Without Religion.

Do you think today's world would be a better place without religion. Lets get a fair debate here, no Wikipedia, no scratching, and no eye-gouging.

Eh, probably not. the world is **** up with or without religion.

I don't think that religion is the problem. People are the problem.

I'm with -Chimera-, religion isn't the problem, it's some people who practice it. I would like to see a snapshot of a world without religion to see what it's like.btaylor2404

I don't think that religion is the problem. People are the problem.

-Chimera-

I don't think that religion is the problem. People are the problem.

-Chimera-

We wouldn't have the Westboro Baptist Church.AAllxxjjnn

Religion is supposed to be about love, acceptance, and peace. Sadly, this is not what you see in many of todays religions. Instead its all about proving each other wrong and killing the infidel.

If religion weren't the culprit...people would find something else that they have differing opinions about and hate each other for that reason instead.

Religion is only a big deal today because it is just the oldest opinion that makes people kill due to differing points of view.

People always look for an excuse to kill each other. Religion is just easy to manipulate for that cause, so it's the most abused. Without religion, they'd simply find other reasons.cd_rom

No, humanity needs religion.domatron23

Personal religion? No. Institutionalized religion? Yes.

I'm with -Chimera-, religion isn't the problem, it's some people who practice it. I would like to see a snapshot of a world without religion to see what it's like.btaylor2404

[QUOTE="domatron23"]No, humanity needs religion.BucketsOfSpunk

Either way it's nothing but a shot in the dark. I have very little faith in modern society as is, but I think that taking away their religion would result in mass hysteria. That really disgusts me as a whole.

[QUOTE="BucketsOfSpunk"][QUOTE="domatron23"]No, humanity needs religion.Schnauzerz

[QUOTE="Schnauzerz"][QUOTE="BucketsOfSpunk"] Humanity needs guidance from a pure source, not from tales of fantasy peddled as the truth.BucketsOfSpunk

[QUOTE="domatron23"]No, humanity needs religion.BucketsOfSpunk

Mmm, I'd love to hear what "pure source" you're referring to.

[QUOTE="BucketsOfSpunk"][QUOTE="domatron23"]No, humanity needs religion.Dutch_Mix

Mmm, I'd love to hear what "pure source" you're referring to.

No. I think that Religion, gives a lot of people solace and hope.rjxtian

No. I think that Religion, gives a lot of people solace and hope.rjxtian

Hope for what?

If it's hope for something like to live eternally then I don't want this "hope" because I don't want to live eternally. It's the worse punishment that can be inflicted on me. But if you mean "hope" as hope of discovering the ultimate truth, knowledge or reality then there is hope in discovering the ultimate truth or the ultimate knowledge.

Without religion (as in it never existed) I believe the technology we would have today would be ridiculously advanced. ManifestoJoe

It'll be like removing my sig :x

Without religion (as in it never existed) I believe the technology we would have today would be ridiculously advanced. ManifestoJoe

I can't imagine a world without thetans and my precious xenu.

It wouldn't be different at all. People would be fighting over which version of God's absence was correct, or which areligious philosophical perspective was more compatible with the human condition, etc. etc. It would be the exact same arguments over slightly different issues. Haven't you seen the South Park where Cartman freezes himself to get the Nintendo Wii quicker?

As much as i would love to say the world would be a better place without religion. It would not be. There would still be the same amount of crime, the same amount of killing. Human nature is human nature, however belief is also human nature.

[QUOTE="rjxtian"]No. I think that Religion, gives a lot of people solace and hope.BucketsOfSpunk

Clearly you're unfamiliar with the pragmatist tradition, a widely accepted field in modern philosophy. Pragmatism states that humans should adopt those beliefs, hopes, and faiths that allow them to cope and continue living a life that they deem to be meaningful. What would "real" hope be good for? The problem with your argument is that, without religion or some idea of an afterlife, there is no substantive hope at all; thus, you cannot differentiate between "false" hope and "real" hope because neither exist. "Hope" cannot be labeled as "false" or "well-founded"; it is simply existant or non-existant. Much like a person's musical preference, hope is completely subjective. The object of the hope is irrelevant; you can still hope for something if it is unlikely or even impossible- you as an individual can strive to reach the object of your hope, and that will allow you to live a fulfilling life. Sure, it's impossible for everyone in the world to accept Jesus and go to heaven, because some simply don't believe as you don't, but those that do are able to live a fulfilling life of love and kindness among one another as a result of the hope that someday the rest of the world will follow Jesus' example in the Bible. And you know what? I don't believe in God, but i don't think it's a weakness. Love and kindness make the world a better place, even if the Christian hope is "false," as you call it. Leave them alone. By being civil, you might just contribute to a world of peace understanding also. Before I finish I would note that, because you hope and wish Christianity would be eradicated, and that is impossible, you hold a "false hope" according to your own logic.

a couple pegs better.

[QUOTE="btaylor2404"]I'm with -Chimera-, religion isn't the problem, it's some people who practice it. I would like to see a snapshot of a world without religion to see what it's like.Schnauzerz

[QUOTE="BucketsOfSpunk"][QUOTE="rjxtian"]No. I think that Religion, gives a lot of people solace and hope.its_me_

[QUOTE="Schnauzerz"][QUOTE="BucketsOfSpunk"] Humanity needs guidance from a pure source, not from tales of fantasy peddled as the truth.BucketsOfSpunk