I don't think CVS should be held liable for thiswhipassmt
They are. What your employees do while on the clock falls back on you.
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Agreed. I doubt she sees a cent though beyond maybe a store gift card. Yeah. Will probably be settled outside of court somehow.I'm not sure how I feel about the employee being fired (if he gets fired). While where I work, one would almost certainly be fired for such an offense (though a funny one), I'm not sure I'd agree with it.[QUOTE="MrPraline"]The company is liable. But the woman is a c*nt. F*ck off with your million dollar lawsuits. It's people like you that make the justice system an absolute f*cking joke.MrPraline
[QUOTE="muffincakes87"]If you're hurt you ask for an apology -- you don't waste time and resources suing.A million dollars is excessive, but the fact that people are blowing this off as nothing and saying she should ignore the racism is ridiculous. If I were CVS, I would fire the employee.
Fightingfan
Why didn't the employee ask what her first name was or ask what name she wanted on the reciept? How hard would have that been? Instead the employee went out of their way to use a racial slur. I worked in fast food and work at a hospital now. If I called a customer or a patient(of any race) a racial slur, I know I would be fired. Not a good image for the business. Also, I have applied at CVS before. I know you have to take a test on a code of conduct, and calling a patient a racial slurr must break one of those codes. This employee was obviously not thinking and broke their code of conduct so he or she should be fired.
To be clear, I'm not defending her for making this into a huge money grab.
[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]People can't take a joke anymore. Diablo-BSeriously. Demanding the employee be fired is a bit much. People who work at CVS dont make s*** I regularly go to my local CVS to buy snacks that I could get at a store closer to my house just so I can see the employees. At my local CVS is this guy in his late 30s. Man is he depressed looking. I think he is the assistant manger and sometimes works the register. You can tell that he hates his job, hates his life, hates the customers, and I take great pleasure walking in without a care in the world and forcing him to provide me excellent customer service while he scowls with a gray cloud over his head.The hell...
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Where was the racism? There was only a stereotypical name.
Pirate700
It's a racist term that comes in the form of a name.
No, it is not racist at all. The word "racist" has completely lost all meaning in this country...I don't know if you're really that cluesses, but calling Asian people "ching chong" can seem really offensive. I wouldn't go around calling random Asian people "ching chong" unless you really want to start a scuffle.
then what is racism?[QUOTE="AcidThunder"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]That's not what racism is but go ahead and ignore me if you wish.
Pirate700
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None of that involves calling someone a joke name.
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You'd have to have an irrational hatred of someone's race to call them a racially demeaning name.
mhmCompanies get held liable for the actions of their employees all the time. The clerk is a moron and should be fired.
airshocker
Sounds to be like it was used as slur. Not the kind of person you want working for and representing your company. Â Either way, I don't feel to happy about someone getting a million dollars because someone called them a name. That's insane. She should get a gift-bag and some vouchers at best.
Actually, come to think of it, the dictionary argument is flawed.
Taken from the definition of racism:
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
 Taken from the definition of epithet:Â
2. An abusive or contemptuous word or phrase.Â
A racial epithet, given the italicized, refers to race. Going by definition, it is an abusive or contemptuous word or phrase based on race.Â
Taken from the definition of intolerance:Â
1. lack of toleration; unwillingness or refusal to tolerate or respect contrary opinions or beliefs, persons of different races or backgrounds, etc.Â
Given that contempt implies a lack of tolerance, a racial epithet professes intolerance, thus its nature at being direct at race makes it intolerance of another race or races, thus meaning that a racial epithet fits within the definition of racism.Â
There you have it.
This is absurd. There is absolutely no reason for CVS to be sued. Freedom of speech means a right to make jokes about race, regardless of who they offend. At most the guy should just be fired/reprimanded by CVS as a PR move. This lawsuit is immoral.LaihendiYour logic is very flawed... 1. you say anyone can make race jokes 2. you say he should be punished for making a race joke Thats a contradiction... Also freedom of speech applies people not corporations... that's why she isn't suing him...
[QUOTE="Laihendi"]This is absurd. There is absolutely no reason for CVS to be sued. Freedom of speech means a right to make jokes about race, regardless of who they offend. At most the guy should just be fired/reprimanded by CVS as a PR move. This lawsuit is immoral.worlock77
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences of speech.
If the government facilitates and enforces restrictions of speech, then that is a violation of freedom of speech. That is not a consequence of speech, that is a consequence of a government that does not respect its constitution.A "woman of Korean descent" named Hyun Lee is suing CVS in federal court (as a discrimination lawsuit) for a million dollars after receiving a receipt from a clerk that identified her as "Ching Chong Lee". Lee is offended, and she complained to CVS customer relations about this, customer relations told her that the employee would be "counseled and trained" but Lee's attorney says that that is not enough, her and Lee demand that the worker be fired.
What do you guys think?
I don't think CVS should be held liable for this, it's not their fault that the employee allegedly used a slur against Lee (maybe the clerk actually thought it was her name). Also I think it's a bit out of line for Lee and her attorney to "demand" that hte worker be fired.
Agreed. I doubt she sees a cent though beyond maybe a store gift card. Yeah. Will probably be settled outside of court somehow.[QUOTE="MrPraline"]The company is liable. But the woman is a c*nt. F*ck off with your million dollar lawsuits. It's people like you that make the justice system an absolute f*cking joke.Pirate700
Yeah. Will probably be settled outside of court somehow.I'm not sure how I feel about the employee being fired (if he gets fired). While where I work, one would almost certainly be fired for such an offense (though a funny one), I'm not sure I'd agree with it. I would imagine there's a pretty strict company policy on these sort of things (to avoid million dollar lawsuits like this), but I'm not sure how I feel personally either. He will probably be sacrificed now that the story has hit the major media, though.[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Agreed. I doubt she sees a cent though beyond maybe a store gift card.
Pirate700
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]I'm not sure how I feel about the employee being fired (if he gets fired). While where I work, one would almost certainly be fired for such an offense (though a funny one), I'm not sure I'd agree with it. I would imagine there's a pretty strict company policy on these sort of things (to avoid million dollar lawsuits like this), but I'm not sure how I feel personally either. He will probably be sacrificed now that the story has hit the major media, though.Agreed. If firing the guy will shut the lady up, it will probably be done.[QUOTE="MrPraline"] Yeah. Will probably be settled outside of court somehow.MrPraline
A million dollars is excessive, but the fact that people are blowing this off as nothing and saying she should ignore the racism is ridiculous. If I were CVS, I would fire the employee.
I'm not blowing it off, but my contempt for her attempted money grab is overshadowing any sympathy I would've had otherwise.A million dollars is excessive, but the fact that people are blowing this off as nothing and saying she should ignore the racism is ridiculous. If I were CVS, I would fire the employee.
muffincakes87
If you're hurt you ask for an apology -- you don't waste time and resources suing.A million dollars is excessive, but the fact that people are blowing this off as nothing and saying she should ignore the racism is ridiculous. If I were CVS, I would fire the employee.
muffincakes87
[QUOTE="muffincakes87"]I'm not blowing it off, but my contempt for her attempted money grab is overshadowing any sympathy I would've had otherwise.Don't hate the player hate the game broA million dollars is excessive, but the fact that people are blowing this off as nothing and saying she should ignore the racism is ridiculous. If I were CVS, I would fire the employee.
MrPraline
Companies get held liable for the actions of their employees all the time. The clerk is a moron and should be fired.
Lol, people will soon sue the weather man for dry cleaning bills because he forecasted sunny weather that turned out to be a stormy day. Ching Chong Lee is jokes though.
Where was the racism? There was only a stereotypical name.[QUOTE="muffincakes87"]
A million dollars is excessive, but the fact that people are blowing this off as nothing and saying she should ignore the racism is ridiculous. If I were CVS, I would fire the employee.
Pirate700
It's a racist term that comes in the form of a name.
Where was the racism? There was only a stereotypical name.[QUOTE="Pirate700"]
[QUOTE="muffincakes87"]
A million dollars is excessive, but the fact that people are blowing this off as nothing and saying she should ignore the racism is ridiculous. If I were CVS, I would fire the employee.
THE_DRUGGIE
It's a racist term that comes in the form of a name.
No, it is not racist at all. The word "racist" has completely lost all meaning in this country...[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Where was the racism? There was only a stereotypical name.
Pirate700
It's a racist term that comes in the form of a name.
No, it is not racist at all. The word "racist" has completely lost all meaning in this country...Well I wouldn't call random asian people "Ching Chong."
No, it is not racist at all. The word "racist" has completely lost all meaning in this country...[QUOTE="Pirate700"]
[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]
It's a racist term that comes in the form of a name.
THE_DRUGGIE
Well I wouldn't call random asian people "Ching Chong."
Neither would I but it's not racist.[QUOTE="Pirate700"]The word "racist" has completely lost all meaning in this country... MrPralineYeah, It has here too. In this country you are "racist" (=race) for criticising a certain peaceful religion (=not race).The situation isn't any better here. Trust me.
[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]People can't take a joke anymore. mems_1224Seriously. Demanding the employee be fired is a bit much. People who work at CVS dont make s*** I regularly go to my local CVS to buy snacks that I could get at a store closer to my house just so I can see the employees. At my local CVS is this guy in his late 30s. Man is he depressed looking. I think he is the assistant manger and sometimes works the register. You can tell that he hates his job, hates his life, hates the customers, and I take great pleasure walking in without a care in the world and forcing him to provide me excellent customer service while he scowls with a gray cloud over his head.
[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]No, it is not racist at all. The word "racist" has completely lost all meaning in this country...
Pirate700
Well I wouldn't call random asian people "Ching Chong."
Neither would I but it's not racist.I think it's actually a generalizing term from the late 1800s to refer to Chinese rail workers.
Neither would I but it's not racist.[QUOTE="Pirate700"]
[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]
Well I wouldn't call random asian people "Ching Chong."
THE_DRUGGIE
I think it's actually a generalizing term from the late 1800s to refer to Chinese rail workers.
No it's not. It's just a stereotypical name. It's no different than if an Asian person calls a white person "Joe".Please Log In to post.
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