Windows 8, yes or no?

Simple, do you think it will be worth it. I personally think it's an ipad with a windows 7 app, but that's just me. So, windows 8, yes or no?

do we even know what its features are?

Too soon.Solid_Tango

3 years is too soon?

I don't like the new look. It looks like a phone app.kweeni

[QUOTE="kweeni"]I don't like the new look. It looks like a phone app.TheShadowLord07

Only if you can play Xbox 360 games on it.

I still use Windows XP. IMO Windows XP will still be perfect for me for the next year or so.

Only if you can play Xbox 360 games on it.

LovePotionNo9

If it makes startup times sexier then yes. If not, I'll probably upgrade to it eventually anyway. It's not a huge leap, same drivers work, so no super broken system.JigglyWiggly_

If it makes startup times sexier then yes. If not, I'll probably upgrade to it eventually anyway. It's not a huge leap, same drivers work, so no super broken system.JigglyWiggly_

Only if you can play Xbox 360 games on it.

LovePotionNo9

Only if they start making Halo for pc.

It seems only every other release is worth it. I'll wait for Windows 9.

[QUOTE="Solid_Tango"]Too soon.SilverSignal

3 years is too soon?

we waited 8 for 7 and it was worth it for directx 11. And no, vista doesn't count.

[QUOTE="SilverSignal"]

[QUOTE="Solid_Tango"]Too soon.Flavorysoup

3 years is too soon?

we waited 8 for 7 and it was worth it for directx 11. And no, vista doesn't count.

[QUOTE="Flavorysoup"]

[QUOTE="SilverSignal"]

3 years is too soon?

SilverSignal

we waited 8 for 7 and it was worth it for directx 11. And no, vista doesn't count.

I am talking about a GOOD DECENT os, XP launched in 2001, 7 launched in 2009. Vista was a piece of s*** not worth the name of Operating System and does not count.

2009-2001=8

I once had vista.... it deleted all of my files one by one.. I went back to xp and ever since I have acted like vista never existed.

[QUOTE="SilverSignal"][QUOTE="Flavorysoup"]

we waited 8 for 7 and it was worth it for directx 11. And no, vista doesn't count.

Flavorysoup

I am talking about a GOOD DECENT os, XP launched in 2001, 7 launched in 2009. Vista was a piece of s*** not worth the name of Operating System and does not count.

2009-2001=8

I once had vista.... it deleted all of my files one by one.. I went back to xp and ever since I have acted like vista never existed.

Must have missed out on Windows ME then. Now that was crap and makes Vista look normal.

Back on topic though....downloading a dev preview of Windows 8 now. I'm figuring much hasn't changed under the hood or to the kernel so I doubt its going to be the next big thing.

[QUOTE="SilverSignal"][QUOTE="Flavorysoup"]

we waited 8 for 7 and it was worth it for directx 11. And no, vista doesn't count.

Flavorysoup

I am talking about a GOOD DECENT os, XP launched in 2001, 7 launched in 2009. Vista was a piece of s*** not worth the name of Operating System and does not count.

2009-2001=8

I once had vista.... it deleted all of my files one by one.. I went back to xp and ever since I have acted like vista never existed.

Well I hate to break it to you but your opinion isn't fact. Windows Vista is an operating system. That came out 5 years after XP. 7 came out 4 years after Vista. 8 is scheduled for late 2012.

[QUOTE="Flavorysoup"]

[QUOTE="SilverSignal"] Waited 8 years for Windows 7? What the hell are you talking about?SilverSignal

I am talking about a GOOD DECENT os, XP launched in 2001, 7 launched in 2009. Vista was a piece of s*** not worth the name of Operating System and does not count.

2009-2001=8

I once had vista.... it deleted all of my files one by one.. I went back to xp and ever since I have acted like vista never existed.

Well I hate to break it to you but your opinion isn't fact. Windows Vista is an operating system. That came out 5 years after XP. 7 came out 4 years after Vista. 8 is scheduled for late 2012.

I never said it was fact. I just hated windows vista, and it may be an operating sysem, but it is a poor one at best. Maybe I should have phrased it, I waited 8 yeard for a good os(vista was a mistake and a waste of money) so I'm willing to wait just as long for another one. I'm guessing windows9 will get something right.

I'm never using a Windows OS again.

Most likely yes. I'll wait till announce more features and it actually comes out. It has alot of potential though. The coolest one is the tablet/laptop combo. It's like having a laptop that you could remove the screen and use as a tablet (kinda like the Motorola Atrix phone, but better). Could you imagine being abe to customise or install anything from a PC onto a tablet. You would no longer have to depend of some app store. Aaah VLC on a tablet:). That would be great.

I never said it was fact. I just hated windows vista, and it may be an operating sysem, but it is a poor one at best. Maybe I should have phrased it, I waited 8 yeard for a good os(vista was a mistake and a waste of money) so I'm willing to wait just as long for another one. I'm guessing windows9 will get something right.

Flavorysoup

Vista is a prefectly fine OS. All of its issues were related to third party developers not getting their drivers stable enough. Windows 7 only appears so much better because the growings pains of the new drivers have all been ironed out, but otherwise Vista and Windows 7 are identical in respects to stability.

Vista had some issues that werent of MS's fault, and its been a perfectly fins OS for a few years.

You cant name me a single major issue with Vista that exists today.

Windows 7 and XP have actually been the first good OS from MS in a while. Not sure what this windows 8 will hold.

I've been using the developer build of Windows 8 for a few hours now. If you have a tablet like me (HP Touchsmart tm2t convertible tablet PC), then its vast improvement for various functions. Lots of very nice convenience features.

If you dont have a tablet PC, theres still lots of various nice things. Laptops will still benefit from a lot of little things. The biggest benefit will be to people who actually are not very good with computers. Windows Explorer has a ribbon much like the newer Office with the most commonly used features. Much better organization and structure.

For power users, theres not TOO many things added specifically for them, though the new task manager is very, very nice and its closer to a full fledged resource tool. Better ISO and VHD support is a nice convenience. Much nicer multimonitor support, too.

For my laptop? It'll be a day 1 buy for me. For my desktop? I'll probably still get it day one, but i can see myself holding off if i had to.

I'll be happy to answer any questions.

Why do people hate Vista so much? There was some good service packs for it that fixed some problems, and the most annoying features it had were fixable with a little bit of effort, some computer knowledge, and Google as your tool. Vista gets way more hate than it deserves, considering Windows 7 isn't even that much different from it.. it's basically just Vista 2.0. And I loved Vista's GUI as well. I understand it just didn't live up to the hype, but it was a pretty decent OS IMO.Messiahbolical-

for most people I don't know why they hate it, but for some I understand, like me and some of my friends. Most of the problems are miniscule, but some of the problems like mine would delete your files at random points in time, and at one point it wouldn't let me log in, but that only lasted about an hour. It was a buggy, but only deserves true hate from people who have experienced it at its worst. I admit I am a bit hash on it, but I'm just expresing my felings toward it. sorry about hating on it :P

I've been using the developer build of Windows 8 for a few hours now. If you have a tablet like me (HP Touchsmart tm2t convertible tablet PC), then its vast improvement for various functions. Lots of very nice convenience features.

If you dont have a tablet PC, theres still lots of various nice things. Laptops will still benefit from a lot of little things. The biggest benefit will be to people who actually are not very good with computers. Windows Explorer has a ribbon much like the newer Office with the most commonly used features. Much better organization and structure.

For power users, theres not TOO many things added specifically for them, though the new task manager is very, very nice and its closer to a full fledged resource tool. Better ISO and VHD support is a nice convenience. Much nicer multimonitor support, too.

For my laptop? It'll be a day 1 buy for me. For my desktop? I'll probably still get it day one, but i can see myself holding off if i had to.

I'll be happy to answer any questions.

XaosII

I think that microsoft is aiming for tablets on this os. Not entirely, but almost. When I watched a 20-30 minute video of they showing the features at a conference, they only showed it on a desktop for about 20 secconds and then went back to the tablet. sad, I bet it wil be a really great tablet os, but to me it just looks like an ipad with a windows 7 app :P

A question: Is the startup time greatly increased like they said? Or was it just them smacking in insane hardware for that?

I'm never using a Windows OS again.theone86

we are testing it in our environment... well we will be by the end of the day.

[QUOTE="theone86"]I'm never using a Windows OS again.Hexagon_777

I think that microsoft is aiming for tablets on this os. Not entirely, but almost. When I watched a 20-30 minute video of they showing the features at a conference, they only showed it on a desktop for about 20 secconds and then went back to the tablet. sad, I bet it wil be a really great tablet os, but to me it just looks like an ipad with a windows 7 app :P

A question: Is the startup time greatly increased like they said? Or was it just them smacking in insane hardware for that?

Flavorysoup

They arent aiming for tablets. Thats a fallacy. It happens to have really good tablet support, but its still Windows 7 with improvements. I can perfectly understand why they didnt show much of it on a desktop. Theres not a significant amount of "wow!" changes. Anything they could show on the desktop looks lacklusster to the tablet/touch stuff.

Shutdown and startup times are notably faster. It takes about 10 seconds to the desktop. This is using a 500 GB 5200 RPM laptop hard drive on my Touchsmart tm2t. I have a 64 GB SSD holding my actual Windows 7 installation. I cna easily see it being 4 or so seconds to my desktop on an SSD.

Shutdown times are a bit quicker, but i didnt actually measure it. I never cared about shut down times, especially since i shut down after i done with my computer and could care less if it takes 2 seconds or 2 minutes. Its also highly dependant on how much stuff you have open at the the time. Time to hibernate and time out of hibernation are several seconds shorter each. Not quite as quick as sleep, of course, but you could fool someone. About 6 seconds to hibernate and 8 from hibernate.

[QUOTE="Flavorysoup"]

I think that microsoft is aiming for tablets on this os. Not entirely, but almost. When I watched a 20-30 minute video of they showing the features at a conference, they only showed it on a desktop for about 20 secconds and then went back to the tablet. sad, I bet it wil be a really great tablet os, but to me it just looks like an ipad with a windows 7 app :P

A question: Is the startup time greatly increased like they said? Or was it just them smacking in insane hardware for that?

XaosII

They arent aiming for tablets. Thats a fallacy. It happens to have really good tablet support, but its still Windows 7 with improvements. I can perfectly understand why they didnt show much of it on a desktop. Theres not a significant amount of "wow!" changes. Anything they could show on the desktop looks lacklusster to the tablet/touch stuff.

Shutdown and startup times are notably faster. It takes about 10 seconds to the desktop. This is using a 500 GB 5200 RPM laptop hard drive on my Touchsmart tm2t. I have a 64 GB SSD holding my actual Windows 7 installation. I cna easily see it being 4 or so seconds to my desktop on an SSD.

Shutdown times are a bit quicker, but i didnt actually measure it. I never cared about shut down times, especially since i shut down after i done with my computer and could care less if it takes 2 seconds or 2 minutes. Its also highly dependant on how much stuff you have open at the the time. Time to hibernate and time out of hibernation are several seconds shorter each. Not quite as quick as sleep, of course, but you could fool someone. About 6 seconds to hibernate and 8 from hibernate.

10 seconds wow, thats a big improvement.

[QUOTE="Flavorysoup"]

I think that microsoft is aiming for tablets on this os. Not entirely, but almost. When I watched a 20-30 minute video of they showing the features at a conference, they only showed it on a desktop for about 20 secconds and then went back to the tablet. sad, I bet it wil be a really great tablet os, but to me it just looks like an ipad with a windows 7 app :P

A question: Is the startup time greatly increased like they said? Or was it just them smacking in insane hardware for that?

XaosII

They arent aiming for tablets. Thats a fallacy. It happens to have really good tablet support, but its still Windows 7 with improvements. I can perfectly understand why they didnt show much of it on a desktop. Theres not a significant amount of "wow!" changes. Anything they could show on the desktop looks lacklusster to the tablet/touch stuff.

Shutdown and startup times are notably faster. It takes about 10 seconds to the desktop. This is using a 500 GB 5200 RPM laptop hard drive on my Touchsmart tm2t. I have a 64 GB SSD holding my actual Windows 7 installation. I cna easily see it being 4 or so seconds to my desktop on an SSD.

Shutdown times are a bit quicker, but i didnt actually measure it. I never cared about shut down times, especially since i shut down after i done with my computer and could care less if it takes 2 seconds or 2 minutes. Its also highly dependant on how much stuff you have open at the the time. Time to hibernate and time out of hibernation are several seconds shorter each. Not quite as quick as sleep, of course, but you could fool someone. About 6 seconds to hibernate and 8 from hibernate.

Shouldn't have said aiming, more like leaning. There are tons of new features that are accessable and more usable with the tablet on it, for the desktop it's just not as "wow" as you said. For now I'm sticking with windows 7. The only part of windows 7 I would use anyway would be the desktop, I don't use internet explorer and I absolutly hate windows live stuff which they said they would be integrating more. Is it just me or does Microsoft and Apple just keep getting closer and closer....

Just giving a guess, I'm guessing it won't be an aweful OS, just probably won't get good sales. Just my guess, probably not gonna be as good as windows 7.

Shouldn't have said aiming, more like leaning. There are tons of new features that are accessable and more usable with the tablet on it, for the desktop it's just not as "wow" as you said. For now I'm sticking with windows 7. The only part of windows 7 I would use anyway would be the desktop, I don't use internet explorer and I absolutly hate windows live stuff which they said they would be integrating more. Is it just me or does Microsoft and Apple just keep getting closer and closer....

Just giving a guess, I'm guessing it won't be an aweful OS, just probably won't get good sales. Just my guess, probably not gonna be as good as windows 7.

Flavorysoup

It probably wont have big sales largely due to preconceived notions. Theres plenty of nice additions for pure desktop users. A lot of whats being shows is the tablet UI because its very nice and easy to show. Its a lot harder to show, for example, Windows 8's improvements to Hyper-V for virtualized desktops.... Its something most people dont even know what it does.

I don't get why they are designing 8 to be mainly a tablet OS yet it's also for desk/laptop.

I don't get why they are designing 8 to be mainly a tablet OS yet it's also for desk/laptop.

Pirate700

Nah. I stuck with XP until last year, I doubt I'll get Windows 8 for a while (if at all) :P

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't get why they are designing 8 to be mainly a tablet OS yet it's also for desk/laptop.

MushroomWig

[QUOTE="Flavorysoup"]

Shouldn't have said aiming, more like leaning. There are tons of new features that are accessable and more usable with the tablet on it, for the desktop it's just not as "wow" as you said. For now I'm sticking with windows 7. The only part of windows 7 I would use anyway would be the desktop, I don't use internet explorer and I absolutly hate windows live stuff which they said they would be integrating more. Is it just me or does Microsoft and Apple just keep getting closer and closer....

Just giving a guess, I'm guessing it won't be an aweful OS, just probably won't get good sales. Just my guess, probably not gonna be as good as windows 7.

XaosII

It probably wont have big sales largely due to preconceived notions. Theres plenty of nice additions for pure desktop users. A lot of whats being shows is the tablet UI because its very nice and easy to show. Its a lot harder to show, for example, Windows 8's improvements to Hyper-V for virtualized desktops.... Its something most people dont even know what it does.

could you post some of the features that the desktop gets? because of what's been shown to me I don't like it, the look makes the desktop version look like an illadapted ipad imo

Too soon.

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't get why they are designing 8 to be mainly a tablet OS yet it's also for desk/laptop.

Pirate700

/facepalm

They are adding things to make the tablet OS useful for a tablet. They are also adding in features useful for both dektop and tablet users. They arent taking away anything.