__^
I would not have become a defense lawyer if I could not defend the undefensible.LJS9502_basicOr indeed the indefensible. :P
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I would not have become a defense lawyer if I could not defend the undefensible.Funky_LlamaOr indeed the indefensible. :PGrrr....I can make a typo once in awhile.:x
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I would not have become a defense lawyer if I could not defend the undefensible.LJS9502_basicOr indeed the indefensible. :PGrrr....I can make a typo once in awhile.:xD: I thought you were infallible! :cry:
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