Will You Give Mouth to Mouth to Another Man?

If you're going to give CPR, then you should be trained, and considering the certification expires every couple of years then you should be up to date on recent changes. CPR is not something to be taken lightly, you are literally compressing someone's rib cage and it is more than likely you will break a rib or two.

see above, just chest compressions works just as well as the previous CPR methods

In terms of CPR, rescue breaths aren't used because the time it takes to do them does not provide any benefit over simple chest compressions

You stated that rescue breaths are still useful in saving lives, in the context of CPR that just isn't true

'But anyway, with all the media coverage of that gay college player hoping to be drafted in the NFL, this topic came up.'

Hurrrrrrr

@OT it baffles me to no ends on how you can give a mouth to a mouth and then to another man. How does one remove a mouth from a face in the first place?

No, I would rather have a man die as a result of my sexual insecurity. [/sarcasm]

Of course I'd do it if someone's life depended on it.

I'm trained but no I would not. I wouldn't give it to an ugly/fat/old girl either though.

I only said the topic came up from that.

I would perform CPR on a man or a woman, I am CPR trained.

No, because mouth-to-mouth is an outdated CPR technique that does more harm than good.

I'd kiss a guy, though. And suck him off.

Honestly I could care less what sex the person is the answer is most likely no. Why herpes and aids/hiv are at epidemic levels. As for MS I would be hesitant to draft him because I would have to make sure he is in a "safe" workplace ie PC one. The locker room is one of the least PC places on the planet.

Only as an absolute last resort.

AED's and CPR compressions are far more effective (according to statistics of revival).

And if I didn't know the person, I doubt I'd do respirations for fear of contracting a communicable disease (with no access to a proper protection device).

I would just walk away.

male or female i don't care about anyone

No, because I don't know how to use rescue breath outside of CPR and would probably just get somebody killed.

Yes, but never ass to mouth.

That depends on whether one is a doctor or not and can make such an assessment.

Modern first-aid/CPR trains only to do compressions and/or use an AED (which is the only thing that has a high percentage of resuscitation). They show how to do respirations but encourage against them unless one has proper protection (mouth covers with one-way valves).

It's far more important to keep blood flowing to the brain than to bring oxygen into the blood (and if you respirate too much, from inexperience or over-eagerness, you can distend the stomach and do even more damage).

no.

because that's not how you do it anymore.

you just do accelerated chest compression and that is enough to get air into the person.

I don't know CPR so I can't perform it on anyone.

A number of factors that only a doctor or nurse can determine. Which is why they don't train regular people to be doctors and nurses in CPR/FA training.

When was the last time you took a first-aid course?

People usually aren't breathing because there heart is either in a state of arrhythmia or has stopped entirely. Keeping the brain alive is far more important than getting them to start breathing again. AED's are central to people surviving cardiac arrest (when emergency services can respond within 10 minutes). It has been shown that more than 50% more people survive when an AED is used in addition to regular CPR than CPR by itself.

Putting air into a person's lungs (and if you blow too hard or too much, their stomach) isn't going to get their heart beating again or circulate blood through their body. It's why the CPR system has been drastically changed over the past several years to diminish the use of respirations, in favour of compressions. Not only because of communicable diseases and possibly not having protection for the first-aider, but because air/oxygen aren't going to help save someone's life.

I was re-certified FA/CPR last year. When were you last certified?

My point was that as a first-aider, and not an EMS personnel or doctor/nurse, doing basic CPR and using an AED are all that are required, and in the few minutes it would take EMS to respond to an emergency call, if proper protection is not available, then respirations are not going to increase a person's chance for survival. The blood moving to the brain is the most important.

You are taking what I'm saying out of context and responding to that instead of my central point: Which is that respirations are not mandatory to a person surviving a cardiac arrest incident.

I am not trained in CPR but if it was life or death scenario with no paramedics present I would attempt it to save a life. I don't care what common ethics says or if I could be sued. Of course I would let professional paramedics deal with it if available

Following your line of thought is making my brain hurt. You are an exceedingly dull person to communicate with and I'm not sure why I bother responding to you anymore. You merely keep going down a near-circular mode of discussion that sees the constant reiteration of points, especially those largely unrelated to the original line of discussion.

This topic was about if someone was comfortable with giving someone of the same sex mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.

Somehow, you turned it into a discussion about the effectiveness of AED's and blood-oxygen levels.

Congrats.

Actually the chest compression portions of CPR are more important than the rescue breathing

well CPR is specifically for treating someone in cardiac arrest, so I'm not sure what other situations you would be using it in. And an AED is only for shocking someone whose art is out of rhythm

I don't know.

Yes, no question about it.

You can get sued if you do it given that the person does not recover a 100%?

The body, and brain in particular, still needs air. I don't remember the exact numbers, but the brain might go 3 minutes without oxygen before taking damage, while other parts of the body can go 30 minutes or so.

I'd only attempt it on people I loved and knew personally, I wouldn't risk AIDS from some random goof be it a man or woman... Yes you can get AIDS from saliva, I'm not blowing into some possible AIDS pit.

This is one of the most absurd questions on OT as of late.

Depends on whether or not your state has a good samaritan law. It's illegal to sue someone who was only trying to save your life, even if they hurt you in the process (for example, breaking someone's ribs while applying CPR).

The breathing isn't necessary, the chest compressions are needed for circulating the blood