Woman drives wrong way, kills 8 had high levels of MARIJUANA

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#301 andyboiii
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ok driving high does not have the same effect as driving drunk. The problem was mixing the two alcohol and weed which was the problem. I'm not saying it's ok to drive high but the effects of being drunk is far worse
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#302 LJS9502_basic
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ok driving high does not have the same effect as driving drunk. The problem was mixing the two alcohol and weed which was the problem. I'm not saying it's ok to drive high but the effects of being drunk is far worseandyboiii
Eh....I think neither should be done. The fact that both create a risk for accident...and oftentimes someone else suffers...is enough to say they are comparable in the possibility.

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#303 PetJel
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Well of course, the aclohol also had something to do with it

Tjeremiah1988

Well of course, the aclohol also had something to do with it

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#304 needled24-7
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Driving under the influence of alchol is bad, driving under the inlfuence of marijuana is bad. It's less dangerous to drive high than it is to drive drunk, but it's still not good. Weed should be legalized or at least decriminalized.

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#305 theharlemshake
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[QUOTE="theharlemshake"] It is illegal to drink and drive, so what exactly is your point?LJS9502_basic

It's also illegal to be under the influence of drugs and drive....;)

I assume the topic creator knew that, or they wouldn't have been trying to blame Marijuana. I felt I had to point out no matter the influence (alcohol, marijuana) the driver would have been in the wrong and blaming it on solely the marijuana (or putting an emphasis on it) is useless.
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#306 ramjam23
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Yes I do, i love pot, i just think they should tax it and add the same laws they have for drinking.

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#307 theone86
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Every time I've defended cannabis I've mentioned that there is no traffic incident I have ever heard of where someone killed another person under the influence of JUST cannabis, and this story is no different. It proves absolutely nothing, since we know that alcohol alone can cause the type of behavior this person exhibited. Until you actually do tests thtat are conducted objectively on a closed course with weed and do them in a scientific manner you're not going to have anything conclusive on how being under the influence of cannabis affects your driving. Besides, how ridiculous is your logic here, someone was drunk and high and you say that cannabis should be outlawed but not alcohol?

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#308 hamstergeddon
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Note, for the purpose of marijuana legalization, marijuana opponents must prove that marijuana is actually WORSE than alcohol. Of course if taken in large quantities it can have negative side effects, but so can any other legal drug, like alcohol, nicotine, sleeping pills, old medicine an' sich. The fact that marijuana has SOME bad side effects is no reason to keep it illegal, seeing as many legal drugs have equal or worse side effects.
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#309 Sword-Demon
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if weed was legal it would have restrictions, just like alchohol does. but that obviously wouldnt have stopped her, seeing that she was also drunk

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#310 needled24-7
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This ho obviously didn't have enough marijuana in her, if she was baked enough, she wouldn't have been able to move, much less drive a car.

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#311 Deathxcore
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It was the alcohol, what else is new? Drunk bastards have been killing kids since who knows when. But I drive after smoking and I'm a BETTER driver. And that's the case for every single person I've ever asked, and that's a lot of smokers.
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#312 feryl06
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Wish these pro-marijuana legalization people would stop saying that there's never been a death attributed to smoking it---there's not only this case, but there are others. Yes, alcohol was a factor, but please don't tell me that the pot wasn't big factor as well....

So it turns out that the incident that occurred last week where a woman drove the wrong way of the road going at high speeds was not only drunk but had high levels of marijuana in her system. But this leads me to this question. Do weed supports still agree to make weed legal for all to consume? Well of course, the aclohol also had something to do with it, but in every thread debating marijuana, the defence was that it does not alter the mind in anyway and is infact harmful. After hearing this news that a woman was driving the wrong way with high levels of weed in her system, do you still support legalizing marijuana?

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/new_york_state/090804_Report_Taconic_Crash_Driver_Drunk

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#313 theone86
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Wish these pro-marijuana legalization people would stop saying that there's never been a death attributed to smoking it---there's not only this case, but there are others. Yes, alcohol was a factor, but please don't tell me that the pot wasn't big factor as well.... [QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]

So it turns out that the incident that occurred last week where a woman drove the wrong way of the road going at high speeds was not only drunk but had high levels of marijuana in her system. But this leads me to this question. Do weed supports still agree to make weed legal for all to consume? Well of course, the aclohol also had something to do with it, but in every thread debating marijuana, the defence was that it does not alter the mind in anyway and is infact harmful. After hearing this news that a woman was driving the wrong way with high levels of weed in her system, do you still support legalizing marijuana?

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/new_york_state/090804_Report_Taconic_Crash_Driver_Drunk

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Alcohol has been proven to negatively affect your driving, cannabis has not. All this story proves is flawed logic. She was driving recklessly and she had cannabis in her system, therefore it must have been the cannabis that caused the accident, right? So I suppose if someone gets drunk of rum and cokes and kills someone driving then the caffeine in their system also caused the accident, correct? Besides, no one's encouraging the use of cannabis, we simply say that alcohol, a drug which is widely used and socially accepted, causes thousands of driving accidents a year while cannabis, a drug which has not ever been proven to be the MAJOR CAUSE of a driving accident, is seen in such a negative light by contrast.

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#314 bsman00
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So it turns out that the incident that occurred last week where a woman drove the wrong way of the road going at high speeds was not only drunk but had high levels of marijuana in her system. But this leads me to this question. Do weed supports still agree to make weed legal for all to consume? Well of course, the aclohol also had something to do with it, but in every thread debating marijuana, the defence was that it does not alter the mind in anyway and is infact harmful. After hearing this news that a woman was driving the wrong way with high levels of weed in her system, do you still support legalizing marijuana?

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/new_york_state/090804_Report_Taconic_Crash_Driver_Drunk

Tjeremiah1988

Yes... one accident doesn't mean anything.. i have yet to see a report were someone was just high and died.... not one... why? Because when your stoned your paranoid and it makes you drive better....

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#315 ur1ne__samp1e
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So it turns out that the incident that occurred last week where a woman drove the wrong way of the road going at high speeds was not only drunk but had high levels of marijuana in her system. But this leads me to this question. Do weed supports still agree to make weed legal for all to consume? Well of course, the aclohol also had something to do with it, but in every thread debating marijuana, the defence was that it does not alter the mind in anyway and is infact harmful. After hearing this news that a woman was driving the wrong way with high levels of weed in her system, do you still support legalizing marijuana?

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/new_york_state/090804_Report_Taconic_Crash_Driver_Drunk

Tjeremiah1988
Yes, I still support the legalization of it. People do stupid things, and most likely,not that I'm trying to excuse weed, but it was probably consumed after her intoxication with the alcohol which would further impair her judgement. It didn't 'alter' her mind, she just shouldnt've been behind the wheel if someone were to have noticed how impaired she was. About a year ago a friend of mine told me that another friend of his whom I don't know recently got sent to jail for 10 years for involuntary manslaughter/homicide. He said his friend who never drinks, smokes, snorts, injects etc., all of a sudden decided to have a few cold ones with his crew for the sake catching a buzz at some bachelor party. On his way home, he jumped on the OFF=RAMP of the expressway and since all the lights were facing him from the incoming traffic, he had a seizure and smashed some people. When he came back to conciouness at the hospital, he was made aware that he had crashed into a certain amount of cars killing 6. Should we put alcohol back on the prohibition list?
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#316 feryl06
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yes, I am 100% sure that the marijuana had no effect on her whatsoever. :P Whatever helps you rationalize your behavior. :)

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#317 jakethesnake159
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Female drivers!!!! :P

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what does that have to do with anything.

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#318 MuddVader
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Marijuana dulls the senses as far as I know so anyone claiming it does nothing to alter the mind is BSing =P, but anyways, She shouldnt have been driving under the influence of anything, whether it be Alcohol or Marijuana, PERIOD.
This doesnt hurt the legalize marijuana cause at all if you ask me because if they did legalize it, it would probably have many of the samelaws connected to it as Alcohol does.

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#319 nicknees93
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Lmfao, fail. She was drunk driving. Sure, the weed didn't help, but the alcohol was definitely the main factor. If you don't like weed, don't use it. Kcool cya.
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#320 th3warr1or
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Guys guys, this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with being drunk or high.. Female drivers kill people on a regularly basis by driving in the wrong direction.
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#321 kidcool189
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are you kidding me? all they knew was that weed was in her system.... for all we know it could of been a little spliff from a couple weeks ago still in her system, they dont know for sure if she was high or not at the tie of the incident, but apparently they do know she was drunk at the time, and that alone is generally the only reason you can make a case of blame for...
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#322 BumFluff122
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if she was drunk why are you only blaming the weed?

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#323 MuddVader
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if she was drunk why are you only blaming the weed?

BumFluff122
Because they are 'against legalizing marijuana' and want to make it seem like the presence of marijuana could possibly have an effect over the fact that she was wasted =P
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#324 BumFluff122
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

if she was drunk why are you only blaming the weed?

MuddVader

Because they are 'against legalizing marijuana' and want to make it seem like the presence of marijuana could possibly have an effect over the fact that she was wasted =P

Sounds a bit biased to me. Though I could be wrong. I mean it's obvious weed has a much greater effect on driving skills than alchohol.

Seriously though, alchohol is far worse than weed. Perhaps we should make alchohol illegal and make weed legal. I am pretty sure there would be a lot less violence in the world.

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#325 bobaban
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[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]

Well of course, the aclohol also had something to do with it

PetJel

Well of course, the aclohol also had something to do with it

Tjeremiah1988

/thread

I'm surprised this got to 16 pages.

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#326 DabsTight703
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It's hard convincing people that marijuana is harmless if they themselves have never experienced the effects. I can bet you 100% the alcohol was the reason she was driving like an idiot. That and, come on... it's a woman.
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#327 Papitar
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Using this as an argument against marihuana would be ridiculous.

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#328 Dogswithguns
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Man, I feel bad for the kids who got killed. she should have known better to driving drunk and high. but it's too late to do anything about it....
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#329 DivergeUnify
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No, this changed my mind. Make it illegal and hang all those caught possessing it
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#330 Bloodseeker23
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Female driver+ High? Can't get any worser than that... ~_~
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#331 nintendofreak_2
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First of all, if marijuana was legalized the only real difference is that the people who normally smoke would be doing it public instead of a more private location.

On the topic of the crash, most people are going to blame it on the alcohol.

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#332 DivergeUnify
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First of all, if marijuana was legalized the only real difference is that the people who normally smoke would be doing it public instead of a more private location.

On the topic of the crash, most people are going to blame it on the alcohol.

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Yes, because alcohol's intoxicating effects are known to be much worse than weed.
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[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]

So it turns out that the incident that occurred last week where a woman drove the wrong way of the road going at high speeds was not only drunk but had high levels of marijuana in her system. But this leads me to this question. Do weed supports still agree to make weed legal for all to consume? Well of course, the aclohol also had something to do with it, but in every thread debating marijuana, the defence was that it does not alter the mind in anyway and is infact harmful. After hearing this news that a woman was driving the wrong way with high levels of weed in her system, do you still support legalizing marijuana?

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/new_york_state/090804_Report_Taconic_Crash_Driver_Drunk

bsman00

Yes... one accident doesn't mean anything.. i have yet to see a report were someone was just high and died.... not one... why? Because when your stoned your paranoid and it makes you drive better....

If you were high and driving your driving would be worse and youd probably crash.

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#334 nintendofreak_2
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If you were high and driving your driving would be worse and youd probably crash.

Hungry_Jello

Drugs affect everybody differently. There's no set-in-stone reaction to smoking. Some people might be better drivers, others might not be.

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#335 weezyfb
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she was twice the legal limit in alchohal.... as well.
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#336 drumbreak1
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Female drivers!!!! :P

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lol if i would've said that i would've gotten modded before i hit the enter key

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#337 knucks91
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Well the bottom line is, she should not have been behind the wheel with alcohol in the first place.

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#338 bobaban
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[QUOTE="sonicare"]

Female drivers!!!! :P

drumbreak1

lol if i would've said that i would've gotten modded before i hit the enter key

I wanted to say the same thing
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#339 jakethesnake159
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Guys guys, this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with being drunk or high.. Female drivers kill people on a regularly basis by driving in the wrong direction. th3warr1or

o well i guess that this topic is way off topic than.

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#340 needled24-7
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[QUOTE="bsman00"]

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]

So it turns out that the incident that occurred last week where a woman drove the wrong way of the road going at high speeds was not only drunk but had high levels of marijuana in her system. But this leads me to this question. Do weed supports still agree to make weed legal for all to consume? Well of course, the aclohol also had something to do with it, but in every thread debating marijuana, the defence was that it does not alter the mind in anyway and is infact harmful. After hearing this news that a woman was driving the wrong way with high levels of weed in her system, do you still support legalizing marijuana?

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/new_york_state/090804_Report_Taconic_Crash_Driver_Drunk

Hungry_Jello

Yes... one accident doesn't mean anything.. i have yet to see a report were someone was just high and died.... not one... why? Because when your stoned your paranoid and it makes you drive better....

If you were high and driving your driving would be worse and youd probably crash.

have you ever driven while under the influence of marijuana