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[QUOTE="Mercenary848"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]if you even wanna call it that. such senseless slaughter towards women. i mean what the hell? cutting off a poor girl's fingers then slicing her spine? and it was some stupid fat australian guy too. i wanted to get inside the TV and beat his face until my fists got more swollen then his face and blood seeped from every hole in his face. garbage movie that only goes for shock factor. sure, other movies have violence towards women, but this crap took it to another level. theres always some form of revenge at the end during these types of movies, but in this one..
spoiler
the $hole lives.
Def_Jef88
Even better spoiler its not real, but don't worry I get the same way i'm still mad Griggs died in COF:4
dude, who cars about griggs. GAZ DIED. And even worse than that (imo) Paul died!!!! :cry:now that i think about it, everyone dies except soap.... and who actually liked him? :|
I'm tired of cool black guys dieing JK sort of, but yeah also it sucked when Paul Died I thought he would get airlifted out.
[QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]are you defending Nazi's? sSubZerOo
Nice ad hominem, it just goes to show your losing the argument and trying to change the subject. Where in my posts was I defending the Germans in WW2? I was merely saying that you are ignorant to think that good always triumphs over evil (and for the most part that there is always a good and evil side, when most wars do not embody such things).
[QUOTE="GUNpoint_"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"]hey guess what, life doesnt have happy endings! Sorry to dissapoint you but soemtimes everyone does die, the bad guy doesnt have to die, why should he?PrinceofTHEATL
Nazi's, anyone?
But just becuase Good > Evil, doesn't mean that that's the only reason we won.If you guys seriously think we won WW2 because the Nazi's were evil and the Allies were good, I suggest you read some history.. Because that played little role in war strategy, equipement, attrition, luck etc etc.
The Germans believed they were the good too they also had spirit equal to that of the Americans and the Brits yet they lost
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]are you defending Nazi's? GUNpoint_
Nice ad hominem, it just goes to show your losing the argument and trying to change the subject. Where in my posts was I defending the Germans in WW2? I was merely saying that you are ignorant to think that good always triumphs over evil (and for the most part that there is always a good and evil side, when most wars do not embody such things).
[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Mercenary848"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]if you even wanna call it that. such senseless slaughter towards women. i mean what the hell? cutting off a poor girl's fingers then slicing her spine? and it was some stupid fat australian guy too. i wanted to get inside the TV and beat his face until my fists got more swollen then his face and blood seeped from every hole in his face. garbage movie that only goes for shock factor. sure, other movies have violence towards women, but this crap took it to another level. theres always some form of revenge at the end during these types of movies, but in this one..
spoiler
the $hole lives.
Mercenary848
Even better spoiler its not real, but don't worry I get the same way i'm still mad Griggs died in COF:4
dude, who cars about griggs. GAZ DIED. And even worse than that (imo) Paul died!!!! :cry:now that i think about it, everyone dies except soap.... and who actually liked him? :|
I'm tired of cool black guys dieing JK sort of, but yeah also it sucked when Paul Died I thought he would get airlifted out.
yeah, they even tease you by letting you control him for a couple minutes, but then, PLOP, you died. Wow, thanks activision. :cry:[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]are you defending Nazi's? GUNpoint_
Nice ad hominem, it just goes to show your losing the argument and trying to change the subject. Where in my posts was I defending the Germans in WW2? I was merely saying that you are ignorant to think that good always triumphs over evil (and for the most part that there is always a good and evil side, when most wars do not embody such things).
Soldiers probably know the least about the war, and also there is no good and bad and there is no right or wrong. They are all objective, what good to someone maybe bad to someonelse
[QUOTE="PrinceofTHEATL"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]are you defending Nazi's? GUNpoint_
didnt do to well in reading comprehension in school did yah or is your 5th grade class there yet?
your mom. No go to bed billy the short bus will be arriving early tommorow morning
[QUOTE="GUNpoint_"][QUOTE="PrinceofTHEATL"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]are you defending Nazi's? PrinceofTHEATL
didnt do to well in reading comprehension in school did yah or is your 5th grade class there yet?
your mom. No go to bed billy the short bus will be arriving early tommorow morning
bu...but tomorrow is sunday.... :|[QUOTE="GUNpoint_"][QUOTE="PrinceofTHEATL"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]are you defending Nazi's? PrinceofTHEATL
didnt do to well in reading comprehension in school did yah or is your 5th grade class there yet?
your mom. No go to bed billy the short bus will be arriving early tommorow morning
I'm too lazy and too drunk to bother reading everyone else's responses, but what did you expect out of one of the founders of this current crop of torture porn in lieu of horror?
I really miss horror movies that actually tried to create unease through acting and plot rather than gross you out by throwing all sorts of fake guts everywhere. Saw and Hostel are two series that provide an excellent example of everything that is wrong with horror movies today and (presumably) everything that is wrong with today's moviegoing audiences. Isn't Wolf Creek by the guy who went on to direct Hostel? Even if he's not they probably slept together or at least shared a hummer or two.
I'm too lazy and too drunk to bother reading everyone else's responses, but what did you expect out of one of the founders of this current crop of torture porn in lieu of horror?
I really miss horror movies that actually tried to create unease through acting and plot rather than gross you out by throwing all sorts of fake guts everywhere. Saw and Hostel are two series that provide an excellent example of everything that is wrong with horror movies today and (presumably) everything that is wrong with today's moviegoing audiences. Isn't Wolf Creek by the guy who went on to direct Hostel? Even if he's not they probably slept together or at least shared a hummer or two.
edit - also, if Wolf Creek bothered you DO NOT watch Chaos. Like, ever.
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]are you defending Nazi's? GUNpoint_
Nice ad hominem, it just goes to show your losing the argument and trying to change the subject. Where in my posts was I defending the Germans in WW2? I was merely saying that you are ignorant to think that good always triumphs over evil (and for the most part that there is always a good and evil side, when most wars do not embody such things).
Another words you don't understand what I am talking about and accept your ignorance.
i thought you were defending Nazi's by calling them strong or something.
yes because calling the German forces as a strong power in WW2 is defending them? :roll:
anyway, i'm no scholar or historian, but i do know right from wrong.
If you did, you would understand that the people who win wars are the ones who decide whats right or wrong.
and i also know that in war, there are heros and there are villains, and there is a good and bad side.
yes and as a soldier regardless of what country yoru fighting for you are the good guys and they are the bad guys.. The germans thought the exact same thing.. The german soldiers were defending their country so this point is utterly wrong and reiduclous.
you have no right to say 'there is no good or evil in war.' are you a soldier?
You want to know how WW1 started? Austria was being consistently attacked by Serbia, so they decided to invade.. This lead into a chain ganging that pitted the Germans, Austrians, ottoman Empire against the Russians, Britians, French, Italians, Americans, etc etc.. Yet by all accounts the Austiran side was more in the right because they were defending themselves and felt that Serbia was a threat (sound familiar to today's war?) anywyas.. When the war ended it was odvious who was in the moral wrong and the "bad guys".. the team that lost because they made it that way.. That has nothing to do with overall morals of the war.. Through out history numerous slaughterings have occured against corrupt regimes.. You seem to be completely ignorant on such things and don't understand that the majority of wars in history when objectively looking at both sides are not good or evil, but a grey in between..
No. if you spent a day in a battlefield, your mind would quickly change. but hey, you read a lot of books, thats a lot better then first hand experience..
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]are you defending Nazi's? GUNpoint_
Nice ad hominem, it just goes to show your losing the argument and trying to change the subject. Where in my posts was I defending the Germans in WW2? I was merely saying that you are ignorant to think that good always triumphs over evil (and for the most part that there is always a good and evil side, when most wars do not embody such things).
Another words you don't understand what I am talking about and accept your ignorance.
i thought you were defending Nazi's by calling them strong or something.
yes because calling the German forces as a strong power in WW2 is defending them? :roll:
anyway, i'm no scholar or historian, but i do know right from wrong.
If you did, you would understand that the people who win wars are the ones who decide whats right or wrong.
and i also know that in war, there are heros and there are villains, and there is a good and bad side.
yes and as a soldier regardless of what country yoru fighting for you are the good guys and they are the bad guys.. The germans thought the exact same thing.. The german soldiers were defending their country so this point is utterly wrong and reiduclous.
you have no right to say 'there is no good or evil in war.' are you a soldier?
You want to know how WW1 started? Austria was being consistently attacked by Serbia, so they decided to invade.. This lead into a chain ganging that pitted the Germans, Austrians, ottoman Empire against the Russians, Britians, French, Italians, Americans, etc etc.. Yet by all accounts the Austiran side was more in the right because they were defending themselves and felt that Serbia was a threat (sound familiar to today's war?) anywyas.. When the war ended it was odvious who was in the moral wrong and the "bad guys".. the team that lost because they made it that way.. That has nothing to do with overall morals of the war.. Through out history numerous slaughterings have occured against corrupt regimes.. You seem to be completely ignorant on such things and don't understand that the majority of wars in history when objectively looking at both sides are not good or evil, but a grey in between..
No. if you spent a day in a battlefield, your mind would quickly change. but hey, you read a lot of books, thats a lot better then first hand experience.
I suppose the Romans were the bad guys when they slaughtered a large quanity of the European population in its conquest.. But I am quite sure the soldiers them selves were not seeing it as that way.
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[QUOTE="PrinceofTHEATL"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"][QUOTE="PrinceofTHEATL"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]are you defending Nazi's? Def_Jef88
didnt do to well in reading comprehension in school did yah or is your 5th grade class there yet?
your mom. No go to bed billy the short bus will be arriving early tommorow morning
bu...but tomorrow is sunday.... :|billy has a special cla ss on reading comprehension on Sundays.....
[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="PrinceofTHEATL"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"][QUOTE="PrinceofTHEATL"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]are you defending Nazi's? PrinceofTHEATL
didnt do to well in reading comprehension in school did yah or is your 5th grade class there yet?
your mom. No go to bed billy the short bus will be arriving early tommorow morning
bu...but tomorrow is sunday.... :|billy has a special cla ss on reading comprehension on Sundays.....
As Billy's mom, I would definitely get my money back if I were you...[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Texas Chainsaw (original) had hardly any blood. No killings were shown on screen.[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Man what ever happened to the good old horror movies like The Thing, Evil Dead series, and the Exorcist... The gore fests like Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Saw, wolf creek etc etc, are not enjoyable in my eyes what so ever.. They are ok to watch once, but after that and I start questioning a persons sanity when it comes to movies like Texas Chainsaw massacre.sSubZerOo
I am talking about the recent rendition of it.. Which was gory as hell.. To me it bothers me that people actually buy this movie like they are gonna watch it on a regular basis.
I haven't seen the remake, though it might be worth renting for the heck of it.yeah it was well made for what it was.. But its not something I would ever watch again.. IN my mind I really question a persons sanity if they watch movies like that like a dozen times over....
I purchased it for $3.00 brand new and have watched it once. I saw it in theaters and thought it was an allright remake, then I was picking up a bunch of horror flicks and for the price it was worth it, same price and a rental. but im not into horror flicks so i'll probably just sell it myself. The only horror series that I could continue to go back to watch multiple times is Halloween.
[QUOTE="GUNpoint_"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]are you defending Nazi's? sSubZerOo
Nice ad hominem, it just goes to show your losing the argument and trying to change the subject. Where in my posts was I defending the Germans in WW2? I was merely saying that you are ignorant to think that good always triumphs over evil (and for the most part that there is always a good and evil side, when most wars do not embody such things).
Another words you don't understand what I am talking about and accept your ignorance.
i thought you were defending Nazi's by calling them strong or something.
yes because calling the German forces as a strong power in WW2 is defending them? :roll:
anyway, i'm no scholar or historian, but i do know right from wrong.
If you did, you would understand that the people who win wars are the ones who decide whats right or wrong.
and i also know that in war, there are heros and there are villains, and there is a good and bad side.
yes and as a soldier regardless of what country yoru fighting for you are the good guys and they are the bad guys.. The germans thought the exact same thing.. The german soldiers were defending their country so this point is utterly wrong and reiduclous.
you have no right to say 'there is no good or evil in war.' are you a soldier?
You want to know how WW1 started? Austria was being consistently attacked by Serbia, so they decided to invade.. This lead into a chain ganging that pitted the Germans, Austrians, ottoman Empire against the Russians, Britians, French, Italians, Americans, etc etc.. Yet by all accounts the Austiran side was more in the right because they were defending themselves and felt that Serbia was a threat (sound familiar to today's war?) anywyas.. When the war ended it was odvious who was in the moral wrong and the "bad guys".. the team that lost because they made it that way.. That has nothing to do with overall morals of the war.. Through out history numerous slaughterings have occured against corrupt regimes.. You seem to be completely ignorant on such things and don't understand that the majority of wars in history when objectively looking at both sides are not good or evil, but a grey in between..
No. if you spent a day in a battlefield, your mind would quickly change. but hey, you read a lot of books, thats a lot better then first hand experience..
[QUOTE="PrinceofTHEATL"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="PrinceofTHEATL"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"][QUOTE="PrinceofTHEATL"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]are you defending Nazi's? Def_Jef88
didnt do to well in reading comprehension in school did yah or is your 5th grade class there yet?
your mom. No go to bed billy the short bus will be arriving early tommorow morning
bu...but tomorrow is sunday.... :|billy has a special cla ss on reading comprehension on Sundays.....
As Billy's mom, I would definitely get my money back if I were you...[QUOTE="Mercenary848"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Mercenary848"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]if you even wanna call it that. such senseless slaughter towards women. i mean what the hell? cutting off a poor girl's fingers then slicing her spine? and it was some stupid fat australian guy too. i wanted to get inside the TV and beat his face until my fists got more swollen then his face and blood seeped from every hole in his face. garbage movie that only goes for shock factor. sure, other movies have violence towards women, but this crap took it to another level. theres always some form of revenge at the end during these types of movies, but in this one..
spoiler
the $hole lives.
Def_Jef88
Even better spoiler its not real, but don't worry I get the same way i'm still mad Griggs died in COF:4
dude, who cars about griggs. GAZ DIED. And even worse than that (imo) Paul died!!!! :cry:now that i think about it, everyone dies except soap.... and who actually liked him? :|
I'm tired of cool black guys dieing JK sort of, but yeah also it sucked when Paul Died I thought he would get airlifted out.
yeah, they even tease you by letting you control him for a couple minutes, but then, PLOP, you died. Wow, thanks activision. :cry:Yeah and when Gaz and Griggs died it just came out of no where. Did activision say " :) alright all of them are about to go home and get drunk and laid after serving their people"
"screw that lets kill them before reinforcements come :twisted: "
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]are you defending Nazi's? GUNpoint_
Nice ad hominem, it just goes to show your losing the argument and trying to change the subject. Where in my posts was I defending the Germans in WW2? I was merely saying that you are ignorant to think that good always triumphs over evil (and for the most part that there is always a good and evil side, when most wars do not embody such things).
Another words you don't understand what I am talking about and accept your ignorance.
i thought you were defending Nazi's by calling them strong or something.
yes because calling the German forces as a strong power in WW2 is defending them? :roll:
anyway, i'm no scholar or historian, but i do know right from wrong.
If you did, you would understand that the people who win wars are the ones who decide whats right or wrong.
and i also know that in war, there are heros and there are villains, and there is a good and bad side.
yes and as a soldier regardless of what country yoru fighting for you are the good guys and they are the bad guys.. The germans thought the exact same thing.. The german soldiers were defending their country so this point is utterly wrong and reiduclous.
you have no right to say 'there is no good or evil in war.' are you a soldier?
You want to know how WW1 started? Austria was being consistently attacked by Serbia, so they decided to invade.. This lead into a chain ganging that pitted the Germans, Austrians, ottoman Empire against the Russians, Britians, French, Italians, Americans, etc etc.. Yet by all accounts the Austiran side was more in the right because they were defending themselves and felt that Serbia was a threat (sound familiar to today's war?) anywyas.. When the war ended it was odvious who was in the moral wrong and the "bad guys".. the team that lost because they made it that way.. That has nothing to do with overall morals of the war.. Through out history numerous slaughterings have occured against corrupt regimes.. You seem to be completely ignorant on such things and don't understand that the majority of wars in history when objectively looking at both sides are not good or evil, but a grey in between..
No. if you spent a day in a battlefield, your mind would quickly change. but hey, you read a lot of books, thats a lot better then first hand experience..
No one is argueing that the nazi's were not evil.. I don't understand how your reading comprehension could have picked that up.. I am pointing out that good vs evil on the objectively across wars, usaully does not exist and does not catter to one side in victory more then the other.. PoV has nothing to do with it, you quite clearly said that good always conquerors evil, then gave the definition of Nazi's as a evil regime.. Most would agree with this universally.. But when taken universally objective (not soldiers pov seeing as who your facing are bad guys and your the good guys) the more morally just civilizations lose alot against the more brutal civilizations..
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]are you defending Nazi's? GUNpoint_
Nice ad hominem, it just goes to show your losing the argument and trying to change the subject. Where in my posts was I defending the Germans in WW2? I was merely saying that you are ignorant to think that good always triumphs over evil (and for the most part that there is always a good and evil side, when most wars do not embody such things).
Another words you don't understand what I am talking about and accept your ignorance.
i thought you were defending Nazi's by calling them strong or something.
yes because calling the German forces as a strong power in WW2 is defending them? :roll:
anyway, i'm no scholar or historian, but i do know right from wrong.
If you did, you would understand that the people who win wars are the ones who decide whats right or wrong.
and i also know that in war, there are heros and there are villains, and there is a good and bad side.
yes and as a soldier regardless of what country yoru fighting for you are the good guys and they are the bad guys.. The germans thought the exact same thing.. The german soldiers were defending their country so this point is utterly wrong and reiduclous.
you have no right to say 'there is no good or evil in war.' are you a soldier?
You want to know how WW1 started? Austria was being consistently attacked by Serbia, so they decided to invade.. This lead into a chain ganging that pitted the Germans, Austrians, ottoman Empire against the Russians, Britians, French, Italians, Americans, etc etc.. Yet by all accounts the Austiran side was more in the right because they were defending themselves and felt that Serbia was a threat (sound familiar to today's war?) anywyas.. When the war ended it was odvious who was in the moral wrong and the "bad guys".. the team that lost because they made it that way.. That has nothing to do with overall morals of the war.. Through out history numerous slaughterings have occured against corrupt regimes.. You seem to be completely ignorant on such things and don't understand that the majority of wars in history when objectively looking at both sides are not good or evil, but a grey in between..
No. if you spent a day in a battlefield, your mind would quickly change. but hey, you read a lot of books, thats a lot better then first hand experience..
No one is argueing that the nazi's were not evil.. I don't understand how your reading comprehension could have picked that up.. I am pointing out that good vs evil on the objectively across wars, usaully does not exist and does not catter to one side in victory more then the other.. PoV has nothing to do with it, you quite clearly said that good always conquerors evil, then gave the definition of Nazi's as a evil regime.. Most would agree with this universally.. But when taken universally objective (not soldiers pov seeing as who your facing are bad guys and your the good guys) the more morally just civilizations lose alot against the more brutal civilizations.. Infact most wars were due to religion, economics, or power in human history, no good intentions what so ever.
[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Mercenary848"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Mercenary848"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]if you even wanna call it that. such senseless slaughter towards women. i mean what the hell? cutting off a poor girl's fingers then slicing her spine? and it was some stupid fat australian guy too. i wanted to get inside the TV and beat his face until my fists got more swollen then his face and blood seeped from every hole in his face. garbage movie that only goes for shock factor. sure, other movies have violence towards women, but this crap took it to another level. theres always some form of revenge at the end during these types of movies, but in this one..
spoiler
the $hole lives.
Mercenary848
Even better spoiler its not real, but don't worry I get the same way i'm still mad Griggs died in COF:4
dude, who cars about griggs. GAZ DIED. And even worse than that (imo) Paul died!!!! :cry:now that i think about it, everyone dies except soap.... and who actually liked him? :|
I'm tired of cool black guys dieing JK sort of, but yeah also it sucked when Paul Died I thought he would get airlifted out.
yeah, they even tease you by letting you control him for a couple minutes, but then, PLOP, you died. Wow, thanks activision. :cry:Yeah and when Gaz and Griggs died it just came out of no where. Did activision say " :) alright all of them are about to go home and get drunk and laid after serving their people"
"screw that lets kill them before reinforcements come :twisted: "
It did make the ending "standoff" more satisfying though. I shot the right guard in the head, then the left, and right as zahkeav was about to finish turning around and shoot me, BAMN one right in the dome mother****er. Dont mess with the SAS *****es! :PPlease Log In to post.
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